美媒：特朗普正考虑一项计划，限制各类含美国软件的产品对华出口

Exclusive-US considering curbs on exports to China made with US software, sources say

独家：消息人士称美国正考虑限制含美国软件的产品对华出口

The Trump administration is considering a plan to curb a dizzying array of software-powered exports to China, from laptops to jet engines, to retaliate against Beiing's latest round of rare earth export restrictions, according to a U.S. official and three people briefed by U.S. authorities.

While the plan is not the only option on the table, it would make good on President Donald Trump's threat earlier this month to bar "critical software" exports to China by restricting global shipments of items that contain U.S. software or were produced using U.S. software.

On October 10, Trump said in a social media post that he would impose additional tariffs of 100% on China's U.S.-bound shipments, along with new export controls on "any and all critical software" by November 1 without further details.

一名美国官员及三名知情人士透露，特朗普政府正考虑一项计划，限制各类含软件驱动的产品对华出口——涵盖笔记本电脑到喷气发动机等多个品类，以此报复中国最新一轮稀土出口限制措施。

尽管该计划并非当前唯一备选方案，但它将兑现美国总统唐纳德·特朗普本月早些时候的威胁：通过限制含美国软件或采用美国软件生产的产品的全球运输，禁止向中国出口“关键软件”。

10月10日，特朗普在社交媒体上发文称，将对中国输美商品加征100%的额外关税，并在11月1日前对“所有关键软件”实施新的出口管制，但未透露更多细节。

To be sure, the measure, details of which are being reported for the first time, may not move forward, the sources said.

But the fact that such controls are being considered shows the Trump administration is weighing a dramatic escalation of its showdown with China, even as some within the U.S. government favor a gentler approach, according to two of the sources.

The White House declined to comment. The Commerce Department, which oversees export controls, did not respond to requests for comment.

消息人士指出，这项措施的细节此次为首次披露，且该措施未必会推进实施。

不过，两名消息人士表示，美国政府正考虑此类管制措施这一事实，表明特朗普政府正酝酿大幅升级与中国的对峙——尽管美国政府内部部分人士更倾向于采取温和策略。

白宫拒绝置评。负责监管出口管制的美国商务部也未回应置评请求。

以下是美国雅虎网友的评论：

tuot
Soon china won't need anything from US or EU. But our farmers still need to find a buyer for soybeans.

很快中国就不需要从美国或欧盟买东西了，而我们美国的农民还得找大豆买家呢。

WiseGuy
Do it, Trump, he will single-handily terminate the domination of Apple, Microsoft and Google. Chinese software companies have been dreaming for this moment.

就这么干，特朗普！他这是要亲手终结苹果、微软和谷歌的垄断地位。中国软件公司早就盼着这一天了。

DarKw
do it! then China will have to make their own programs. USA already bans Chinese companies from using Android, so they made Harmony os, make them create software for everything, this will mean Apple and many others will have to leave China!

尽管干！到时候中国就得自己开发软件了。美国不是已经禁止中国企业用安卓了吗？人家马上搞出了鸿蒙系统。要是逼他们把所有软件都自己做出来，那苹果这些公司就得滚出中国了！

Steven
huh? China heavily uses Andriod - it's more popular than any other mobile operating system by a large margin.

哈？中国用安卓用得可多了，比其他移动操作系统都受欢迎，优势大得很。

frank
China uses open sourced softwares based on android. Theres no Google Playstore or any Google services

中国用的是基于安卓的开源软件，没有谷歌应用商店，也没有任何谷歌服务。

Asp U
Pretty sure banning all software hurts the US not China. They have domestic alternatives

我很确定，禁止所有软件出口，受伤的是美国，不是中国。他们有自己的国产替代方案。

Duy
Decoupling is in the work… China will be soon out of US, EU markets if rare earth card is used.

中美脱钩正在进行中，要是中国打出稀土这张牌，很快就会退出美国和欧盟市场了。

frank
Just US. EU is still and will cheerfully deal with China

只有美国会这样。欧盟现在还在跟中国愉快合作，以后也会继续。

frank
And China will simply retaliate with reciprocal export bans. They don't need the US

中国会直接用对等的出口禁令报复，他们根本不需要美国。

john
JUST DO IT. China wants to decouple from US tech ASAP. This will help expedite getting rid of US tech.

尽管干！中国本来就想尽快和美国科技脱钩，这正好能加速摆脱美国技术。

Jay
Lol, isn't this what China wants? Replace all critical American software with domestically made products. If you want to give up the vast China market, go ahead.

