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新型F-47战机会是美军下一代制空作战的核心装备,中国媒体就此发声,评价中夹杂着嘲讽和质疑

China Is Already Mocking America’s F-47 Fighter

中国已然开始调侃美军F-47战斗机

The U.S. Air Force’s new F-47 fighter is supposed to be the centerpiece of America’s next generation of air dominance. But Chinese state media is already weighing in, and its reaction is a mix of mockery, skepticism, and quiet concern.

In this episode, we break down what China is saying about the F-47, why Beiing is focusing so heavily on Boeing’s struggles, and why the aircraft’s range, stealth, manned-unmanned teaming, and rare earth supply chain could matter in a future fight over the Taiwan Strait or South China Sea.

China may be mocking the F-47 now, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t watching closely.

美国空军新型F-47战机本应是美军下一代制空作战的核心装备,但中国官方媒体已经就此发声,评价中夹杂着嘲讽、质疑与暗藏的警惕。

中方针对F-47的各类观点、中方为何紧盯波音公司的项目困境,以及这款战机的航程、隐身性能、有人/无人协同作战能力和稀土供应链,在未来台海、南海相关冲突中可能带来的影响。

中方虽然在调侃F-47,却也在密切关注这款战机的发展动向。

以下是各国网友的评论:

lamarkingram5320
Not gonna lie, 'sponsored by General Atomics' is a big flex. haha

实话实说,视频由通用原子公司冠名赞助,属实很有排面,哈哈。

 

TitaniumOg-t2e
Try sponsored by the U s government.

要是换成美国政府全额赞助那才够分量。

 

michaelpfister1283
Pretty sure a lot of folks said the same things about the F-22, the F-35, the B-2 and the B-21. :-/ Maybe we should be happy they think its a boondoggle.

当初F-22、F-35、B-2、B-21面世时,也有一大堆人吐槽项目烧钱没用。说不定我们反倒该庆幸中方觉得这款战机是赔钱烂项目。

 

eldridgedavis
That's one way to look at a boondoggle..

这也算是看待烂尾项目的一种思路吧。

goldenhate6649
@eldridgedavis given how locked down just the building of the factory has gotten, no, its not

单看配套工厂的落地建设就困难重重,这机型根本算不上鸡肋项目。

 

doc0core
If you are young enough you can make history up anyway you want. No one in China called American combat aircraft boondonggle until F-35 went into production, and then congress cut production targets, and turned into a ugly and public political fight. Some time in or after mid-00 I think. No one in China (esp. anyone close to the Co unist Party) thought that Chinese advanced weaponry is even competitive with the West until maybe five years ago.

年纪小就容易随意篡改过往史实。F-35量产、美国国会砍产能、陷入公开政坛扯皮之后,中国才开始点评美军战机项目亏损,这事大概发生在2005年前后。五年之前,国内相关业内人士压根不认为中国高端武器能和西方同台比拼。

 

MuhammadRidwan-pe7ny
yeah good thing USA had its own indigenous Rare-earth industry now, so all of those fancy toys can be built quickly

好在美国如今建起本土稀土产业链,这些高精尖战机才能快速量产。

 

georgeburns7251
Well, they did say the same thing about the XB-70, the B-58, the F-111, and the B-1. So I guess you are correct.

早年XB-70、B-58、F-111、B-1立项时也全是质疑声,你说得没错。

 

danielch6662
The F-47 will never fly. By the time it is ready whoever is President would have renamed it to F-48 or F-49

F-47大概率没法顺利试飞,等研发落地,换任总统说不定直接改名F-48或者F-49。

 

MoreBollocks-ui2zs
The concern about engine development seems to forget that these have been in development for exsting 5th gen platforms including test flights on the F-35 before the USAF moved to another option. Regardless, they aren't starting form scratch on these engines.

不少人担忧发动机研发受阻,却忽略相关技术早已伴随五代机研发多年,美军敲定新方案前,相关引擎还在F-35上完成过试飞,研发并非从零起步。

 

weilam03
we learned from making a jet before the engine was ready. China made the same mistake with the j20.

美军吃过机身造完、发动机没落地的亏,中国研制歼20时也踩过同款坑。

 

amedv
What? No coupon code for General Atomics Mojave STOVL? What kind of ad is that?

