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印度一直升机坠毁,机上7人全部遇难

 Kedarnath chopper crash: Pilot switched to hill-flying only last month

印度Kedarnath直升机坠毁:飞行员上个月才转山地飞行

MUMBAI: The Uttarkhand helicopter crash which killed seven people on Tuesday and the Pawan Hans offshore accident near Bombay High that killed four people four months ago have quite a few similarities, pointed out industry experts. Both the accidents involved senior pilots who had recently moved on to flying a new aircraft type and so were low on experience on the machine that crashed.

孟买:行业专家指出,周二造成7人死亡的北坎德邦直升机坠毁事故和4个月前造成4人死亡的孟买高地附近帕万汉斯直升机海上坠毁事故有很多相似之处。这两起事故都涉及优秀飞行员,他们最近才开始驾驶新型号飞机,因此对坠毁的那架飞机缺乏操作经验。

Then again, both the accidents occurred in challenging weather conditions.

而且,这两起事故均发生在恶劣的天气条件下。

For close to 15 years, Capt Anil Singh, the deceased pilot in the Uttarkhand crash had been an offshore pilot, flying multi-engine Dauphin N-3 aircraft to Bombay High. "He joined Aryan Aviation in September, about a month ago where he began flying the single-engine Bell407. He was primarily an offshore pilot. The question to be asked is what kind of recurrence training was given to make him hill-flying proficient," said an industry expert.

在近15年的时间里,在北阿坎德邦坠机事故中遇难的飞行员阿尼尔·辛格上尉一直是海上飞行员,驾驶多引擎“海豚”N-3飞往孟买高地。一位行业专家说:“他是9月份加入雅利安航空的,大约一个月前,他开始驾驶单引擎Bell407。他主要是海上飞行员。问题是,他接受了什么样的反复训练,才能熟练地在山地飞行。”

"He was an Army pilot and so he would have flown in the hills, but that was in the early stages of his career. Flying over the sea in a multi-engine helicopter and flying over hilly terrain on a single-engine helicopter are two very different kinds of operations that demand some specifically different skill sets," he added.

“他是一名陆军飞行员,所以在山区飞行,但那是在他职业生涯的早期阶段。多引擎直升机在海上飞行和单引擎直升机在丘陵地带飞行是两种非常不同的操作,需要一些特别不同的技能组合,”他补充道。

A senior offshore pilot, said, requesting anonymity: "Multi-engine helicopters engaged in offshore flying are equipped with autopilot and other stabilisation devices. It relies on cockpit instruments for navigation, and so poor visibility doesn't pose as big a problem as say, when flying a single-engine helicopter visually over a hilly terrain." Preliminary investigations show that poor weather played a role in the crash, said a senior Directorate General of Civil Aviation official.

一位要求匿名的高级海上飞行员说:“从事海上飞行的多引擎直升机配备了自动驾驶仪和其他稳定装置。它依靠座舱仪器进行导航,所以能见度差不会像单引擎直升机在丘陵地形上飞行那样造成大问题。”民航总局的一位高级官员说,初步调查显示,恶劣天气是坠机的原因之一。

In case of the June Pawan Hans accident, the pilots had experience on the Dauphin N-3 helicopter. "They had recently moved to the more sophisticated glass cockpit Sikorksy. Apart from simulator training, they had less than 10 hours of actual flying experience with an instructor on board. Moreover, they began flying offshore during monsoon, the most challenging time of the year for offshore operations," said a source.

在6月帕万汉斯事故中,飞行员有驾驶“海豚”N-3直升机的经验。他们最近转到了更复杂的西科斯基玻璃座舱。除了模拟器训练,他们只有不到10个小时的实际飞行经验,并有教练在机上。此外,他们开始在季风期间飞向近海,这是一年中海上操作最具挑战性的时间。”

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印度时报读者的评论:

2 h

There would be a series of rapidly deteriorating circumstances that led to this accident. It is possible that this particular scenario was not practiced in a simulator, or maybe not discussed in a classroom, but such unique and dangerous sets of concurrent events will always occur and then blaming the pilots is the lazy and easy way to conclude the inquiry.

一系列迅速恶化的情况导致了事故。这种特殊的场景在模拟器中可能没有进行过演练,或者可能没有在课堂上讨论过,但这种独特、危险且并发的事件总是会发生,调查时责备飞行员,是懒惰的方式,只是为了草草结案。

 

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With advanced satellite systems, weather conditions can be assessed before deciding whether to take off or not. Why the helicopter only knew enroute that it was too foggy and would have to turn back?

有了先进的卫星系统,在决定是否起飞前可以评估天气状况。为什么直升机在途中才知道雾太大,必须折返?

 

Nagendra Rajput

You can't alone blame pilot being inexperienced for hill flying.What happened in general rawat chopper crash although its pilots were decorated and experienced.

不能责怪飞行员缺乏山地飞行经验。虽然为拉瓦特开直升机的飞行员都是军功卓著、经验丰富的,但还是发生了直升机坠毁事件。

 

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First of all, terminate the services of aryan helicopters, then do anything, if at all you want to

首先,终止雅利安直升机服役,然后该干嘛干嘛

 

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Helicopter flying, ho sake to, avoid karo, specially in hilly terrain.

