越南是否正在向中国靠拢

Is Vietnam Drifting Closer Toward China?

越南是否正在向中国靠拢？

Ties between China and Vietnam appear to be improving across every front. Vietnam is selling more to China, while China is investing more in its southern neighbor. Even on thorny territorial issues in the South China Sea, the two sides said they're talking through their differences.

And last month, Vietnamese leader To Lam traveled to China in his capacity as both General Secretary of the Co unist Party and President of the country, a model many say was inspired by the Chinese political structure.

All of this has prompted discussion among some Vietnamese analysts that Hanoi is swinging in Beiing's direction.

But Khang Vu, a visiting scholar in Vietnamese political science at Boston College, strongly disagrees. Khang joins Eric to discuss why Hanoi's longstanding commitment to non-alignment among the major powers remains the bedrock of Vietnamese foreign policy.

中越两国各领域关系似乎都在持续回暖。越南对华出口规模不断扩大，中国也加大了对这个南方邻国的投资力度。即便是在南海棘手的领土争端问题上，双方也表示会通过对话化解分歧。

上个月，越南领导人苏林以越共中央总书记、双重身份访华，不少观点认为，这种任职模式借鉴了中国的政治体制。

这一系列动向，也让越南部分分析人士开始讨论：河内方面正逐渐倒向中国。

但波士顿学院越南政治学访问学者武康对此观点并不认同。为何越南长期奉行的大国不结盟立场，至今仍是越南外交政策的基石。

以下是各国网友的评论：

woofofallstreet
American weapons are expensive and its’ performance in Iran has devalued its’ efficacy.

美国武器售价昂贵，在伊朗战场的实际表现，也让它的实战含金量大打折扣。

willengel2458
you missed the single most important point. US has total control over its use.
there is still exsted south and north VN not visible to the naked eye. when K Harris visited VN she visited NED there

你漏掉了最关键的一点，美国能完全掌控这些武器的使用权限。

越南南北对立的格局其实依旧暗中存在，只是表面看不出来。哈里斯访问越南期间，还私下接触了当地的国家民诸基金会势力。

caneestudio
Vietnam is a country to look out for not India.

真正值得外界重点关注的是越南，而不是印度。

SengpoSatbang
Absolutely. Vietnam's future is bright.
endia has no future.

说得没错，越南未来发展前景一片大好，印度根本没有前途可言。

gaywardebichui
@keegan-g3s Vietnam is not small; it's even much larger than Europe.lol

越南一点都不算小，版图甚至比欧洲不少地区都大，太搞笑了。

BetterWorld-d4v
After native Americans, the Vietnamese probably suffered the most from US settler violence and hubris. And they have a very long civilization with a long memory.

在美洲原住民之后，越南人大概是受美国殖民欺压与傲慢伤害最深的民族。越南文明历史悠久，也深深铭记着过往的苦难。

kaamckenzie10
One of the largest genocide on a civilization in the last 500 years!

这堪称近五百年来，针对一个文明最惨烈的种族灭绝事件之一。

Choose2SaveHumanity
Not a competition in suffering for me but do throw in African slavery by western US colonisers. A people kidnapped, exploited, abused, murdered and finally abandoned after their identity is robbed from them.
Both countries have similar political leanings and experience with imperialism. Vietnam knows China is a safer, more trustworthy partner. The US is just a sadistic, perverse entity that respect no one and has no loyalty or friends.

我不想比较谁的遭遇更悲惨，但也不能忽略欧美殖民者贩卖非洲黑奴的历史。非洲民众被掳掠、压榨、残害、屠杀，身份被剥夺后还遭到无情抛弃。

中越两国政治取向相近，都有遭受帝国主义侵害的经历。越南清楚，中国是更可靠、更值得信任的伙伴。而美国冷酷霸道、行事扭曲，不尊重任何国家，也没有真正的盟友。

eymeeraosaka2954
Vietnam aligning its Foreign Policy with the US? You must be dreaming.....? How is this possible when Vietnam is a Country? It is a neighbor of China too? What about the Vietnam War? Vietnam is merely pursing its own self-interest but with a caveat. Make sure its Foreign Policy don't pose a threat to the Elephant next door...and getting close to the US certainly fit this criteria.

越南会在外交上倒向美国？简直是痴心妄想。越南是社会主义国家，又是中国的邻国，还有越战的历史恩怨，怎么可能靠拢美国？越南只是单纯谋求自身利益，同时守住底线：外交政策不能得罪身边的大国，而适度亲近美国，刚好契合这种平衡策略。

