Is China About To Break America’s F-35 Advantage With A Cheap, Heat-Seeking Missile Trap?

中国是否即将用廉价热寻导弹陷阱打破美国的F-35优势？

China is reportedly exploring new ways to detect and counter stealth aircraft, drawing lessons from Iran’s conflict with the U.S. PLA teams have reportedly tested coordinated use of infrared-guided MANPADS and HQ-16 air-defence missiles against simulated low-signature targets, while Beiing continues investing in low-frequency radars, data links and multistatic detection systems.

据报道，中国正在探索探测和对抗隐身飞机的新方法，并从伊朗与美国的冲突中吸取经验。据悉，解放军团队已测试了红外制导便携式防空导弹与HQ-16防空导弹协同使用，对抗模拟低可探测性目标，同时中方继续投资于低频雷达、数据链和多基探测系统。

以下是印度网友的评论：

ivantan5690
China is saying "No point hiding.... I can see you"

中国在说：“别躲了……我看得见你。”

 

davidlaw9686
F35 had already lost that stealth characteristics some time ago.

F35的隐身特性，早就名存实亡了。

 

eugenec7130
No stealth without rare earth?

没有稀土，就玩不了隐身，是吗？

 

AR-lt7xo
These Manpads are already in the hands of Iranians for live testing in Warzone

这些单兵防空导弹，伊朗人已经在战场上实打实地测试了。

 

MAR-lt7xo
Hindutan Time is more worried about the US than India

《印度斯坦时报》看起来更操心美国，而不是印度自己。

 

nickgoh8947
Indian media obsesses over "China counter-attacking the USA" — but maybe they should worry more about China finally teaching India another lesson over Tib. It's been over 60 years since 1962. That angry giant neighbour has been patient long enough. Indians might want to watch their backs and asses — literally.

印度媒体老盯着“中国反击美国”不放。但他们也许更该担心中国最终会在边境问题上再给印度一个教训。1962年都过去六十多年了。那个愤怒的北方巨人已经够有耐心的了。印度人真该好好提防着点后路

 

peterseth3296
Indians elites actually live in the US. They only work in India.

印度精英其实都住在美国，只是在印度上班而已。

 

siewkonsum7291
All western stealth is no longer stealth because China has already developed & in operation to detect, track real-time to shoot down any intruding stealth fighter jets

西方所有隐身战机都不再隐身了。因为中国已经研发出相应的系统，能实时探测、追踪，并击落任何入侵的隐身战机。

 

HeadShotMagnet11
Stupid. F-35 pilots are not always relying on Stealth it can use Electronic warfare to jam enemies radar.

真蠢。F35飞行员又不全靠隐身，它还可以用电子战手段干扰敌方雷达。

KittyCat-nv9nd
@HeadShotMagnet11 The US has already lost a couple EW battles in the South China Sea to China. The US cannot achieve EW superiority against China. Get a grip.

美国在南海跟中国交手，电子战已经输过几回了。美国在中国面前根本占不到电子战的优势。清醒点吧。

 

DarraghInoke
It's like I have a lock and someone else has access to the key.

这就好比，我上了锁，可别人手里却有钥匙。

 

ostefelosr-q9k
Bravo China and keep supply to Iran

中国好样的，继续给伊朗供货吧。

 

NellStar-i3k
In future China will give the technology for manpad to Iran. Iranian drone are made from the tech of China. Cheap yet effective.

未来中国会把单兵防空导弹技术给伊朗的。伊朗的无人机就是用中国技术造的，便宜又好用。

 

jakelee6699
Yeah, and China's also going to give Iran 500 nuclear weapons to bomb Israel.

是啊，中国还得给伊朗500颗核弹去炸以色列呢。

 

justme6275
China's Peaceful Rise but ready for any hostilities

中国和平崛起，但也随时准备好应对任何敌对行动。

 

jimjames5612
F 35 "advantage ? overly expensive corrupt contractors, and the tech is mediocre. iran can shoot them down so why would anyone actually pay for them ? junk tech

F35的“优势”？承包商太贵太腐败，技术也就一般般。伊朗都能把它打下来，谁还愿意花钱买？就是个破烂技术。

 

Rishith-oj9pz
sorry 1 in 100s were shot and even after getting shot down the jet landed safely. iran lost more than half of its air force btw

抱歉，几百架里才被击落了一架，而且被打中后还能安全着陆。顺便说一句，伊朗自己的空军倒是损失了一大半。

jimjames5612
@Rishith-oj9pz more than five were shot down, mainly because iran didn't know the F 35 was invisible

被击落了不止五架，主要是因为伊朗之前不知道F35是“隐形”的。

 

MusaLoum-gv9bi
So what is the problem with that?

所以那又有什么问题呢？

 

anonanon7235
The only problem, is the US won't be able to keep it's bases in East Asia.

唯一的问题是，美国再也守不住它在东亚的基地了。

 

lordgarion514
What f-35 advantage? Only 44% of our fleet is capable of performing at least some of us missions. And only 25% of our fleet of f-35s are fully mission capable.