驾驶直升机时,要小心,避免坠落,特别是在丘陵地带。

 

Ajay Nath

company must be extracting the maxmum profit by providing the minimum facilities. then only such accident happens.

公司为了获取最大的利润偷工减料,导致发生事故。

 

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Does all these Pilots periodically go for refresher training or check on their professional capabilities? There should be proper Govt agency wherein these so called expert Pilots are tested for their physical, mental and professional stability.

这些飞行员是否定期参加进修训练,是否定期检查他们的专业能力?应该有一个适当的政府机构,对这些所谓的专家飞行员进行身体、精神和职业稳定性的测试。

True Indian

 That would be become another hub for bribing business as like current RTO system of India.

这将成为另一个贿赂中心,就像印度目前的RTO系统一样。

 

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all due to greed

都是因为贪婪

 

K Sridhar

This once again proves that the DGCA doesnt enforce strict regulations/guidelines resulting in these operators taking risky flights with hardly any thought to the passenger & pilot safety. Rooky pilots with not much experience in difficult terrain with deadly weather conditions are allowed to fly with aircrafts, in which they hardly have much training, risking the passenger and their own lives. Its is rediculous to blame the pilot when the whole system is rotten!!!!!

这再次证明印度民航总局没有实施严格的规定/指南,导致这些运营商在几乎不考虑乘客和飞行员安全的情况下执行航班。在恶劣地形和致命天气条件下,没有多少经验的新手飞行员被允许驾驶飞机,他们几乎没有接受多少训练,拿乘客和他们自己的生命冒险。在整个系统都烂了的时候,责怪飞行员是荒谬的!

 

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Oh come on. The pilot was a living human being too and he did not want to die. It was an accident and we don't know why it happened. Stop jum the gun and blaming the pilot. It might have been anything at all.

拜托,飞行员也是活生生的人,他不想死。这是个意外,我们不知道为什么会发生事故。不要操之过急责怪飞行员。一切皆有可能

 

V

Sad ! But operating company should have appointed someone more experienced. We have to have some Protocol while hiring pilots for such areas. Pilot also lost life unawares that he wasn’t suitable for hilly areas . RIP !!

难过

但是运营商应该派一个更有经验的飞行员。

在雇佣执飞这些地区的飞行员时,必须遵循一些规程。

飞行员也在没有意识到自己不适合山区飞行的情况下失去了生命。安息吧!

 

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if this is true than why switched to Hill flying without proper training.....

如果是这样,那么为什么在没有经过适当训练的情况下能转飞山区?

 

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Has anyone noticed the large number of people of all Religions who die every year on Pilgrimages ? These people wouldn't have died if they didn't go for the Pilgrimage.,Think about it and the implications. I won't say anymore.

有没有人注意到每年有许多不同宗教的人死于朝圣之旅?如果他们不去朝圣,就不会死。想想其中的意思,我就不多说了。

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A proper road should be built.

应该修建一条好走的路。

 

7 0 • Reply • Flag

This is a case of utter negligence on the part of operating agency and a result of not following the SOP.Management of agency and its owner/director must be prosecuted and hanged for adopting the shortcuts and they must pay the losses to the families of all the bereaved.

这是一个运营商的过失,是没有遵循SOP的结果。该公司的管理人员及其所有人/主管必须被起诉,处以绞刑,向所有遇难者家属赔偿损失。

 

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the pilot was flying this chopper for more than a month. his was trained pilot. seem bad weather played role here. remember chopper carring CDS was crashed few months back that has most experienced pilots.

飞行员驾驶这架直升机有一个多月了,他接受过训练的。看来是因为恶劣的天气了。还记得几个月前一架载着国防参谋长的直升机坠毁了吗,驾驶那架直升机的飞行员是最有经验的。

 

Vastava

God is laughing at them..fool people

神在嘲笑他们,忽悠人们

 

Megha Astro

India needs to do enforce strict safety regulations everywhere..safety and training is not conisdered important. The laboureres in construction many dont use hard hats and other standard safety nets ..fire alarms are not mandatory and no maintenance is must,,There are so many things there are no enforced safety standards ..,That needs to be implemented..

印度应该执行严格的安全法规。很多建筑工人不戴安全帽。火警警报器不是强制性的,也不是必须要维护的,有很多事情没有强制的安全标准。这些都需要实施。

 

Myth Buster

Who cares.

谁在乎

 

shaleen mathur

Problem is India has a very small pool of capable pilots and majority are trained at private schools with suspect quality control. The government has ignored pilot training and we only have 1 government flying academy. Also in adverse weather conditions why is the helicopter allowed to take off???

问题是,在印度,优秀飞行员的数量非常少,飞行员大多数都是在质量控制可疑的私立学校接受培训的。政府忽视了飞行员培训,我们只有一所公立飞行学院。还有,在恶劣的天气条件下,为什么允许直升机起飞?

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