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德媒:印度为何求购德国潜艇

Why India wants German submarines | DW News

德国之声新闻:印度为何求购德国潜艇

India plans an $8B submarine deal with Germany under Project‑75(I): German-designed Type 214 subs, built in India. This examines the geopolitical stakes—rising tensions with China and Pakistan, India’s push for self-reliance, and Germany’s strategy in the Indo-Pacific. It’s more than weapons—it's about power, technology transfer, and new security ties.

印度计划通过75(I)项目,与德国签署一份价值80亿美元的潜艇采购协议:引进德国设计的214型潜艇,并在印度本土完成建造。

背后的地缘政治博弈:印中、印巴之间紧张局势持续升级、印度推进国防自主化的诉求,以及德国在印太地区的布局。

这笔交易不只是单纯的军购,更关乎地区话语权、技术转让,以及全新的安全合作关系。

以下是各国网友的评论:

whysoserious7553
Last time indian navy went to war a new country was born

印度海军上次参与战争之后,直接催生了一个全新国家

gauravrawat-eo7bo
This time is different.

这次不一样了

saifullahghaffar
But this time India will split into four countries and We will allow one to remain free

但这一回印度会四分五裂,我们只会让其中一小块地方维持独立

 

SB_0x89
Bit of fact-check on India's submarine fleet, only about 35% of it is Russian/Soviet origin.
Russia / Soviet Union : Sindhughosh/Kilo-class; 7 in total, forms the older backbone of the conventional fleet.

France : Kalvari/Scorpene-class; 6 ; built locally under technology transfer at Mazagon Dock (MDL).

Germany : Shishumar/Type 209-class; 4 ; German Type 209/1500 design;

India : Arihant-class; 3; Nuclear Ballistic Missile (SSBN)

我们客观盘点下印度潜艇部队,俄/苏系潜艇只占总数的35%左右。

俄/苏:辛杜戈什级(基洛级)共7艘,是常规潜艇部队的老旧主力;

法国:卡尔瓦里级(鲉鱼级)共6艘,通过技术转让在马扎冈船坞本土建造;

德国:西舒玛级(209型)共4艘,采用德国209/1500型设计;

印度自研:歼敌者级共3艘,属于搭载弹道导弹的战略核潜艇。

 

Lets_Be_Real_UK
This is a good start for Germany to manufacture defense equipments in India. We need to wean Germany off the China addiction in other sectors as well.

德国在印度建厂造军备是个不错的开端。我们还得想办法让德国在其他行业摆脱对中国市场的依赖。

 

arandomguy8978
First of all, Germany have nothing to give to India in defense. Maybe some components at max.
Even take of this submarine, India is purchasing it because it's requirement is big and need faster. India is already building it's own submarine, but the issue is, to make a submarine from scratch, you need many design reviews and test and all such stuffs, which takes few years. Importing it will bypass those years.
I think about the same time P76 also start giving submarines, Indian design and developed.

首先,德国在军工领域拿不出多少核心技术给印度,最多只能供应部分零部件。

就拿这次采购潜艇来说,印度只是需求缺口大、等不起才外购。印度其实已经在自研潜艇,但从零造潜艇要反复审核设计、开展各类测试,耗时好几年。直接引进就能省去漫长研发周期。

等P76项目投产,印度自研自产的潜艇也会同步交付。

 

Lalringhleni
From my perspective,,, Germany can rely on India in any way possible or outcome

在我看来,无论后续局势如何发展,德国都能放心和印度深度合作。

 

varun2250
No one country can rely on any other in this post Trump world.

特朗普时代过后,如今没有任何一个国家能完全信任别国。

 

avinashtyagi2
India isn't for Europe, India is for India

印度不会依附欧洲,印度一切只为自身利益。

 

souravjaiswal-jr4bj
German u boat sunk 2778 ships in ww2. Impressive track record.

二战时期德国U型潜艇击沉过2778艘舰船,战绩十分亮眼。

Mmjk_12
And 70% of all German u-boats made in ww2 were destroyed. Not an impressive track record

但二战造出来的德国潜艇,七成最后都被击毁了,谈不上多厉害。

BBme
@Mmjk_12 only 1 UK warship sunk many german destroyers in 1 go during ww2, lol. europe always said all US weapons are far superior than theirs but it is proven to be less effective in ukraine. so now u know what is rafale and german toy subs and boats

 二战时英国单艘军舰一次就能击沉多艘德国驱逐舰,好笑吧。欧洲总吹嘘自家武器比美国强,可俄乌战场已经证明欧美装备实战效果一般。这下你该明白阵风战机、德国潜艇到底是什么水平了。

 

Ducimus07
And because of the that, anti-submarine warfare advanced exponentially since the Second World War.