gh926-e8s
Vietnam spent decades getting rid of the French colonialism and fought the Americans in Vietnam war straight after the French left. The people in Vietnam have not forgotten the brutality with napalms agent orange and war crime. There are museums in Vietnam everywhere reminding people of its horrific history. It’s completely different to Japan because Japan surrendered and it was taken over and controlled by the US for years. Vietnam won the war 1975 and the Americans withdrew 1973, the last thing Vietnam wants is seeing US bases back again by invitation? Nuts?? Apocalypse Now again !!!!
Having seen the Iran war past 6 weeks especially the bombing and killing of 165 Iranian school girls remind so many people around the world of the horrific US history of war crime such as My Lai massacre and their Apache helicopter slaughtering 12 Iraqi civilians in Baghdad. There are so many war crimes that were swept under the carpets just because they had power to invade and attack. But the world is waking up to all its history today with the internet nothing can be hidden. Whether this will help to stop future illegal invasions it’s difficult to apprehend. The Iranian school was stuck by double tap Tomahawk missiles, whether the coordinations were given from Israel nobody knows and this will be swept under the carpet like the others. Didn’t Hegseth get reprimanded last week at the senate hearing for giving out orders to shoot to kill? He denied it. No wonder genocide continues. Have gun will travel from the wild West!
Napalm bombs. Agent Orange and war crime. Even Hollywood movies documented many events. Horrific My Lai massacre was swept under the carpet but that was one of many thousands. Ask some of the US Vietnam veterans still recovering from their actions they took in shame. But people never learn? Stone Age the whole civilisation and 165 school girls in Minab for going to school? Unforgivable but karma will pay one day.

越南耗费数十年挣脱法国殖民统治，法国人刚撤走，就和美国打响了越南战争。越南民众从未忘记凝固汽油弹、橙剂以及各种战争罪行带来的伤痛，国内随处可见纪念馆，记录这段悲惨历史。越南和日本完全不同，日本战败投降后，长期被美国掌控；而越南1973年逼退美军，1975年赢得战争胜利，绝不可能主动邀请美国重返驻军，难道要重演越战悲剧吗？
过去六周的伊朗战事，尤其是空袭造成165名伊朗女学生遇难，让全世界再次想起美国累累战争罪行：美莱大屠杀、阿帕奇直升机在巴格达枪杀12名伊拉克平民。美国犯下无数战争恶行，过去依靠强权一直刻意掩盖。如今互联网普及，真相再也无法隐藏，全世界都看清了它的真面目。但这能否阻止未来的非法军事入侵，还很难下定论。伊朗学校遭到战斧导弹连环打击，是否有以色列提供目标坐标无从查证，这件事最终大概率也会不了了之。美国防部长赫格塞思上周还因下达格杀令在参议院听证会上被质询，他却矢口否认。也难怪种族屠杀事件接连上演，行事作风就和昔日无法无天的西部牛仔一模一样。

凝固汽油弹、橙剂、战争罪行，就连好莱坞电影都记录了诸多史实。惨烈的美莱大屠杀只是众多惨案之一，却一直被刻意掩盖。问问那些越战美军老兵就知道，很多人至今仍为当年的所作所为满心愧疚。可人类总是不长记性，如今又对伊朗平民痛下杀手，连正常上学的165名女学生都不放过，这种恶行天理难容，终有一天会遭到报应。

ThoreClips10
Vietnam is a business man trying to do business.

越南的处事风格就像精明的生意人，一切只看实际利益。

duncankowable
why would anyone expect Vietnam to swing to a country which committed the MyLai Massacre?

谁会指望越南主动倒向制造美莱大屠杀的美国？根本不可能。

jaec5680
The massacre profoundly damaged the image of the U.S. military and intensified anti-war sentiment in the United States. It led to significant military reforms, including revised training on the law of armed conflict and the responsibility of soldiers to refuse illegal orders.
The Philippines spent 30B on the PCA 2016 ruling for the EEZ as an EEZ. The EEZ grants maritime rights, not sovereignty, but it was promoted as a total victory for sovereignty. Presidential decree is NOT International laws.

这场大屠杀严重败坏美军形象，也加剧了美国国内的反战情绪。此后美国推行大规模军事改革，重新完善武装冲突法相关培训，明确士兵有权拒绝执行非法军令。

菲律宾为推动2016年南海仲裁案、争夺专属经济区权益耗费了300亿资金。专属经济区只享有海洋经济权益，并不等于领土主权，却被菲律宾炒作成主权层面的完胜。而且一国总统政令，根本算不上国际法。

allseeeye
Does "Vietnam war" reminds u anything?

提起越南战争，难道你没有什么感触吗？

GiangHoang-hd8uk
We never forget what was Usa had done in Vietnam 1954-1975. We, and all people until children's understand clearly usa always want cheating Vietnam against China. Now,
Trump brain as children 15 years old in Vietnam

我们永远不会忘记1954到1975年美国在越南犯下的所作所为。我们这代人，甚至孩童都清楚，美国一直想挑拨越南和中国对立。如今特朗普的格局眼界，也就和越南十五岁少年差不多。

onT357
Most SE Asian nations are playing both sides

大多数东南亚国家，都在大国之间两头周旋、左右逢源。

larlar1824
yes .. Vietnam always stay close to China everything . no one love you like you love your brother

没错，越南在各领域始终和中国关系亲近。兄弟般的情谊，没有任何关系能相比。

willengel2458
if not too much trouble. do a search on VN's HSR. they fuked around for decade and still couldn't find someone who would take on the task/contract.

