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印度西红柿的价格暴涨到每公斤140卢比也没人闹,但汽油和柴油涨1卢比就开始吵,为什么呢

Why are people not bothered about tomatoes increasing prices which have reached 140 per kg and react to petrol and diesel price hike for 1 rupee?

西红柿的价格暴涨到每公斤140卢比也没人闹,但汽油和柴油涨1卢比就开始吵,为什么呢?

 

 

以下是Quora网友的评论:

Rahul Sharma

What you & I debate about is decided in the offices of the ruling party & opposition. Once they have decided the topic, they pass instructions to their IT cell heads, who further pass instructions to their teams to get the agenda going. The team prepares jokes, cartoons, posters, FB & Insta stories etc.

我们争论不休的事,执政党和在野党在办公室里自有定夺。只要做了决定,他们就会把指令传给IT主管,他们进一步将指令传递给他们的团队,准备笑话、漫画、海报、脸书和Insta的文案等。

This content is then forwarded to darling media houses. Cartoons & posters go to print media while video clips & other content go to TV channels. BJP gives it to Zee News & Republic TV while opposition gives it to NDTV, The Wire, Quint etc. Then keyboard warriors join the game & start abusing each other in comment box.

这些内容随后被转发给亲爱的媒体公司。漫画和海报登上纸媒,视频和其他内容上了电视频道。人民党把内容交给Zee News和Republic TV,反对党则交给NDTV、The Wire、Quint等,然后键盘侠们开始在评论中掀起骂战。

This question on Quora has also been prepared by IT cell because the prices of Tomato haven't gone up to 140 rupees per KG. Current price of Tomato in Delhi is 80 rupees per KG, similar is the case in other states. Since I cannot take you to the hawker, I will show you what Big Basket website is showing:

Quora上的这个问题也是IT部门准备的,西红柿的价格还没有涨到每公斤140卢比呢。目前德里西红柿的价格是每公斤80卢比,其他邦的情况也差不多。我没办法带你去找小贩问价格,那就给你看看大篮子网站上的价格吧:

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Another reason for low hype about this issue is, by the time politicians would decide their strategy about this topic & execute, prices would reduce. All their efforts & money would be wasted. The posters would look outdated.

这个问题的炒作度不高还有一个原因:当政客们决定对物价作出决策并执行时,价格就会下降,他们所有的努力和金钱都会被浪费。

 

 

 

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam

Excellent Question

Tomatoes cost Rs. 140/- per KG but in 1 month they can drop to Rs. 15/- per KG

Its pure Demand and Supply and happens every year

Can Petrol costing Rs. 100/- per Liter drop to Rs. 25/- per Liter in 2 Months?????

Of course not

这是个非常好的问题。

西红柿的价格是每公斤140卢比,但一个月后就会降至每公斤15卢比

这就是供需决定的,每年都会发生这种事。

每升100卢比的汽油价格能否在两个月内降至每升25卢比?????

当然不可能。

When Petrol goes from Rs. 70/- to Rs. 100/- , whats the chance of it coming to Rs. 50/- or Rs. 60/- or even Rs. 80/-. Tell me from experience in India. How many times have you seen a price go up and then come down????

Gold? Silver? Petrol? Diesel?

Veggie Prices react simply to demand and supply. If theres a flood, prices shoot up and once supply is restored prices come crashing down. Onions cost Rs. 170/- per Kg sometime ago but today it costs Rs. 30/- per Kg. A Fall of almost 80%

当汽油从70卢比涨到100卢比后,价格再降到50卢比、60卢比、甚至80卢比的可能性有多大?就以印度的经验来说吧,你见过几次物价上涨后能再下降????

黄金?银?汽油?柴油?

蔬菜价格只和供求关系有关。如果爆发洪水,菜价就会飙升,一旦供应恢复,菜价就会暴跌。洋葱以前也到过每公斤170卢比,但现在只要每公斤30卢比。跌幅近80%。

 

 

 

Naveen Subramanian

Fuel prices reflect a hike in inflation, inflation results in tomato price hikes. Govt says tomato price hike is due to crop loss (monsoon rain) - which is correct to an extend. But even in non-monsoon seasons, the price of tomatoes has kept increasing year after year while production volume was also increasing simultaneously.

