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第六代战机竞赛升温,印度寻求加入英法战机项目

6th-Gen Race Heats Up: India Eyes UK-France Fighter Jet Projects

第六代战机竞赛升温:印度寻求加入英、法战机项目

India is in advanced talks to join a European sixth-generation fighter jet programme—either the UK-led GCAP or France-led FCAS.

This marks a major shift in India's air power strategy as global militaries move toward next-generation warfare capabilities, including AI-driven combat systems, stealth dominance, and drone wingmen.

印度正就加入欧洲第六代战斗机计划展开深入谈判,备选方案为英国主导的全球作战空中计划(GCAP)或法国主导的未来战斗航空系统(FCAS)。

随着全球各国军队向新一代作战能力转型——包括人工智能驱动的作战系统、隐身优势以及无人僚机技术,此举标志着印度空中力量战略迎来重大转变。

以下是印度网友的评论:

antojose6902
India needs invest heavily on Figtier jets coming years India needs 897 5th 6th fighter jets ready in year 2035

印度未来几年必须大力投入战机研发,到2035年要列装897架第五代、第六代战斗机。

 

RockNRoll-r9k
Soon India will have all kind of medicines. 6th gen for China. 5th gen for Pakistan, 4th gen for Bangladesh. Based on a patient India will give medicine.

很快印度就会有各种“良药”。中国用六代机,巴基斯坦用五代机,孟加拉国用四代机。看在“病友”份上,印度会“对症下药”。

 

imadkhaliq2941
And source code for none

但核心源代码谁都别想拿到。

 

shiishinchiu6636
Learn to walk before you can run.

我们得先学会走,再学跑。

 

johnnydoe3603
Brilliant Planning from Modi ji. No 5th Gen and No 6th Gen and Not even 4.5 Gen for 5 Years.

莫迪这规划真是“高明”。五年过去了,五代机、六代机没有,就连四代半战机都造不出来。

 

bobsacamano4648
Not slightly ahead Angad. GCAP prototype planned for 2028, FCAS still on paper, and Germany just left the project. GCAP is the only sensible option, time is running out.

根本不是领先一点。GCAP计划2028年出原型机,FCAS还停留在图纸上,德国还刚退出项目。选GCAP才是明智之举,时间不多了。

 

MK802-b1d
Organisations like HAL and DRDO are full of incompetent babus. They come to office drink tea, do nothing, Draw salary and go back home. One cannot rely on such incompetent companies for cutting edge research

印度斯坦航空(HAL)和国防研究发展组织(DRDO)里全是无能的官员。上班就喝茶、混日子,领完工资就下班。前沿技术研发根本指望不上这些人。

ich.onion123
Can't blame drdo. But hal worst.

不能怪DRDO,但HAL是真的烂。

shubhamnibe3225
You can blame HAL but not DRDO because there are many other projects that DRDO is working on and they have success

可以怪HAL,但别怪DRDO。DRDO还在搞很多其他项目,而且是有成果的。

aaaaaad100
DRDO develops tech that nobody shares with us

DRDO研发的都是别人不肯卖给我们的技术。

KnowledgeHunt-rk5jf
You are describing every person in the job market right now That is way they prepare for government job for years because public is slee

你说的就是现在职场所有人的样子。这就是大家挤破头考公务员的原因,反正民众也不管。

 

Trademm
They are delivering what they paid for, senior scientists are paid not more than few laks

给多少钱干多少活,资深科学家工资一年也就几十万卢比。

 

yunshenghe932
You can blame no one but India's industrial capability.

要怪就怪印度自身的工业水平不行。

 

Abhi-ph9fz
Incompetent saved you some months back and still doing that else people would hv become a feet licking servant of the backstabbers.....the problem is not HAL or DRDO , it the internal traitors, anti-nationals and people who cannot see any good and do not support the country except blaming..

正是这些你口中“无能的人”之前救过国家,不然我们早成叛徒的走狗了,问题不在HAL和DRDO,而在国内的叛徒、卖国贼,还有那些只会抹黑、不支持国家的人。

 

yunshenghe932
India eyed Russian fifth gen fighters during its design. What happened? It is day dream to have others most advanced tech not yet developed.

