你认为印度正在成为全球超级大国吗

Do you think India is becoming a global superpower?

你认为印度正在成为全球超级大国吗？

以下是Quora读者的评论：

meJul

Hell, nah!

India is one of the four nations in the world that has real potential to become a global superpower. The other three are China, the US, and Russia.

The US is currently the world's sole superpower. It’s not only their military capability but also their network of mutual-defense alliances that make the US so formidable.

Russia had its day during the Soviet Era. It's still a force to be reckoned with, and many African countries look up to Russia for protection from the West.

China. As we all know, is a rising power. Many people believe it will overtake the US soon. That China is a great nation is written on a 5,000 year-old rock.

The table is large enough to fit these three countries only. For them, happiness is when they are world’s number one. A number two for them is a disgrace.

India is the weakest country that has potential. India’s happiness is when they are number two.

Whereas when China, the US, and Russia fight with other countries, it becomes “an invasion”, “bullying the weak”, “imposing will”, etc.; when India fights with other countries, such as Pakistan, it's a real war, and India’s propaganda machine has to work hard to save national face.

才不是呢！印度是世界上有真正潜力成为全球超级大国的四个国家之一，另外三个是中国、美国和俄罗斯。

美国目前是世界上唯一的超级大国。使其如此强大的不仅是军事实力。

俄罗斯在苏联时代曾风光一时。如今它仍是一股不可小觑的力量，许多非洲国家寄望于俄罗斯，以寻求免受西方的威胁。

众所周知，中国是一个崛起中的大国。很多人认为它很快就会超越美国。中国作为一个伟大的国家，其底蕴镌刻在五千年的历史长河中。

这张“世界大国桌”似乎只容得下这三个国家。对它们而言，只有成为世界第一才是荣耀，屈居第二便是耻辱。

印度是有潜力的国家中实力最弱的一个。对印度来说，能排第二就心满意足了。

当中国、美国和俄罗斯与其他国家发生冲突时，会被说成是“侵略”“恃强凌弱”“强加意志”等；而当印度与其他国家（比如巴基斯坦）发生冲突时，那可是实打实的战争，印度的宣传机器还得费尽心机来维护国家颜面。

KB Sir

India can indeed become a global superpower

No, I am not joking!

Someday in the future, someone in the world (a Chinese scientist/engineer, most likely) will invent a very efficient process to convert garbage into energy

The current methods for generating energy from waste, such as incineration, gasification, and anaerobic digestion, are highly inefficient. They are of very limited practical use

Let’s imagine that in the year 2047, just when Indians have lost all hope that India will even survive as a single country, the Chinese announce that they have found a way to generate 1 MW of power from every 1 ton of garbage at a cost of just 1 rupee

Indians may still bungle it and fail to use the technology effectively as they usually do

印度的确能成为全球超级大国。

不，我没在开玩笑！

未来某天，世界上会有人（大概率是中国的科学家或工程师）发明一种高效的垃圾变能源技术。

目前的垃圾发电方法，比如焚烧、气化、厌氧消化，效率都极低，实际用途十分有限。

试想一下，到2047年，就在印度人对国家能否保持统一都快绝望时，中国人宣布他们找到了新方法——每吨垃圾能发1兆瓦电，成本仅1卢比。

印度人或许还是会搞砸，像往常一样没能有效利用这项技术。

But let’s be positive. My readers tend to think I am too pessimistic about India. So I will be optimistic today

After this invention is shared for free with India, and the Chinese provide guidance and mentoring on how to use it, India will start becoming a global superpower

How? Because, while India does not have oil or rare earth minerals, one thing it has in abundance everywhere is garbage

If only someone taught us how to turn what we have into gold !

These two boys will become Adani and Ambani !

但我们往好里想吧。我的读者总觉得我对印度太悲观，那今天我就乐观一回。

等这项发明免费共享给印度，中国人再指导他们如何使用，印度就会踏上成为全球超级大国的路。

何以见得？因为印度虽没有石油和稀土，却有一样东西遍地都是——垃圾。

要是有人教我们把现有之物变成黄金就好了！

这两个小伙子，将来就是下一个阿达尼和安巴尼！

Mangal Bhasin

India certainly has the potential to become a global power or a so-called superpower. Its huge population poses problems in its journey, but the population, especially the young population, is also a great asset that is on its way to making progress domestically and influencing the global scene.

印度无疑具备成为全球大国乃至所谓超级大国的潜力。庞大的人口在其发展进程中虽带来诸多问题，但人口——尤其是年轻人口——亦是一笔巨大的财富，正推动着国家内部的发展，并对全球格局产生影响。

Andrew McGreevy

No, India lacks the economic size and military to become a global superpower. For an interesting opposite view read The Golden Road by William Dalrymple—he sees India as emerging to lead the world….