什么?通用原子的莫哈维短距起降机型居然没放优惠码?这广告做得太敷衍了。

 

tanker335
All I want to know is do they have financing and how much is the sales tax?

我就想问问购机能不能分期、税费要交多少。

 

jamesogden7756
Don't care. I want a few. I have some cities that need this solution.

别的不管,我想入手几架,我管辖的几座城市正缺这类装备。

 

MrGriff305-d3u
Oh No. America's biggest rival says mean things.

哎哟糟了,头号竞争对手出言嘲讽我们了。

 

atrickotis3884
How do I know we don't have anti-gravity?
Because China hasn't stolen it yet.

怎么确定美国没掌握反重力技术?很简单,中国还没偷走这项技术呢。

 

lisaroberts8556
They did try to kidnap an American Scientist who was working on Anti-Gravity technology. This was about 15 years ago.

大概十五年前,中方曾试图绑架研究反重力技术的美国科学家。

 

MuhammadRidwan-pe7ny
yeah good thing USA had its own indigenous Rare-earth industry now, so all of those fancy toys can be built quickly

好在美国本土稀土产业成型,各类高端军机才能高效投产。

 

m2003h
Those Are good thoughts

观点说得挺在理。

 

martindione386
understating China might be the last mistake the US make

低估中国,或许会成为美国最后一个重大失误。

 

sambassil7825
All they think about is how to copy it.

中方满脑子就想着仿制。

 

kickass-eu1dh
thats ALL chinese think about. They had VERY FEW original inventions, and ALL of them happend THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO. they think thats more efficients...still NOT wanting to acknowledge basic philosophical/technological truths of today like: If ya dont UNDERSTAND a piece of high tech, and you tryna copy it only for the sake of using it CHEAPLY, youll NEVER grasp aND USE it to its full potential. Not to talk abt what such a frame of mind DOES to you as a society, when it comes to GENUINE innovations/inventions. ( I just love my caps locked^^)

 

M
That’s good that we haven’t heard about it. The Chinese wants to steel it!

相关技术消息捂得严实是好事,免得被中国窃取。

 

borninMaine
China stole the plans before we made the first one I'll Bet

我打赌,原型机还没造出来,图纸就已经被中国偷走了。

 

asnainjahangir-e1m
I think the US is going to be copying now son. The 2 Chinese 6th gen fighters have been flying around for quite some time. Meanwhile, the US has only released AI generated pictures of their "6th-gen fighter" .

现在反倒轮到美国跟风仿制了。中国两款六代机早已试飞多时,美国所谓六代机却只放出AI生成的概念图。

 

RobertWest-m5j
China’s opinion is meaningless. Nobody knows enough about it to even have an opinion yet.

中方的评价没有参考价值,眼下没人能摸清这款战机全貌,任何点评都不算数。

 

rayoyv
China doesn't have a true 5th generation bird, let alone a 6th.

中国连正经五代机都造不出来,更别提六代机了。

 

ChadThundertalk
I’d like to think so too, but the J-20 is capable. Only fools would downplay it with cope.

我也想这么认为,但歼20实力摆在那,刻意贬低就是自欺欺人。

 

francismacomber4650
I guess China isn’t too down on Boeing. They just committed to buy 700 of their passenger planes.

看样子中国并没全盘否定波音,刚敲定采购700架波音民航客机。

 

trevornorman7563
try 200 and will be near to 100 by the time they start delivery

实际订单也就200架,等到交付时说不定只剩100架。

 

JoshyHuh
Meanwhile no one wants to buy chinese weapons

反观中国武器,根本没国家愿意采购。

 

eldridgedavis
Because they buy everything else from them..

各国别的物资全从中国进口,自然不用再添置中式军备。

 

twoduces195
It’s never wise to underestimate an opponent Chinese weapon calibrates have been tested somewhat recently in a skirmish with Pakistan and India while we don’t know how those systems will preform at scale it’s at least a threat worth considering

 

addamriley5452
@twoduces195 they were also tested in Venezuela and Iran and it’s not looking good…

委内瑞拉、伊朗也用过中式武器,实战表现一言难尽。

 

dookiepost
This isn't even remotely true. Plenty of countries buy Chinese weapons, and they have been proven to be quite effective both in capabilities and cost.