也正因当年潜艇战惨烈,二战之后全球反潜技术实现跨越式发展。

 

Aladdin-z4o
Chinese made Hangors gonna sink yours if they try new adventures near Pakistan waters

印度要是敢在巴基斯坦近海挑事,中国造的汉果级潜艇能直接击沉印方舰艇。

Kidderman2210
@Aladdin-z4o China's birth rate is collapsing. Soon, it will be a nation of old people with no interest in its future.

中国出生率暴跌,再过几十年就会全面老龄化,根本没精力谋划对外行动。

 

DannyM-v4d
India have nuclear powered submarine that can launch nukes ( only 5 other countries got it not even Germany ) Why the Indians not moving in nuclear direction instead of German diesel submarines. ?

印度明明拥有可发射核弹的战略核潜艇,全球仅五个国家掌握该技术,德国都没有。为什么印度还要采购德国常规柴电潜艇,不全力发展核潜艇?

 

rext8949
India's bridges and flyovers,roads ,footpaths are collapsing . They cannot hold NEET,CBSE exams . Still waiting for Tejas aircraft to fly . Bullet train from Japan . Vande Bharat engine from Austria .

印度国内桥梁、高架、马路、人行道频繁坍塌;全国统考频繁泄题;光辉战机迟迟达不到量产标准;高铁技术靠日本引进;本土快速列车的发动机还要从奥地利进口。

 

LuisVillanuevaCubero
Good for India and Germany. NATO countries need to further military ties with India.

这笔合作对印德两国双赢。北约各国都该加深和印度的军事合作。

 

chawares26
We Indian want to make next "Japan"

我们印度人希望本国能发展成下一个日本。

 

KrishnaPratapMalik
India is capable of making ships & Submarines on a larger scale, but we do need technology and trustworthy Partners; such deals may also help India ensure safer ship through critical routes like the Strait of Hormuz or the Red Sea, which is good for all

印度具备大规模建造军舰、潜艇的工业基础,只是缺少核心技术和靠谱合作伙伴。这类军购协议,也能帮助印度守护霍尔木兹海峡、红海等关键海运航道,惠及全球航运。

rext8949
Flyover is collapsing,CBSE,NEET is leaking

印度高架频频坍塌,全国升学考试还总出现试卷泄露问题。

Saksham_Bharat_Ratna
@rext8949 flyovers collapsing even in china and Germany, south korea. What's ur point?

 中国、德国、韩国也有桥梁坍塌事故,你拿这点说事有什么意义?

 

marteveryday1606
In reality it is India vs China not USA vs China what people think, Pakistan 70-90% latest weapons are Chinese made.
So it is literally China vs India. USA will only talk but always fear direct war with China because it would hurt their dominance image.
Everyone thought Russia would reclaim Ukraine within days but here we are now.

很多人以为中美博弈才是主线,实则核心对抗是中印。巴基斯坦70%至90%的新式武器均来自中国,说白了就是中印两国直接对峙。美国只会口头施压,不敢和中国正面开战,害怕动摇自身全球霸主地位。当初所有人都觉得俄军几天就能拿下乌克兰,现实却截然相反。

 

Sevenofnine86
I think trade is two ways thing , not only Indians trade depends of Indian Oceans but also 80% of global trade pass through this Ocean, so basically india is trying to protect global maritime order.

贸易往来是双向的。不光印度的商贸依赖印度洋,全球八成贸易航线都途经这片海域,印度发展海军本质是维护全球海上贸易秩序。

 

JLindsay-v8v
Win-win for both partners.

印德双方各取所需,实现双赢。

 

RoyRoy-g5n
India is looking for a long-term relationship and commitment and not the one night stand.
So far, both Israel and Russia are in. Hopefully, the Germans would be in it as well.

印度寻求长期稳定的战略合作,而非短期一次性交易。目前以色列、俄罗斯都和印度建立了深度合作,希望德国也能加入。

 

leemarkley8496
This is the kind of submarine that Australia needs. End the nuclear sub deal with the US and UK, who cannot even build their own ships ! Australia could rapidly make a deal to build these submarines in Australia. Exactly what Australia needs.

这款潜艇才是澳大利亚真正需要的。澳方应当终止和美英的核潜艇合作,美英连自家军舰都造不利索!澳大利亚完全可以快速引进德国潜艇技术本土建造,刚好适配本国需求。

 

ORBIS-v7c
Yeah german technology is very good. You know subash Chandra Bose actually travelled by a German u boat during ww2 from Germany to indian Ocean after meeting their LEADER.

德国军工技术确实过硬。二战时期,苏巴斯·钱德拉·鲍斯会见德国高层后,就是搭乘德国U型潜艇从德国前往印度洋。

 

avidm-g1b
Do you know that there are more statues and memorials to Bose across India than to any other Independence leader, including Ghandi?