哈哈，这不正是中国想要的吗？把所有关键的美国软件都换成国产的。要是你们想放弃庞大的中国市场，尽管放马过来。

Assets
What a joke this is. The Chinese may not have fully caught up on chip-making, but when it comes to writing software...Deepseek is software, written at a fraction of our AI programs. We wanted to buy TikTok because we could not write a better algorithm than the Chinese did, and wanted to steal that one. Will this slow them down? Maybe by a week or two. After that, this administration will suddenly wonder where all that income (from software) disappeared to.

这简直是个笑话。中国人或许在芯片制造上还没完全追上，但说到写软件，深度求索就是他们的软件，研发成本还不到我们人工智能程序的零头。我们当初想收购TikTok，就是因为写不出比中国人更好的算法，想把人家的偷过来。这禁令能拖慢他们吗？或许一两周吧。过了这段时间，美国政府就会突然纳闷：软件带来的收入怎么全没了？

Eric
What have the US and its allies’ sanctions against Russia done for the last 3 years? It will have even more muted effect on China. It will only make China stronger and less dependent on any things from the West.

过去三年，美国及其盟友对俄罗斯的制裁起到了什么作用？这招对中国的效果只会更弱，只会让中国变得更强，对西方的依赖越来越小。

Steven
The US is desperate to find things we make to help offset China's rare earth control. It's a weak hand the US has and China knows it. If we hurt China with things like banning software sales to China, we punch ourselves in the face. We don't build much that we can export, but we do create a lot of great software.

美国急着找自己能出口的东西，好抵消中国对稀土的掌控。美国手里的牌太弱了，中国心里清楚得很。要是我们靠禁止软件对华出口这种方式打击中国，那就是在打自己的脸。我们能出口的实体产品没多少，但确实搞出了很多好软件。

Maxmus
China is leading this industry. They're way out in front with robotics and AI. India is right there with them. Making changes to this industry only makes America pay more not China. China and India aren't in the lead because they can't make software. They're so far ahead, getting more ahead daily, software is meaningless to China and India. Yeah they make it! However, they don't need your software to improve their own. Your software is outdated to China. Big deal you take away some jobs from one part of Asia sending them to another part of Asia. How does that return jobs to America? This is all a game of shifting jobs from one place to another. Still no jobs coming back to America. How did it benefit Americans by shifting Tesla jobs from China to India? American Jobs that can never return home benefitting Americans on American Soil. Investments, insider trading, market crashes, crypto, hackers, daily rip off Americans and it's our own politicians doing it to "We The People." Divided over crime, drugs, immigrants, religion, education, cost of healthcare, it goes on and on while record profits are being made at the expense of American Jobs and Healthcare. The expense of Americans. Sure would be nice if we had jobs in America! Imagine that, "We The People" can't have jobs or Healthcare but record profits can continue to be made while Americans have no jobs. Guess that's how you "Make America Great Again" by taking away more American Jobs. Great job guys and gals!

中国在这个行业是领先的，在机器人和人工智能领域遥遥领先，印度也紧跟其后。对这个行业搞限制，只会让美国多花钱，不会影响中国。中国和印度能领先，不是因为他们不会做软件——他们已经领先太多了，而且每天都在拉开差距，美国软件对他们来说根本不重要。没错，他们自己也做软件！而且，他们不需要靠美国软件来改进自己的技术，你们的软件对中国来说早就过时了。把亚洲某个地方的工作转移到另一个地方，多大点事啊？这怎么能让工作机会回流美国？这根本就是把工作从一个地方挪到另一个地方的游戏，美国还是没得到任何工作机会。

把特斯拉的工作从中国转移到印度，对美国人有什么好处？那些美国岗位再也回不来了，没法让美国本土的美国人受益。投资、内幕交易、市场崩盘、加密货币、黑客攻击——每天都在坑美国人，而干这些事的正是我们自己的政客，对“我们人民”下手。我们因为犯罪、毒品、移民、宗教、教育、医疗成本等问题分裂不休，而有人却以牺牲美国的就业和医疗为代价，赚取创纪录的利润，牺牲的是美国人的利益。要是美国能有工作机会就好了！想想看，“我们人民”找不到工作、看不起病，但有人却能继续赚大钱，美国人没工作也无所谓。看来“让美国再次伟大”就是靠夺走更多美国人的工作啊，各位可真行！

Jay
Many Chinese software companies cannot wait. Win-win for both USA cand China

很多中国软件公司都等不及了。这对美国和中国来说是双赢啊。

Henry J
China can find workarounds through open source everything. Good luck.