不，印度缺乏成为全球超级大国所需的经济规模和军事实力。若想了解相反的观点，可阅读威廉·达尔林普尔的《黄金之路》——在他看来，印度正崛起并将引领世界……

Tanmay Srivatsa
Is India ready to become a global superpower? Why or why not?

No, this is the bitter truth.

Still, India depends on Import
India still don’t have full military strength
Global passport index of India is not impressive
Indian government not good to utilize resource completely
Most analyst don’t show idea proper to solve national problem. Punishment and strict law are not enough government have to think why is been possible

印度做好成为全球超级大国的准备了吗？为什么？

没有，这是残酷的事实。

- 印度仍依赖进口

- 印度尚未具备完整的军事实力

- 印度护照的全球排名并不理想

- 印度政府未能充分利用资源

- 大多数分析人士未能提出解决国家问题的恰当思路。惩罚和严苛的法律并不够，政府必须思考问题为何会存在。

Sameer Verma

How many people are on the official ration list?

80 crores.

How many Indians have invented core technologies across engineering and medical fields?

Zero.

How many Indians have invented technologies across medical and engineering fields and patented them for global consumption?

Zero.

How many pharmaceutical companies have invented real life saving medicines and patented the same for world wide consumption?

Zero.

How many engineers and medical students have passed out and have the band width and capabilities to lead their respective fields and help improve conditions for their fellow citizens?

Zero.

How many policies of the the govt have been implemented that translated into a burgeoning and prosperous middle class with a healthy dose of millionaires and billionaires contributing to the overall growth and prosperity of the nation?

Zero.

印度官方配给名单上有多少人？

8亿。

在工程和医学领域，有多少印度人发明了核心技术？

零。

在医学和工程领域，有多少印度人发明了技术并为供全球使用而申请了专利？

零。

有多少制药公司发明了真正能救命的药物，并为供全球使用而申请了专利？

零。

有多少工科和医科学生毕业，并且有能力引领各自领域、帮助改善同胞的生活条件？

零。

政府实施了多少政策，促成了不断壮大且富裕的中产阶级的出现，同时有相当数量的百万富翁和亿万富翁为国家的整体发展与繁荣做出贡献？

零。

Adani and Ambani don't count since they were millionaires and now billionaires cleverly manipulating govt polices to help their own cause and create a hollow market valuation of their assets and debts.

How many millionaires have left India and settled abroad with their wealth leaving behind the mess of India?

1000s of them in the last 10 years alone.

How many people get basic but nutrition rich food where day to remain healthy and fit?

Barely 50% of the population…and I think I am wrong considering that even I as a bare basic middle class person can't afford to eat a 5 fruit and 5 vegetables and variety of healthy carbs and proteins meals 3 times a day, everyday.

And I'm not even getting into the topic of GMO, GE , traditional seeds and organic versus over use of poisonous pesticides in our food chain.

How many Indians with real talent and capabilities in the fields of science, engineering, medicine etc have left India because they cannot compete in the cesspit of undeserving candidates using reservation and other poorly crafted and implemented policies and overall piss poor policies of the incompetent beauracratic with a deliberate corrupt and soul sucking political, adminstrative and judicial setup?

Lakhs of them in the last 7 decades including a substantial increase in the last 10 years alone.

阿达尼和安巴尼不算在内，因为他们原本就是百万富翁，如今成了亿万富翁，不过是靠巧妙操纵政府政策来谋取私利，给自家资产和债务造出虚高的市场估值罢了。

有多少百万富翁带着财富离开印度、在国外定居，把烂摊子留在了印度？

仅过去10年就有数千人。

有多少人能获得基本且营养丰富的食物，足以维持健康体魄？

勉强达到人口的50%，而且我觉得这个数字可能都估高了，因为就连我这样一个最普通的中产阶级，都没法做到每天三顿饭都吃够5种水果、5种蔬菜，以及各种健康的碳水和蛋白质。

更别提转基因、基因工程、传统种子、有机食品这些话题了，还有我们食物链中过量使用的有毒农药问题。

在科学、工程、医学等领域，有多少真正有天赋和能力的印度人，因为要和那些靠预留制度（配额制）上位的不合格者竞争，还要面对其他制定拙劣、执行不力的政策，以及整个由无能官僚把控、充斥着蓄意腐败且令人心力交瘁的政治、行政和司法体系，而选择离开印度？

过去70年里有数十万人，仅过去10年就大幅增加。

How many fighter jets are presently in service of the Indian airforce to handle the publicly discussed 2.5 front war?

28…30 on paper but in reality barely 28 squadrons if we calculate 90%availability for high tempo operations then around.

What about the Navy and Army and para military forces? Are they well equipped and funded to handle a 2.5 front war with a winnable ending?

Nope…and I say this with embarrassing confidence since I come from a family of military officers, intelligence officers, govt services and a sprinkling of civilian and corporate employment family members who have over the years made it to the middle, senior and top positions and have had a ring side view of reality.