纯属瞎说,不少国家常年采购中国军火,性价比和实战性能都经过验证。

 

HackedToaster
Funny coming from a country that gate keeps its weapon and jets that have a kill switch built in

这话从美国嘴里说出来很可笑,美军外销战机全内置远程锁机装置,牢牢把控技术。

 

yojimbo3681
Meanwhile they've been wrecking Rafales and Eurofighter Typhoons in dog fights.

演习格斗中,中式战机多次击败阵风、台风战机。

 

Anarchy_420
Names for The F-47-
Lightningbolt, Indoraptor, Demigod, Archangel, Terminator, Dragonslayer, Watcher, Skybreaker, Ghostfire, Wraith, Magician, Banshee, Avatar, and Goldwing!

给F-47备选命名:霹雳、迅猛龙、半神、大天使、终结者、屠龙者、守望者、破穹、鬼火、幽灵、术士、女妖、化身、金翼。

 

aptironsight
Hope the Chinese havent sold their solid rocket feul and replaced it with water.

但愿中方别把固体火箭燃料兑水糊弄外销。

 

dinn666
The entire US procurement system needs to be scrapped and rebuilt.

美国整套军工采购体系该推倒重改。

 

mikeymmike
From a country that can’t make a jet engine?

一个连航空发动机都造不明白的国家也配指点美国?

 

Retly2G
Kinda funny how China is “mocking” the F-47 when their so called “6th” gen aircraft are using 4th gen technology.

中方嘲讽F-47实在滑稽,自家号称六代机,内核还用着四代机技术。

 

WolfeSaber
I'm an amateur mechanical engineer, though I have the degree, and I can come up with stuff better than China for the US to use. I joke that I'm going to create the F-51 Hawk for the counterpart for the F-47 Phoenix.

 

atilliar
Ah the T-38/ F-5. The greatest MiG ever made.

T38、F5堪称美式打造的最优秀米格系战机。

 

baahcusegamer4530
China is impressed. They will not admit it. No surprises there as they are all about appearances and have no shame about deception.

中方内心其实很忌惮这款战机,只是死不承认,向来好面子、惯于隐瞒真实想法。

 

clarkchase28
Large size does not necessarily mean low maneuverability. Look at the SU-35, it is a large aircraft and is extremely agile. Depending on what roll the United States wants the new fighter to fill will determine the final design. I think it will be an amazing aircraft and the fact that so little is known about it, highlights the possible revolutionary design specs. In addition, the Unites States have been working on this new engine for a while now and most likely will be ready intime to install in this new jet.

机体尺寸大不代表机动性差,苏35体型硕大却格外灵活。F-47最终构型取决于美军作战定位,这款新机大概率亮点满满,现阶段保密严格恰恰说明设计有突破性。配套发动机也研发多年,能赶上战机装机节点。

 

Anarchy_420
I'm thinking- thrust vectoring, seamless flex wings, airflow control, shape morphing, and even ionizing the air in areas for maneuverability!

我预想搭载矢量引擎、无缝变形翼、气流主动调控、机体形变,局部空气电离来提升机动性能。

 

Squirrel_Alt_Delete
best person to replace cappy ever, i would say though you can probably slow up on announcing your email at the end of every video and just drop it in the description while mentioning it from time to time if you're caught up. major props for kee it up but you need to get a break at some point too bud.

博主是接替卡皮最合适的人选,不用每期片尾都报邮箱,放在简介里偶尔提一句就行。坚持更新很不容易,记得抽空休息。

 

JayshriDandge-e7x
i stopped watching this channel after cappy left, this is the first video i watched after he left

卡皮离职后我就取关了,这是我时隔许久第一次点开频道视频。

 

BH-ci1xo
Tell China we’ll listen to their opinions when they can produce a decent airline engine

等中国造出靠谱民航发动机,再来指点美军战机。

 

Kafir420
china has nothing to flex...cvid was the longest anything 'made in china' ever lasted!

中国没什么值得炫耀,新冠相关产品算是中国制造撑得最久的品类了。

 

rusticbox9908
Great, then nothing to be afride of.

那挺好,我们就没什么可忌惮的。

 

mikepatton8691
You forgot to mention Boeing's complete disaster that was the Starliner, the supposed competitor to SpaceX's Dragon. That program has basically been shelved due to how much money Boeing was losing on that program.

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