中国完全可以通过开源软件找到变通办法，祝你们好运。

Henry J
I heard they were also planning to put controls on items that anybody in the US breathed on top. Wow, going into a full trade war, courtesy of Incompetence Inc.

我听说他们还打算对“美国人呼吸过的物品”进行管控。哇哦，这是要全面开打贸易战啊。

WildAra
Baffled by the justification for "unfunded mandates" by States or the USG. They have no skin in the game and yet they want to run the whole thing, even to overriding those who DO have significant amounts of investment money to lose. All because "We've decided that we don't LIKE those people!" For political or ideological reasons, not for logical and practical ones. DUDES. Who STARTED this trade war with China, and WHY did he do that? And why is Donnie STILL lying to us about whose wallet he's picking those tariff dollars out of?? Tariffs = Import Duties that American BUYERS pay. Yet Donnie pretends otherwise in his giant con, and the Red Evangelicals BELIEVE him. Unbelievable.

我实在搞不懂，美国各州或联邦政府搞“无资金支持的指令”，理由到底是什么。他们自己没投入任何成本，却想掌控一切，甚至要推番那些投入了大笔资金、可能会蒙受损失的人。就因为“我们决定不喜欢那些人”！这完全是出于政治或意识形态原因，毫无逻辑和实际依据。各位，当初是谁先对中国发动贸易战的？他为什么要这么做？还有，特朗普为什么还在撒谎，不肯说关税的钱到底是从谁的钱包里掏的？关税就是进口税，是美国买家在付钱啊！可特朗普却装糊涂，而那些红色福音派信徒居然还信他，简直难以置信。

Jay
More restrictions unless those companies can get them waived by kissing the feet below the swollen ankles.

限制会越来越多，除非那些公司肯去巴结特朗普，舔他那肿胀脚踝下面的脚，才能拿到豁免。

Richard
Ouch, that hurts. But still ain't gonna get any rare earth, without which (1) our vaunted military can't make new high tech weapons - so Israel and Ukraine you're on your own, and no more bombing the Venezuelans or Houthis or Iran or Syria or anyone else because - well, gotta save the stash for when it's actually really needed (2) planes/trains/automobiles - however few that will be made will be $$$$$$$ more - there's no inflation to see here (3) that semiconductor/AI thing - whatever high tech chips that can be made will be ten times more expensive than it is now

哎哟，这招是挺疼，但还是拿不到稀土啊。没有稀土：（1）我们引以为傲的军方造不出新的高科技武器——所以以色列和乌克兰，你们自求多福吧，也别再轰炸委内瑞拉、胡塞武装、伊朗或叙利亚这些地方了，因为得把仅有的库存留到真正需要的时候；（2）飞机、火车、汽车——就算能造出来，数量也会很少，而且价格会贵得离谱，反正这里看不到通货膨胀；（3）至于半导体和人工智能——就算能造出高科技芯片，价格也会是现在的十倍。

Marc
China is merely retaliating against Trump and Biden's sanctions and very hight tariffs.

中国只是在报复特朗普和拜登的制裁以及高额关税而已。

Chunk
US should ban export of iPhones to China. While we are at it, ban Tesla too,

美国应该禁止向中国出口iPhone，既然都要禁，特斯拉也一起禁了吧。

MCC
Obviously you don't know Iphones are made in China. Enjoy your time in the shell.

显然你不知道iPhone是在中国生产的，继续活在你的壳里吧。

Duy
Thanks to Dems for such policies that closing out all the mines in US so that we are in this position today. Lol

多亏了民主党搞的那些政策，把美国所有的矿都关了，我们今天才会落到这步田地，哈哈。

Mckay2025
Trump and his yes men are running around with no strategy, no plan regarding China while attempting to smash rocks with eggs as in destined to fail.

特朗普和他那些唯命是从的手下，在对华问题上毫无战略和计划，还想着以卵击石，注定要失败。

Inobest
Bring them on, China is fully prepared.

放马过来吧，中国已经做好了万全准备。

sexy
The felon is too poorly educated to comprehend that China has moved on.

那个重罪犯（特朗普）文化水平太低，根本不懂中国已经向前发展了。

El o
That sound you heard was Tim Cook and Elon Musk soiling their pants.

你们听到的那声音，是蒂姆·库克和埃隆·马斯克吓得尿裤子了。