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英媒: 西方的统治时代是否正让位于中国和印度

Simon Coulter 10 Sep 2018 9:36PM

'Dominance' - a word I don't care to see in this context, has never been about numbers of people - China and India would win hands down - but the stage of economic, and social development.

Indeed, there were industrial revolutions 150+ years ago across the developed West but much of what is called the same which is happening even now in other states is about imported skills and technology serving markets abroad rather than at home, exploiting, for now, cheap labour.

我不想看到“统治地位”这个词,这从来都跟人数无关——不然和印度将轻而易举地获胜——而是在于经济和社会发展的阶段。

实际上,150多年前,西方发达国家发生了工业革命,但即便是现在,其他国家仍在发生的所谓的革命,大多是从海外市场引进技能和技术,而不是在国内开发廉价劳动力。

 

Vincent Bithell 10 Sep 2018 9:27PM

I’ve previously read that by 2035 70% of the Chinese will be 65yo or above with ‘average’ wealth somewhere around 1/10th of your average Greek... Couple that with an unsustainable credit line and I’m doubtful that the next century will be a Pax-China ?!

我之前读到过,到2035年,70%的人将达到65岁或以上,平均财富大约是你们普通希腊人的1/10。再加上不可持续的信贷额度,我对下个世纪会是的时代表示怀疑!

 

Frank Yeo 10 Sep 2018 11:46PM

Rejoice Vincent Bithell. But you won't believe in extrapolation by that time. If you want to daydream about this race with China it is not I but the BBC and all British historians know that China was ahead of the west not for a couple of hundred years but for all history. It was half of wotld history. Who can say it may not again? Even today there are more billionaires in China than in USA which was a stolen continent and built by slaves.

Vincent Bithell,到那时候你不会相信的。你也许愿意对这场与的竞赛继续做白日梦,但我不会,英国广播公司和所有英国历史学家都知道,领先西方不是几百年而已,而是整个历史。这是世界历史的一半。谁能说她不会再次领先呢?即使在今天,的亿万富翁也比美国多。美国是一个偷来的大陆,靠奴隶建造起来的。

 

Uncle Dolan 10 Sep 2018 9:13PM

That's not going to happen. Dream on. Asians don't know how to lead.

Why do you think China steals so much technological know-how from the West? Because they're leaders and act as such?

这是不可能发生的。继续做美梦吧。亚洲人不知道如何领导。

为什么你认为从西方窃取了这么多技术诀窍?因为他们是领导者吗,还是表现得如此?

 

Frank Yeo 10 Sep 2018 11:49PM

Hahaha. You were hundreds years behind and even thousands years. You only built on what was commonplace in China. But who cares.

哈哈哈。你们落后了几百年,甚至几千年。你只是建立在的基础上而已。但是谁在乎呢。

 

Dan Pepper 10 Sep 2018 8:48PM

China’s geo-political aim in the last 30 years seems be driven with the sole aim of grabbing the world’s mineral resources - lately even the moon’s resources. It is playing the long game, collecting pieces like a large game of Go.

In 30 years these western preoccupations will be seen as nothing more than privileged narcissism. Tinkering while Rome (and Washington DC, London and Brussels) fell.

过去30年的地缘政治目标似乎是为了攫取世界矿产资源——最近甚至瞄准了月球资源。这是一种长期游戏,就像大型围棋游戏一样慢慢收集棋子。

30年后,这些西方的成见将被视为特权自恋。当罗马(以及华盛顿特区、伦敦和布鲁塞尔)倒下的时候,只能忙着修修补补。

 

Charles Hinton 10 Sep 2018 9:05PM

You may be right...but Mother Nature and human stubbornness could prove you wrong.

Natural and man made disasters have repeatedly brought China to its knees.

One pandemic could shatter China.

As could the contamination of most of its potable water.

你可能是对的……但是大自然和人类的固执会证明你是错的。

天灾人祸曾多次使屈服。

一场流行瘟疫就可能摧毁。

大部分饮用水的污染也足以做到。

 

Charles Hinton 11 Sep 2018 12:12AM

It sounds as if you prefer to ignore the sad facts of China's problems.

America has water problems...but only 300 million people.

Supplying and maintaining in good health 1.3 billion is China's big problem...and you cannot avoid that

听起来你似乎更愿意忽视问题的可悲事实。

美国有水资源问题…但是人口只有3亿人。

供应并维持13亿人口的健康,是面临的大问题……你不能逃避这一点

 

Frank Yeo 11 Sep 2018 1:25AM

Water is not a new problem for China. Two thousand years they built hthe grand canal which stretches a thousand miles. Today they are diverting water from the south to the north. All that's nothing new. Americans have do e nothing. Maybe the hoover dam.

水对来说不是一个新问题。两千年来,他们修建了绵延一千英里的大运河。今天他们成功地进行南水北调。这并不是什么新鲜事。美国人什么也没做。也许也就只有一个胡佛水坝。

 

Charles Hinton 10 Sep 2018 8:45PM

Chinese demographics indicate that China is now at its peak.

After 2020 it might be all down hill,especially if water shortages become more severe.

的人口统计数据表明,目前正处于巅峰时期。

在2020年之后,情况可能会每日愈下,尤其是如果水资源短缺更加严重的话。

 

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