什么F35优势？我们整个机队里，只有44%能执行部分任务。而具备完整任务能力的F35，只有25%。

 

Rishith-oj9pz
even if the avaliblity rate of f35 is 50% then also USAF will privale because usa has more than 600 f35s and even 25 % of the f35s can level and average air force. also USA has f22 too

就算F35的可用率只有50%，美国空军照样占优，因为美国有超过600架F35。就算只有25%能出动，也足以碾压一般国家的空军了。况且美国还有F22呢。

 

titanxe5579
Only a real war can reveal who is dancing nakedly. hahaha I can't wait to see the result.

只有真正的战争，才能揭穿谁在裸泳。哈哈哈，我都等不及想看结果了。

 

lowtech_1
What new about heat seeking manpads?

红外制导的单兵防空导弹，这有什么新鲜的？

 

ericlim9667
Well done China. Use asymmetrical strategy & anti-stealth technology to eliminate American interference in China's Taiwan separatism. Send this message to America : "You can run but you cannot hide. I got you covered".

中国干得漂亮。用非对称战略和反隐身技术，来消除美国对中国台湾分裂问题的干涉。给美国带个话：“你跑得了，但躲不掉。我已经盯死你了。”

 

poudinriamei9767
Very doubtful

非常可疑，我不太信。

 

sjv9147s
Tactically, China's MIC's policy is based on seamless integrative systems that communicate virtually in real-time inter alia via 6G big data communications. Which includes quadrangulations with AI-enhanced lock-ons & controls of myriad Hypersonics far beyond visual range with hi-res AESA radar arrays.

从战术上讲，中国军工的策略是基于无缝集成系统，能通过6G大数据通信等方式实现近乎实时的信息交互。这还包括通过高分辨率有源相控阵雷达阵列，用人工智能增强的锁定和制导能力，实现对大量超视距高超音速武器的四维管控。

 

paultze-h9k
China have developed a lightweight AI system for heat-seeking missiles that can identify the infrared heat signatures of US F-22 and F-35 stealth fighters with over 90% accuracy, potentially neutralizing traditional flare countermeasures. This technology exploits the fact that while stealth fighters minimize radar cross-sections, they cannot fully suppress their infrared emissions.

中国已经开发了一套用于红外制导导弹的轻量化人工智能系统，能识别美国F22和F35隐身战斗机的红外热信号，准确率超过90%，有可能让传统的红外干扰弹失效。这项技术利用了一个事实：隐身战机虽然能减小雷达反射面积，但无法完全抑制自身的红外辐射。

 

Youtubefan-h5z
Heat seeking missiles (man pad) will hit any jet fighters when seen first by eyes. F 35 can not be detected by radars from far away.

红外制导导弹（单兵防空系统）只要肉眼先看到目标，就能打中任何喷气式战斗机。F35虽然雷达在远处探测不到，但肉眼还是能看见的。

 

eugenec7130
ICE or petrol/gasoline cars too. ICE are heat generating components. Another reason to drive EVs.

内燃机汽车或者汽油车也一样。内燃机本身就是发热部件。这也是开电动车的一个理由。

 

KittyCat-nv9nd
Ultra-High Frequency (UHF) radar can detect an F-35. Stealth aircraft like the F-35 are optimized to defeat high-frequency targeting radars (X, C, and Ku bands), but low-frequency bands like VHF and UHF use longer wavelengths that interact with the physical size of the airframe via resonance, making the jet visible. Thus, UHF and VHF radars + Heat Seeking Missiles = Death of F35.

特高频雷达可以探测到F35。像F35这样的隐身战机，是针对高频火控雷达（X波段、C波段、Ku波段）优化的。但甚高频和特高频这类低频段雷达，波长更长，会跟机体尺寸产生谐振效应，从而让战机现形。所以，特高频/甚高频雷达 + 红外制导导弹 = F35的克星。

 

nickgoh8947
China: 6th-generation fighter jets for world peace — J-36 & J-50. USA: 5th-generation fighter jets as the world benchmark — F-35. India: 4th-generation fighter jet program still brewing — Tejas Mk2. Final verdict: India wins the Aviation Tortoise Awards 2026.

中国：为了世界和平的第六代战斗机——J36和J50。美国：作为世界标杆的第五代战斗机——F35。印度：还在酝酿中的第四代战斗机项目——光辉Mk2。最终结论：印度荣获2026年度航空乌龟奖。

 

Bkskumar75
Definetly Stealth capability of jet will not have an edge in the coming future. Advanced radars will make stealth no use. India should also rethink about multimillion AMCA project.

战机的隐身能力在未来肯定不会再有什么优势了。先进雷达会让隐身变得毫无用处。印度也该重新考虑一下那个耗资巨大的AMCA项目了。

 

thomasqvarnstrom3404
The U.S. can't even manufacture one F-35 without Chinese rare earths.

没有中国的稀土，美国连一架F35都造不出来。

 

HeadShotMagnet11
China needs USA because U.S is number 1 consumer of chinese product.