印度当初还盯着俄罗斯的五代机项目,结果呢?想拿到别人还没搞成的顶尖技术,简直是白日做梦。

 

kgmuralidharan07
Good. It would be a mutually beneficial partnership, given that India is economically strong at present and experiencing a robust growth trajectory.

挺好的。现在印度经济强劲、增长迅猛,这种合作能实现双赢。

 

sanjeevsen849
Rather India should invest in drone warfare and counter drone technologies

印度不如重点投入无人机作战和反无人机技术。

 

sathishkumar8654
AMCA still in trade fair and exhibitions? Suck out money from sincere tax payers and make them run dry let loose who don’t pay tax. Where is the money for R&D? Poor and slow decision making because of incompetent people on top in all PSUs.

印度先进中型战机(AMCA)还只会在展会上摆着吗?只会榨干诚实纳税人的钱,却放过那些不缴税的人。研发资金从哪来?所有国企高层无能,导致决策又差又慢。

 

Viewer5161
That's not a bad idea

这主意不错。

 

SumitYadav-no7pu
Actually developer and responsibilities taken person take time and some want that profits after sale

其实真正搞研发、担责任的人需要时间,有些人就只想卖完赚钱。

 

paulm.k.8740
Aren't we in the same situation when we went to war with China with .303 rifles and such primitive weapons, in 1962?

我们这不就跟1962年拿着老式步枪跟中国打仗一个处境吗?

 

zertexz574
partner ? India cant make 4th gen what they can do for 6th gen lol

合作?印度连四代机都造不出来,还想搞六代机,哈哈。

 

warnpassion
We lack the experience to build a cutting-edge fighter aircraft and aircraft engines. We seem to have the patient capital required to deliver the aforesaid two products now, but the experience will only come by getting actively involved in real-world projects.

我们缺乏研发顶尖战机和航空发动机的经验。现在我们倒是有长期投入的资金,但经验只能靠真正参与实际项目才能积累。

 

nm380
India has built 4.5 gen Tejas MK1A and the 4.7+ gen Tehas MK2, unlike failed state Pakistan that only begs the world for free arms and paint the JF blunder in green, and cannot even manufacture a nut bolt.

印度已经造出了4.5代光辉MK1A和4.7+代光辉MK2。不像巴基斯坦那个失败国家,只会满世界乞讨武器,把JF-17涂成绿色就当自己造的,连个螺丝都造不出来。

 

m.n.d1543
Indian government & media also 5 years news running

印度政府和媒体这消息都炒了五年了。

 

vickichumuk
We can keep eyeing and at the pace we move, we'll probably get a test flight by late 2030s. China has already flown J36 as of 2024 and will have a full fleet in the next 8 years. The average production speed is 40-50 aircraft per year for each generation of aircraft. I hope HAL delivers all its Tejas aircraft by 2040, directly into the museum.

我们就继续观望吧,以这速度,2030年代末能首飞就不错了。中国2024年就试飞了歼-36,未来8年就能形成完整机队。每代战机年均产量40-50架。希望HAL到2040年把光辉造出来,直接送进博物馆。

 

amingwithshubham2848
Hmesa dekhna hi to hai.... Jb -40 wale number ko chunoge aur 90 wale ko hataoge to yehi haal hoga

从来都是这样,选庸人、弃能人,结果就只能这样。

 

ze9947
Currently, all cutting-edge scientific and technological advancements are controlled by China and the United States, while Europe has fallen far behind in almost all technological fields, except for French handbags.

如今所有顶尖科技都被中美掌控,欧洲除了法国包包,几乎在所有科技领域都大幅落后。

 

imadkhaliq2941
New sci-fi movie . Great story

新科幻大片吧,剧本不错。

 

michaelsrinivasaiah2791
when u depend on your fighter jet engine to come from other country, you cant do anything.

战机发动机还要靠进口,你就什么都干不成。

 

deepmedsing9961
The question is whether FCAS or Tempest programs are going to survive without India's "Chanda". IYKYK. IDC what legacy media is telling you, let me be clear, INDIA is in the driving seat over here. We call the shots now.