Indian inflation between 1960 till 2020

燃料价格反映了通货膨胀的上升,通货膨胀导致了番茄价格的上涨。政府说西红柿价格上涨是由于歉收(季风雨)—在一定程度上这说的没错。但即便在非季风季节,西红柿的价格也逐年上涨,产量也逐年增加。

1960年到2020年期间印度的通货膨胀

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If you compare the price of tomatoes between 1953 and 2021- the cost of tomatoes has increased steadily along with inflation, with an average inflation rate of 3.64% per year. This means the cost is hiked by 1,040.41% when compared to 1953.

You may feel a 1000% cost increase in 68 years is quite natural and isn’t a big deal. But NO - when supply (production) is higher, price should decrease. India is 2nd largest exporter of tomatoes next to China, which means our production has increased significantly.

如果你比较一下1953年到2021年间西红柿的价格,你会发现西红柿的价格随着通货膨胀而稳步增长,平均每年的通货膨胀率为3.64%。这意味着与1953年相比,价格增加了1040.41%。

你可能会觉得68年里价格增长了1000%没什么大不了。但不是的,当供应(生产)较多时,价格应该下降。印度是仅次于中国的第二大西红柿出口国,这意味着我们的产量大幅增加了。

So why does the price keeps increasing…

Let’s calculate in USD (since fuel price is determined in USD)

Consumer price index (CPI) in 2021 / CPI in 1953 * 1953 USD value = 2021 USD value.

The CPI for Tomatoes was 30.615 in the year 1953 and 349.139 in 2021

349.139 / 30.615 * $20 = $228.08

This means $20 in 1953 has the same "purchasing power" as $228.08 in 2021

Please note this calculation is based on an average inflation rate of 3.64% in 68 years, however current inflation rate is 7–8% (actuals)

This is what reflects a 1000% increase in price hike despite higher production volume over a period of 68 years.

但为什么价格一直在上涨呢?

让我们用美元来计算(因为燃料价格是用美元决定的)

2021年消费者物价指数(CPI) / 1953年CPI * 1953年美元值= 2021年美元值。

1953年西红柿的CPI为30.615,2021年为349.139

349.139 / 30.615 * $20 = $228.08

这意味着1953年的20美元与2021年的228.08美元具有相同的“购买力”

请注意,这个计算是基于68年间的平均通货膨胀率为3.64%,但目前的通货膨胀率已达7-8%。

这说明在68年的时间里,尽管产量一直在增加,但价格也上涨了1000%。

Answering the original question: Why are people not bothered about tomatoes increasing prices which have reached 140 per kg and react to petrol and diesel price hike for 1 rupee?

Every Rs 1 increase in fuel tax reflects in fuel price. An increase in fuel price results in a hike in the inflation rate. When inflation goes up, the cost of basic commodities and essentials goes up.

So no matter how huge our production volume goes up, the cost of tomatoes will keep increasing year after year as inflation goes up.

Note: The cost of tomatoes will go down after the monsoon, that’s not the point. This answer is about why the price keeps inflating despite the huge production volume.

回到原来的问题:西红柿的价格暴涨到每公斤140卢比也没人闹,但汽油和柴油涨1卢比就开始吵,为什么呢?

因为燃油税每增加1卢比就会反映在燃料销售价格上。燃料销售价格上涨导致通货膨胀率上升。而通货膨胀上升时,基本商品和必需品的成本就会随之上升。

所以不管我们的产量增加多少,西红柿的成本都会随着通货膨胀逐年增加。

注意:雨季过后西红柿的价格会回落,这不是问题的关键。这个答案主要解释了为什么尽管产量巨大,价格却一直在上涨的原因。

 

 

 

Satish Kumar

The reasons for hike in Tomato and Petrol/Diesel prices are different (though it ultimately boils down to “Demand - Supply” gap, the actors in the game are different).

Tomato prices have climbed up because of sudden rains in a season when rains are not expected. Rains are the worst enemy of crops like Tomatoes (basically all vegetables). However, the prices fluctuate rapidly. If the weather is good, it won’t take long for the Tomato prices to come down to Rs.20–30 per Kilogram. In my area in Bengaluru, the Tomato prices had climbed to Rs.100 per Kilo after 2 weeks of continuous rains. However, after 3 days of sunshine, the prices have come back to Rs.60 per Kilo. 40% drop in just 3 days!!! Tomato prices are controlled by Traders in the local markets.

