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我就要从中国一所大学博士毕业了,等着中国给我签发全新的K签证

I'll be graduating (hopefully) in 12 days with a PhD from a Chinese university... and amazingly China will offer me the brand new K-visa because my research is in a STEM field. It means i don't actually need a job to stay in China, i can just stay here until i find one, giving me more time to find one!!

Compare to the US which is the TOTAL opposite, they are charging a $1000 'parole fee' at entry... and of course the $100k annual H1B fee.

Just shows the direction these two countries are going in, one is open to top talent, one is pushing them away. I imagine many talents in the US might now come to China, many many opportunities opening up here..

12 天后(希望能顺利)我就从中国的一所大学博士毕业了。而且令人惊喜的是,中国会给我签发全新的 K 字签证 —— 因为我的研究领域属于 STEM(科学、技术、工程、数学)类。这意味着我不用先找到工作就能留在中国,完全可以先待下来慢慢找,有更多时间筛选机会!

再看看美国,情况完全相反:入境要收 1000 美元的 “假释费”…… 当然还有每年 10 万美元的 H-1B 签证相关费用。

这恰恰能看出两个国家的发展走向:一个对顶尖人才敞开大门,一个却在把人才推走。我猜现在很多在美国的人才可能会来中国,这里正涌现出超多机遇



(注:这是AI生成的图片)

以下是各国网友的评论:

Scotty
Why do you compare everything to the US? Have you even been there?

你为何什么都要跟美国比?你到底去过美国吗?

 

livinlavidaluke
These are the top two countries for AI and education right now which i talk most about

这两个是目前人工智能和教育领域的顶尖国家,也是我最常聊的话题。

 

Scotty
Have you ever been there?

你到底去过没?

 

Jonathan
I guess having visited a country is not prerequisite for comparing its policy with that of another country. Its policy is clearly stated and unambiguously stated

我觉得,没去过一个国家,也能拿它的政策和别的国家比。毕竟政策都是公开明确的,写得很清楚。

 

Debbie GFT
Congratulations Luke!

恭喜卢克!

livinlavidaluke
Thanks, not passed yet though!!

谢谢!不过还没顺利通过答辩呢!

 

NESS
Which type of work do you prefer to do in China, stay in academia or industry?

你在中国想做哪类工作?留在学术界还是进入行业?

 

NESS
I'm not familiar with China's smart healthcare industry. Do specific hospitals have related positions, or are technology companies doing this kind of business?

我不太了解中国的智慧医疗行业。是特定医院有相关岗位,还是科技公司在做这类业务?

 

Dynamic Hedging
Inverted brain drain

反向人才流失。

 

DumbObservation
Welcome. I recently moved from the US to China, after 20 years of living in the US. Easy choice for a better quality of life and a peace of mind.

欢迎。我在美国住了20年,最近刚搬到中国。为了更好的生活质量和安心的日子,这个选择很容易做。

 

Arko Ganguli
Seriously, I feel Trump realises this, and is trying to do course correction, at the cost of his electoral manadate.

说真的,我觉得特朗普已经意识到这点了,正试图调整方向,哪怕要牺牲自己的选举授权。

 

Marc Guyon
Congratulations! Where will you stay after graduation? I’m in Hong Kong and Shenzhen.

恭喜!毕业后打算待在哪里?我在香港和深圳。

 

Over the Hill
People with STEM PhDs are qualified for O-1 visa to the USA, not the H1-B visa. Claims to be a PhD, but cant do basic research

STEM博士有资格申请美国的O-1签证,不是H-1B签证。号称是博士,连基本的调研都不会做。

 

Jerry
No way, are you kidding? Ph.D. in stem alone doesn't even qualify for H1B, let alone O-1. You need to have received a major, internationally recognized award, for O-1, including the Nobel Prize, Academy Awards (Oscars), Grammy Awards, and Pulitzer Prize, etc

怎么可能,你在开玩笑吗?光有STEM博士学位,连H-1B签证都不一定够格,更别说O-1了。申请O-1需要获得重大国际认可的奖项,比如诺贝尔奖、奥斯卡奖、格莱美奖、普利策奖之类的。

 

Over the Hill
You do not no. All you need is published work, which if you have a PhD in a stem field you should have as you should be able to turn your dissertation into published papers. H1-B is intended for people with bachelor degree equivalent qualification.

你懂个球。申请O-1只需要有发表的成果就行——STEM领域的博士肯定有啊,毕竟能把毕业论文改成发表的论文。而H-1B本来就是给有本科及同等学历的人准备的。

 

Over the Hill
People who recieve a prize like the Nobel Prize or the Fields Medal would be qualified for an EB-1

获得诺贝尔奖、菲尔兹奖这类奖项的人,才有资格申请EB-1签证。

 

Andy
Whats the requirements for the k-visa? Do you need a phd?