方便的话可以去查一下越南高铁项目。折腾了整整十年，到现在都找不到愿意承接项目的承建方。

HM0985
Complete BS! Vietnam: Its nation or party, and they chose party! I’m Vietnamese btw

纯属胡说八道！越南做事不以国家利益为先，而是优先顾及政党利益。顺便说一句，我本身就是越南人。

ClutchSignify
Vietnam is being pulled towards China by inexorable economic gravity. As a develo country Vietnam needs infrastructure. Since it is dependent on oil imports it would benefit greatly from Chinese ev and green power technology. As a neighbor it is close enough to be integrated into the Chinese supply chain.
Vietnam will be rich.

经济大势在无形之中推动越南向中国靠拢。作为发展中国家，越南急需完善基建；同时它依赖石油进口，中国的新能源、绿色电力技术能给它带来巨大利好。作为邻国，越南地理位置优越，完全可以融入中国的产业链供应链，未来一定会变得富裕。

datnguyen1615
China is no more no less just another hegemony country in the region and then the world. Vietnam do anything as she can to be survival in multiple polarity world.

中国说到底，就是地区乃至全球的霸权国家之一。越南只会尽一切办法，在多极格局中谋求自身生存与发展。

chocomilo1628
yeah sorry vietnam is not innocent either. They support israel

说实话，越南自身也并不清白，它还公开支持以色列。

inconsequencial2546
China is not 'so aggresive towards Philippines' USA is surrounding China...china is trying to protect itself...Chinese Navy rescued fishermen off the coast, saved their lives, the media is silent...USA uses Philippines as amilitary base and brothel...Nothing has been done in all these decades to improve Philippines

中国对菲律宾根本算不上强硬，真正围堵遏制中国的是美国，中国只是在自我防卫。中国海军多次在近海救助遇险渔民，却被媒体刻意低调处理。美国把菲律宾当成军事基地和博弈棋子，几十年来从未真心帮助菲律宾改善民生。

mayamichelle6741
Thank you for this comment. I came to remark similarly. Vietnam has not and will not entertain US military bases and activity within their borders, unlike Philippines, which is just another major US military outpost. That was a ridiculous characterization by the host. smh.

说得太对了，我本来也想发表同样的看法。越南从来不会允许美国在境内设立军事基地、开展军事活动，菲律宾却甘愿沦为美国的前沿军事据点。主持人之前的相关解读太过离谱，实在让人无语。

mishka110
Aligning with the US is fraught with problems historically and in the present. No one with any intelligence would do that and Vietnam is 'smart' so a move closer to China makes good sense on every level.

从历史和现实角度来看，倒向美国隐患重重。但凡有远见的国家都不会这么做，越南本身行事精明，靠拢中国才是各方面都稳妥合理的选择。

harrisng3041
China is, happily strengthening it's economic ties with all ASEAN NATIONS with the exception of the Philippines which is occupied and manipulated by 8 very powerful US military bases

中国一直在稳步和东盟各国加深经济合作，唯独菲律宾例外。菲律宾境内有8座大型美军基地，长期被美国掌控和摆布。

duydatyds
Vietnam stands independent, not shifting, not drifting to any side. We welcome friends and kick out enemies, regardless of who they are.

越南始终坚守独立自主的外交立场，不偏向、不倒向任何一方。交友不分强弱，友善者便接纳，心怀恶意者便抵制。

CM-xy8ow
Vietnam is more aligned with East Asia (China, Japan and Korea) than with
South East Asia. Closer in outlook, culture and work ethic.

越南在思想理念、文化传统和行事作风上，更贴近中日韩东亚国家，而非东南亚本土国家。

upsidedowngarlicbread
Vietnam is part of the Sinosphere but is also a member of ASEAN.

越南属于中华文化圈，同时也是东盟成员国。

kaamckenzie10
Most people don't know this but the reason why the US military never cross 17th parallel with ground troops is because of China. China government told US if they crossed the 17th parallel they would intervene in the war. The US remembers when China Intervine in the Korean War and basically destroyed General MacArthur's military. PVA drove MacArthurs military 300 miles south from the Yalu River down past the 38th parallel. So Vietnam and China have a history against the US aggression.

很多人都不清楚，美军地面部队始终不敢越过越南十七度线，根本原因就是中国。中国明确警告美国，一旦越线就会直接出兵干预越战。美国一直记着朝鲜战争的教训，中国志愿军入朝参战，重创麦克阿瑟麾下的美军。志愿军把美军从鸭绿江向南击退三百英里，一路推过三八线。历史上，中越曾并肩对抗过美国的侵略行径。

haniahannslew4108
Exactly. Without China’s presence, entire Vietnam would have been a colony of USA a long time ago

说得完全没错。如果没有中国的制衡与支撑，越南早就彻底沦为美国的殖民地了。