How many people died or suffer due to unbelievable levels of corruption in every aspect of their daily lives inspite of paying obscene tax rates and bribes and bow down in front of swines in power every year begging for basic services and infrastructure?

Lakhs of citizens..prove me wrong.

How many people have basic knowledge and qualifications without superstitious beliefs and religous bigotry and misogynistic thoughts to solve simple everyday problems AND have been given the freedom and responsibility to implement the same?

Hah!!! I can confidently say ZERO considering the system is designed to deliberately crush such people and not allow them to progress without destroying their own lives.

印度空军目前有多少架战斗机在役，足以应对公开讨论的“2.5线战争”？

纸面上有28到30个中队，但实际上勉强能算28个。如果按高强度作战时90%的出勤率来算，大概也就这么多了。

那海军、陆军和准军事部队呢？他们的装备和资金是否足以应对一场“2.5线战争”，并且有胜算？

不够。我可以带着自信这么说，因为我家里有人是军官、情报人员、政府公务员，也有普通文职和企业职员，这些亲属多年来升到了中高层乃至顶层职位，对现实有着近距离的观察。

有多少人尽管每年缴纳高额税款、行贿，还要在掌权的蠢货面前卑躬屈膝，乞求基本的公共服务和基础设施，却仍因日常生活各方面令人发指的腐败而死亡或受苦？

数十万人。有本事反驳我。

有多少人具备基本的知识和素养，没有迷信思想、宗教偏执和厌女观念，能够解决日常的简单问题，并且被赋予实施解决方案的自由和责任？

哈！我可以肯定地说，一个都没有。因为这个体制就是故意要打压这样的人，不毁掉他们的人生，就不让他们出头。

How many women are treated at par with men in terms of resources and opportunities and equality so that can also contribute equally in the progress and improvement of the nation and society?

Zero…women are looked as 2nd rate citizens who are to be assigned kitchen and children producing roles with lip service and barely implemented equality laws and rules for their own upliftment and growth.

And I include highly educated and qualified women in this also considering that inspite of these qualifications and capabilities, as a society we will inevitably relegate them to domestic roles and responsibilities UNDER men.

Add a million other things to the above few points and tell me how exactly can we be a super power whose definition is anyway subjective to change from country to country, society to society?

在资源、机会和平等方面，有多少女性能得到与男性同等的对待，从而也能为国家和社会的进步发展做出同等贡献？

一个都没有，女性被视作二等公民，注定要被分配到厨房和生育的角色中。那些所谓促进女性提升与发展的平等法律法规，不过是口惠而实不至。

我这话也包括那些受过高等教育、具备专业资质的女性。即便她们拥有这些资质和能力，在我们这个社会里，最终还是会不可避免地被归入男性之下，承担起家庭角色和责任。

除了上述几点，再想想其他无数问题，你说说看，我们究竟怎么可能成为超级大国？更何况，“超级大国”的定义本身，在不同国家、不同社会里也是主观可变的。

America is a super power militarily, economically under one definition of this term but is all well in their country?

China is a super power under a different definition of this term but are they really a gold standard to qualify for this position?

Sweden, Finland, Denmark are extremely robust economies and society but hardly qualify for super power status considering their military is no where close to what is conventionally associated with a super power.

Russia is a “super power” if I take nuclear weapons and oil and gas as a benchmark but is for all practical purposes a failed state in other aspects of society and a nation.

Japan and South Korea and Singapore are technological giants but don't have the other parameters to qualify as a super power.

Where does India stand in comparison technologically, economically, militarily and over all progressive society and citizens?

It's a pipe dream of naive and frankly speaking idiots who live in an illusion of vague and extremely stupid levels of self grandiose and historical importance in world events and geo political levels of brinkmanship and economic and muscle power to affect situations.

按照“超级大国”的某一种定义，美国在军事和经济上都算得上是超级大国，但他们国内就一切都好吗？

按照另一种定义，中国是超级大国，但他们真的达到了这个地位应有的黄金标准吗？

瑞典、芬兰、丹麦有着极其稳健的经济和社会，但几乎算不上超级大国，因为它们的军事实力远达不到传统意义上与超级大国挂钩的水平。

如果以核武器和油气资源为标准，俄罗斯算是“超级大国”，但实际上，在社会和国家的其他方面，它就是个失败的国家。

日本、韩国和新加坡是科技巨头，但缺乏其他参数来支撑超级大国的地位。

那么，印度在科技、经济、军事以及整体社会和公民的进步程度上，处于什么位置呢？

认为印度能成为超级大国，不过是那些天真者——说难听点就是蠢货——的白日梦。他们活在幻想里，怀揣着模糊不清、愚蠢至极的自命不凡，沉迷于对自身在世界事件、地缘政治边缘政策以及影响局势的经济和军事力量中所具历史重要性的虚妄认知。