K字签证的要求是什么?需要博士学位吗?

 

Raghav Malik
This is what happens when Washington mistakes gatekee for strategy. Letting others scoop up the talent while pretending it's smart policy.

这就是华盛顿把“设限”当成“战略”的后果。自己假装政策高明,却让别人把人才都抢走了。

 

 

Clemens Müller
I do support the policy and China overall, I still think it's extremely hard to get a job in China as a non-chinese. Even with those qualifications. I'm happy to be proven wrong though

我支持这个政策,也整体认可中国,但我还是觉得外国人在中国找工作极其困难,哪怕有这些学历也一样。不过要是能被证明我错了,我会很开心。

 

Salomon
Congratulations. I am currently studying ai in korea, and i am coming to china next month. Would love to talk about how life is there and to learn about the technological advances

恭喜!我现在在韩国学人工智能,下个月要去中国。很想和你聊聊中国的生活,还有那里的技术进展。

 

edurition
I’m pretty sure the K visa is on ice right now due to pushback. They’re not approving any.

我敢肯定,因为反对声音,现在K字签证已经暂停了,根本不批。

 

MAK
Universities in China have witnessed a rapid expansion these years. They recruit many overseas-returnee talents, mainly Chinese and also some foreign. As far as I know, 6 new colleges have been established in my university (985) this year and they offer many researcher positions

中国的大学这些年扩张得很快,招了很多海归人才,主要是中国人,也有一些外国人。据我所知,我所在的985大学今年新建了6个学院,提供了很多研究员岗位。

 

Youssef
Ooh is there a process to get from a student visa to a K-visa already?

哦,现在已经有从学生签证转成K字签证的流程了吗?

 

SpruceLee
Supply and demand. When there is zero demand by foreign talent to work in China, they need to provide steep incentives. There is sky high desire for foreign workers to work in the US, thus the barriers. This isn't the flex you think it is.

这就是供需关系。如果外国人才根本不想来中国工作,中国就必须给出高额激励。而外国人想去美国工作的意愿极高,所以美国才设置障碍。这根本不是你想的那种“炫耀资本”。

 

N.E.Destruction
That's awesome. Congratulations. You've made the right choice because there's barely anything here for young graduates in the UK, not even jobs for doctors.

太厉害了,恭喜!你选对了,因为英国现在给年轻毕业生的机会少得可怜,连医生都找不到工作。

 

Kite
Congrats, Luke! Scientific principles and technological advancements are universal and benefit from global cooperation! It's better to stay in a country that puts purpose over profits, builds high-speed rail, and solar panels than in a country that builds military bases overseas.

恭喜卢克!科学原理和技术进步是全人类的财富,需要全球合作才能发展!留在一个注重目标而非利益、修高铁和太阳能板的国家,比留在一个在海外建军事基地的国家强多了。

 

Peter McKenna
The US H1B visa fee is a one time fee, not an annual fee. It’s meant for firms to pay to attract highly skilled professionals and to prevent the H1B visa program abuse that occurred. If your talents are as exceptional as you portend US medical firms would be happy to pay it.

美国的H-1B签证费是一次性的,不是每年都交。这笔费用是让公司支付的,目的是吸引高技能人才,同时防止H-1B签证项目被滥用。如果你的才华真像你说的那么出众,美国的医疗公司会很乐意支付这笔钱的。

 

Blaze Tang
Now this is the sole kind of talent the K visas should be restricted for. Best wishes.

这才是K字签证应该限定的唯一人才类型。祝你好运。

 

Andrew
Why not start your own company doing Medical AI related stuff?

为什么不自己创业,做医疗人工智能相关的业务呢?

 

 

Cyrus Janssen
Fantastic, good for you Luke, thanks for sharing this story

太棒了,卢克,真为你高兴,谢谢你分享这个经历。

 

Robert W. Artigo
Horrifying

太可怕了。

 

A. L.
Agree, might be attractive to certain groups

同意,可能对特定人群有吸引力。

 

Kaimi
You take an absolutely amazing self photo. Congrats on your K visa.

你的自拍拍得真好看。恭喜你拿到K字签证。

 

Dede Kurniawan
Is it legal to receive stipend/salary when we are doing research with this visa?

持有这个签证做研究时,领取津贴或工资是合法的吗?

 

Willsst
Perhaps marry a beautiful uygirl like Dilraba first. But you have a job already right, haven't you? And I'm sure you'll be in demand for the field you are in

或许可以先娶个像迪丽热巴那样漂亮的姑娘。不过你已经有工作了吧?而且我肯定,你这个领域的人才很抢手。

 

Larry Chan, CFA
Do you need to go in for an interview? Do you need to take the HSK?