问题是,没有印度的“捐款”,FCAS和“暴风雨”项目还能不能活下去。懂的都懂。不管传统媒体怎么吹,我直说:现在印度才是主导方,我们说了算。

 

COSMICTUNECOMM
We are Slee with Tejas heritage and vintage system of Russia. Rafael F5 2030 numbers required for IAF Navy 200+100. ORCA TEDBF OMCA. Because of government liable for the mod DRDO ISRO PSU

我们还在抱着光辉战机和俄罗斯老旧系统过日子。到2030年,印度空军和海军需要200多架阵风、100多架F5,还有ORCA、TEDBF、OMCA这些项目。这都要靠政府、DRDO、ISRO和国企来负责。

 

Rahul-dream2reality
ATLEAST WE AS NATION STARTED IT.....THOUGHT IT........MADE FRIENDS.....TOOK A STAND.......REPLYING WHICH WORLD IS LISTENING.......SOON LONG GAP WILL BE FILLED IN NO TIME.........JETS TIME WILL BE OVER SHORTLY.....CHEAP , DEADLY , UNMANNED, ALL BEST TECH INCLUSIVE IS COMMING MAY BE 7 TH GEN WHERE INDIA IS THINKING

至少我们国家开始行动了,有了想法、结交了伙伴、表明了立场,全世界都在听我们的声音。用不了多久,差距就能补上。有人驾驶战机的时代很快就会过去,廉价、致命、无人、集顶尖技术于一体的装备就要来了,或许印度能直接瞄准第七代。

 

MMR-s4t
India should buy the F35

印度应该买F-35。

 

enigmas5441
We are not not able to produce Tejash MK2, AMCA - but dreaming for Six Gen

我们连光辉MK2、AMCA都造不出来,还在做梦搞六代机。

 

Dr.PK18
Iran isn't having any stealth….who is loosing expensive missiles?….cheap drones causing more damage

伊朗根本没有隐身战机,可谁在浪费昂贵的导弹?廉价无人机造成的伤害更大。

 

RockyLixn
This is European program india only make gobar chip for radiation

这是欧洲人的项目,印度也就只能造点防辐射的垃圾芯片。

 

SrAuNz
Just up until recently we were talking about Russia's SU-57. It looks like the daily decision about future generations depends upon the colour of the pill the Indian Ministry chairman is taking. If it is red "we are going with Russia". If it is yellow "we are going with the West". Is anything gonna work out?

前段时间还在说俄罗斯苏-57。看来印度国防部选下一代战机,全看负责人当天吃什么药。红色就选俄罗斯,黄色就选西方。这能成什么事?

 

rau1944
I have heard that the Europeans do not want India to be fully involved; only periferal involvement. Is that true?

我听说欧洲不想让印度深度参与,只让印度打打下手,是真的吗?

 

shoaibmohammad8114
Ye gadha presenter hamesha faltu excitement padhata hai, par hota kuch ni hai. Bas sab apne paise chapne main lage hi

这个蠢主播天天瞎激动,什么实际进展都没有。大家就只顾着捞钱。

 

zenzo4815
All that all-alliance is being used now finnally trying to partner up with others late then never, i think that's the best choice they hv made in a while

现在都讲结盟,印度终于想跟别人合作了,虽晚但总比不做好,这是他们最近做的最正确的决定。

 

unhandled776
AMCA still makes sense. Just like our own Tejas makes sense. When you control a platform you can produce hundreds of those birds. You aren't dependent on partners who may run out of money or interest or may turn against you with changing geopolitics. We are a $4T growing economy at 7%. We can easily set aside $100B over 10 years on both these programs. And we will be better off learning about 6G while manufacturing our 5G so we can build our own 7G. We shouldn't have been here but we cant go back and erase Congress from 1947. This is the only good option.

AMCA项目依然有意义,就像我们的光辉战机一样。自己掌握平台,才能批量生产几百架。不用依赖那些可能缺钱、没兴趣,或者因为地缘政治翻脸的合作伙伴。我们是4万亿美元体量、增速7%的经济体,10年里轻松拿出100亿美元投这两个项目没问题。我们边造五代机,边学六代机技术,以后就能自己造七代机。我们本不该落到这步田地,但也没法抹去国大党从1947年以来的所作所为。这是现在唯一的好选择。

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