西红柿和汽油/柴油价格上涨的原因并不同(尽管最终也都归结为“供需失衡”,但参与者不同)。

西红柿价格上涨的原因是平常没雨的季节突然下雨了。雨水是西红柿等弄作物(基本上所有蔬菜)的最大天敌。

但这个价格波动速度很快。如果天气好,用不了多久西红柿的价格就会回落到每公斤20 - 30卢比。

我所在的班加罗尔地区,在经历了连续两周的降雨后,西红柿的价格已经攀升到每公斤100卢比。

但只要天晴3天,价格又会回落到了每公斤60卢比,3天内降幅高达40% !!西红柿的价格是由当地市场的商人控制的。

Petrol prices are subject to many factors - International Crude Oil prices, Taxes levied by Central and State Governments, etc. While Central and State Governments were milking the Indian Citizens with heavy taxes, the International prices also rose. Somewhere around Diwali, Central Government (BJP) realized that elections are just around the corner and if they continue milking the customers then they will lose badly (so they decided to throw some crumbs at the public by offering little discount, after robbing us for so many months).

汽油价格则受到多重因素的影响—国际原油价格,印度中央政府和邦政府的税收等。印度中央政府和邦政府向印度公民征收重税的同时,国际原油价格也出现上涨。排灯节前后,印度中央政府(人民党)意识到选举即将到来,如果他们继续压榨消费者,他们就在会选举中输得很惨(所以他们决定给大家一点折扣,给点小恩惠)。

 

 

 

Priyabrata

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Why are people not reacting on the price hike of petrol and diesel?

Aren’t we tired of this already?

Last year there was a huge uproar on social media regarding this. What happened finally ? Nothing. The government slashed the prices claiming it to be a Diwali gift to the nation.

All the government did there was to slash the heavy taxes levied upon oil. SIMPLE. Nothing monumental.

为什么人们对汽油和柴油价格上涨没有反应?

难道不是因为我们已经谈腻了?

去年油价问题就在社交媒体上引发了轩然大波。最后呢?什么用也没有。政府大幅降价,声称这是给印度的排灯节礼物。

政府所做的只是削减对石油征收的重税而已。非常简单,说不上是什么伟大不朽的功绩。

Some of the states even pay 50% or more in taxes.

I real feel that India has to change its strategy. They have to look for new or alternative markets. We also need to think about the high taxation levied on Petrol. Alternatively we can explore new reserves at home.

The government also knows that no matter how much the prices rise, we will still buy it for our need. Also, what can we do ? Shout ? Protest ? Get hit with rubber bullets ? or Water canons ?

有些邦甚至要缴纳50%甚至更高的税。

我真的觉得印度必须改变策略。他们必须寻找新的或可替代的市场。我们还需要斟酌一下对汽油征收的高额税收。我们也可以在国内勘探新的油田。

政府也知道,不管价格涨多少,我们都得买,因为我们有需求。而且我们还能做些什么呢?吵闹?抗议?用橡皮子弹或水炮打人?

 

 

 

Vij K

Food item prices are seasonal and many a times manipulated ones. Tomato Onion Potato…… prices are hiked and brought down very regularly so Tomato may be 140 per kg today but in 2–4 weeks they will go below 40/50 and further.

With Petrol, Diesel that is never the case. Hence those prices matter to majority as 1 rs difference in their prices escalate prices of many things as Transportation costs more.

食品价格都是有季节性的,很多时候是人为操纵的。西红柿、洋葱、土豆......价格经常涨涨跌跌,所以西红柿今天可能每公斤卖到140卢比,但过几个礼拜,可能就会跌到40/50卢比以下,甚至继续下跌。

但对于汽油和柴油来说,情况却并非如此。因此,这些价格对大多数人来说很重要,因为油价上涨会导致许多商品的价格上涨,因为运输成本会上涨。

BTW

Why only Food items?

Since 2016 onward and political theatrics of Demonetization to current Ban China one has resulted in unimaginable spiraling up Inflation in all the sectors. Take prices of various things be it Home Auto Healthcare Food Clothing Travel and compare prices.

顺便说一句,

为什么只有食品?

自2016年以来,废钞运动的政治闹剧导致了所有行业出现了失控的通货膨胀。无论是家居、汽车、医疗、食品、服装还是交通,各种商品的价格都上涨了。

Some are getting salary increments but in the end whatever mirage hike you have got is disappearing into hands of those sellers from whom you have to purchase regularly to survive

Indians have long stopped thinking about their own lives and financial hardships; Its all about Social Media images and celebrating those things which does not matter to their lives at all

有些人加薪了,但到最后,你拿到手的加薪都会如海市蜃楼般消失在那些卖家手中,因为你必须定期向他们采购才能生存。

印度人早就不再考虑自己的生活和经济困难了;这都是社交媒体的事,和他们的生活毫无关系。

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