中国需要美国，因为美国是中国产品的头号消费者。

 

ahsi3494
Can you imagine US already loss 48 reaper drone in Iran war worth close to $850 mil

你能想象吗？美国在伊朗战争中已经损失了48架“死神”无人机，价值接近8.5亿美元。

 

ibrahimabdullahrahmetali260
I think these heat seaking missiles are also able to shoot down Tejas.

我觉得这些红外制导导弹也能打下来印度的“光辉”战机。

 

lionrock2023
Nonsense. John McCain promised us this plane from the mid 2000s will dominate the skies until 2050 and beyond

胡说八道。约翰·麦凯恩早就跟我们保证过，从2000年代中期开始，这款飞机就能统治天空，一直到2050年甚至更久。

 

tyberius95
I dont know if this is true or not .. but the Iran war is certainly an opportunity for China to get all kinds of information. I heard the same thing with the Ukraine war where the US gets to test all their advanced weapons.

我不知道这是真是假……但伊朗战争对中国来说确实是个收集各种情报的好机会。我听说乌克兰战争也是类似的情况，美国在那边测试他们所有的先进武器。

 

patrickllt
There's no way to tell how obsolete the F35 and F22 will be. UNTIL there's a direct clash between US and China. Since china will never sell such technology

除非中美直接发生冲突，否则根本没法知道F35和F22到底会变得多过时。因为中国永远不会卖这类技术。

 

Bruce-x4x
Or murica can just sell to India. India need to keep their monthly kpi crashing of planes

或者美国直接把飞机卖给印度嘛。反正印度也需要保持每月摔飞机的KPI。

 

bingtoledo6970
Same thing US will hunt Chinese Stealth the feeling is mutual .

同样道理，美国也会去追踪中国的隐身战机，彼此彼此。

 

anonanon7235
Which is why the airspace above Iran remains contested. The US has no air dominance, they can only use stand off weapons or risk losing aircraft.

这就是为什么伊朗上空的制空权仍然存在争议。美国没有空中优势，他们只能使用防区外武器，否则就得冒损失飞机的风险。

 

hnniceguy
If Iran could down some F35s, maybe India could buy some parts from Iran

如果伊朗能打下来几架F35，也许印度还能从伊朗那儿买点零件呢。

 

jakelee6699
China does nothing? "Oh look, the Chinese are cold-hearted, just sitting there watching the world burn." China sells a few hundred janky shoulder-fired missiles that can barely hit a slow drone? "Oh look, the Chinese are stirring up trouble, funding terrorism, getting Iran and America to kill each other, and dragging the whole world down with it." Classic damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't.

东大什么都不做？“哦看呐，东大真冷血，就坐那儿看着世界燃烧。”中国卖了几百枚破肩扛导弹，连慢速无人机都未必打得中？“哦看呐，东大又在挑事，资助恐怖主义，让伊朗和美国互相残杀，还要把全世界都拖下水。”典型的怎么做都挨骂。

 

W.peaceHonestPoliticianMsmBack
The US under Israels command got what they asked for, attacks on countries without legit reasons. Turning their back to international law's and human ri hts, of course countries who is intended to stay independent have to join together with a military agreement. They started a weapon race...

美国在以色列的指挥下，得到了他们自找的结果，毫无正当理由地攻击别国。背弃国际法和人*，那些想保持独立的国家当然得通过军事协议联合起来。是他们挑起了军备竞赛

 

worldtravel9967
Kinda funny how America bombed Iran with impunity and China is nowhere to be found

有点好笑，美国肆无忌惮地轰炸伊朗，而中国却连影子都看不到。

 

mosesmwima4769
China busy progressing as others sleepless all nights over China

中国忙着发展进步，而其他人则为了中国彻夜难眠。

 

cobracommander.1958
Iran proved that the f35 is not invinsible

伊朗证明了F35并不是无敌的。

 

BillBillu-o6o
But amca ahead of china technology proven jet saar

但是AMCA可是技术领先于中国的、经过验证的战机哦

 

NellStar-i3k
America F 35 hype over nations that dont have any tactical weapons to counter jet fighter like Afghanistan, African , Middleast where people uses intermediate arms weapon to defend air territories. For tha las t some decade they rule over the weak countries that dont have any anti jet fighter missiles. All form of jet fighter are vulnerable to missiles

美国F35也就是在那些没有任何战术武器能对抗战斗机的国家面前耍威风，比如阿富汗、非洲、中东那些还用轻武器来防空的地方。过去几十年，他们就是靠这个欺负那些没有防空导弹的弱国。所有类型的战斗机，在导弹面前都是脆弱的。

 

georgeyawopoku4639
BS, If Iran have destroyed and downed F35 or whatever, How much more China who controls almost all the material rare earth now find away to counter The so called F35. Funny

扯淡。如果伊朗都能摧毁或者击落F35什么的，那中国现在几乎控制着所有稀土材料，更有办法来对付所谓的F35了。真搞笑。

 

worldtravel9967
I thought China wasn’t a threat

我还以为中国不是威胁呢。