申请这个签证需要面试吗?需要考汉语水平考试(HSK)吗?

 

Amine
You are totally wrong. K-visa, as its name indicates, is a visa that allows you to enter China and stay for short term. For long term stays, you need a residence permit.

你完全错了。K字签证,顾名思义,是允许你进入中国并短期停留的签证。如果要长期停留,你需要办理居留许可。

 

VFox714
There are so many talented people here in the US! If China is so good, why are 600,000 Chinese students here?

美国有这么多人才!要是中国真那么好,为什么还有60万中国学生来美国?

 

Chi1
we are glad that you found a permanent home in China. We can now denaturalize you.

很高兴你在中国找到了永久家园。现在我们可以剥夺你的国籍了

 

SF hoffman
Just goes to show which is more desirable.

这恰恰说明哪个地方更受欢迎。

 

bobpickettsr
Stay off the bridges.

离桥远点。

 

_awda_
congrats bud! i’m an american who graduated from a chinese uni. from one doctor to another, you know this is a bad comparison. i know feel you need to post things such as this to maintain your following. but do it enough, and you’ll assuage the title you worked so hard to earn.

恭喜啊兄弟!我是美国人,也是中国大学毕业的博士。同为博士,你知道这种对比很不妥。我懂你可能需要发这种内容来维持粉丝量,但发多了,你辛辛苦苦拿到的博士头衔会掉价的。

 

OSheaRules
China is better, stay there.

中国更好,留在那儿吧。

 

 

Vianney
Congrats Luke. You’ve made the right choice

恭喜卢克,你选对了。

 

Marilyn Mao
Welcome to China, all the top talent!

欢迎所有顶尖人才来中国!

 

ML
Congrats, but the US does have the O visa.

恭喜,但美国确实有O类签证啊。

 

Sergey Koulikov
Congratulations. Well done.

恭喜,干得好。

 

John Ford
Good luck finding a job

祝你找工作顺利。

 

Anonymoose Cow
Congratulations. Considering the opportunities that will now be open to you, that k-visas shows how much they value people like you.

恭喜!看看现在对你敞开的这些机会就知道,K字签证足以说明他们有多重视你这样的人才。

 

Al Saints
Congrats Luke, do hope you can stay in your field and continue your contribution in AI and medicine

恭喜卢克,希望你能留在自己的领域,继续在人工智能和医学领域做贡献。

 

Alberta State
Sorry to hear you couldnt get a US visa.

很遗憾听说你没拿到美国签证。

 

F1fan312
All the best and enjoy your time in China

祝你一切顺利,在中国过得愉快。

 

Qinghua Li
Focus on your research. Appreciate everything around you. Let the Universe & Law of Attraction do the rest.

专注于你的研究。珍惜身边的一切。剩下的,交给宇宙和吸引力法则就好。

 

ligma sigma
You’re not the top talent; that’s why you’re there. US is already full of top talent, thus why it is not overly concerned with whether you’re joining the pack. Top places are harder to get into, and turn people away.

你根本不是顶尖人才,所以才去中国。美国已经挤满顶尖人才了,所以根本不在乎你加不加入。顶尖的地方本来就难进,还会拒绝人。

 

 

RuralLegend
Are you specializing in espionage?

你是专门搞间谍活动的吗?

 

Michael
Name one recent invention from China? That hasn’t been stolen from others

说出一个中国最近的发明?一个不是偷来的发明?

 

Chris
Hey bro. They are going to steal your research. And never pay you a dime and then use it to destroy your home country. Useful idiot.

嘿兄弟,他们会偷走你的研究成果,一分钱都不给你,然后用它来摧毁你的祖国。你就是个有用的白痴。

 

richmond
Congratulations... hope your future endeavors will make the world a better place for all.. All the Best to you.

恭喜,希望你未来的努力能让这个世界变得更美好。祝你一切顺利。

 

XMan81A
Congrats. Pls come. Better if you migrate to China. Pls also get your friends to migrate to China.

恭喜。快来吧,移民到中国更好。也把你的朋友都叫来中国移民。

 

xHaq
Racism, would fuck you make you think you are chasing immigrants from your country, make you believe you're doing the fucking till you get fucked

种族主义就是这样:让你觉得是在把移民赶出自己的国家,让你以为自己在掌控一切,直到最后被坑害。

 

Tweeter
Of course its always an option for top talent. But how do you measure it. Problem in China and US is that language entropy viewed in terms of combinatorics and language density, lot of base like IQs will see them as crazy, English alone may destroy 70% of information density.

当然,顶尖人才总有选择。但怎么衡量“顶尖”呢?中国和美国的问题在于,从组合学和语言密度来看,存在语言熵的问题。很多智商普通的人会觉得这很荒谬,单是英语就可能损失70%的信息密度。

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