你知道吗?全印度纪念鲍斯的雕像、纪念碑数量,比包括甘地在内所有独立运动领袖都要多。

 

ebcho1
I think Malaysia should alternatively engage Germany for the NSM missiles supplies, since Norway is no longer a reliable partner from the EU.

挪威作为欧盟国家已经不值得信任,马来西亚不如转而和德国采购NSM反舰导弹。

 

FirstMetalHamster
Because they're REALLY quiet and durable for a diesel/electric sub.

德国柴电潜艇的核心优势是静音性能顶尖,耐用度也很高。

 

 

IQstrategy
India had most fun with K9 Vajra. Should get more Korean weapons, including subs. Least it will get delivered on time & on budget.The Pakistani boats will dive, but no guarantee it will surface.

印度引进的韩国K9金刚火炮使用体验很好,应当再多采购韩国军备,包含潜艇。至少韩国能按时按预算交货。巴基斯坦潜艇就算下潜,能不能浮上来都不好说。

 

Igloo683
India and Germany have a rich shared past. From Subhas Chandra Bose reaching Germany to ask for help against the British to Oliver Kahn's retirement match happening in India.
Unfortunately, DW news is heavily infiltrated by Turkish-origin editors who are heavily biased against India.

印德两国渊源深厚,当年鲍斯赴德寻求对抗英国的援助,足坛名将卡恩的告别赛也曾落地印度。可惜德国之声大量编辑有土耳其背景,报道印度时偏见很重。

 

TheKkpop1
India builds fighter jet for skydiving, aircraft carrier that has no fighter jets and tankers that are slow and heavy. Parts are made for Boeing are inferior.

印度自研战机性能差,自研航母没有配套舰载机,补给船笨重航速慢;就连给波音代工的零部件质量也不达标。

 

Kenkalsi
Wasn't india getting French submarines? Which were ordered by Australia?

印度不是已经订购法国潜艇了吗?这批潜艇原本是澳大利亚下的订单?

 

gyurmesher
How about South Korean navy sub with Lithium Cell and 10 Vertical Launch Ballistic missile system with 800 km range.

韩国海军潜艇搭载锂电池,配备10单元垂发弹道导弹,射程可达800公里,这款装备怎么样?

 

AMGONY
we want because we don't have the advanced tech

我们选择引进德国潜艇,是因为本国缺少相关先进技术。

 

leonbarboza1619
Why Germany wants to share well cause no other country buys German stuff compare it with the French and the Russian the Israelis and the Americans all have exports higher than Germany Infact Germany has roughly the same export of defence as India does and that's a shame considering India just started exporting less than 10 yrs ago

德国愿意输出潜艇技术,是因为德国军工外销疲软。法国、俄罗斯、以色列、美国军贸出口额全都远超德国。实际上德国军工出口规模和印度相差无几,要知道印度开展军贸出口还不到十年,这点实在难堪。

 

ashishgokhale5410
it is essential to validate India's "real" security posture & needs urgently, more so in view of recent Europe-critical Remarks of the Indian External Affairs Minster (Mr. Jaishankar) in Finnland. India seems to be softening its stance with China (in favour of regional Economical development) and will clearly retain (and further develop) its "political" relationship with Russia. Germany / EU emphasis should be more now on "merit-based" economical transactions.

印度外长苏杰生近期在芬兰公开发言批评欧洲,各国亟需正视印度真实的安全诉求。印度为推动区域经济发展,对华态度有所缓和,同时会持续深化和俄罗斯的战略合作。德国与欧盟今后和印度往来,应当优先开展互利共赢的经贸合作。

 

nemokat09
India is develo its own AIP and wants to retrofit the French Scorpenes with those in the future (first sea trials this year). The French don't have a PROVEN AIP tech on their subs, if they do, they aren't sharing it. But the Germans saw an opportunity and agreed to provide their AIP system along with a new submarine design. So, now the domestic AIP development program will run parallel to the German AIP tech on the new subs and India will learn the latest tech from the Germans. India had a good submarine building program with the Germans in the 80s but corruption got in the way and further collaborations were cancelled.

印度正在自研不依赖空气推进系统(AIP),计划后续改装本国法国鲉鱼级潜艇,自研系统今年开展首次海试。法国潜艇的AIP技术尚未经过充分实战验证,就算技术成熟也拒绝对外转让。德国抓住合作机遇,同意配套输出成熟AIP系统与全新潜艇设计。印度一边推进自研AIP项目,一边通过新潜艇吃透德国先进技术。上世纪80年代印德曾开展成熟潜艇合作项目,最后因国内贪腐问题终止后续合作。

 

rext8949
Wish India had a good AIP system to make roads,flyovers,footpaths ,bridges,trains

真希望印度这套先进AIP技术,也能用来好好修建国内道路、高架、人行道、桥梁和铁路。

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