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美国限制AI芯片出口中东,或为防止中东国家将芯片转售中国,印网民热议

Nvidia Faces Curbs: Are Chips the New Weapon in Great Power Contest?

英伟达面临限制:芯片成了大国竞争的新武器?

The US is broadening export restrictions on Nvidia AI chips. After China, some West Asian countries could now face restrictions while ordering Nvidia's chips.

Are companies like Nvidia now a strategic asset for countries like the US?

美国正在扩大对英伟达人工智能芯片的出口限制。继中国之后,一些西亚国家在订购英伟达芯片时可能会受到限制。像英伟达这样的公司现在是美国等国家的战略资产吗?

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据报道,美国芯片制造商英伟达和AMD均已收到美国政府限制向中东国家出口先进人工智能芯片的要求。分析人士称,此类举措是为防止中东国家将这些芯片转售中国。

 

以下是印度网友的评论:

bhuppi13

This is good. Necessity will force countries like India to manufacture chips. 10 years down the line they can start making powerful chips

这很好,需求将迫使印度等国家生产芯片。10年后,他们可以开始制造性能强大的芯片

 

fallonmassey4714

Right, our Free Market turns out to be not so free!

Also, our claim that our companies aren't state controlled is a total joke!

But NVidia is riding a lot of HYPE right now, they aren't as good as they claim.

However, the name of this game is to hype, get the money, then make the lies come true

没错,我们所谓的自由市场原来并不是那么自由!

此外,我们声称我们的公司不受国家控制的,这完全是一个笑话!

英伟达现在正在大肆宣传,他们并不像他们声称的那么好。

然而,游戏规则就是炒作,赚到钱,然后就让谎言成真

 

sahilgupta3564

What if blacklisted countries build a proxy? They can put a purchaser in a country say INDIA and purchase chips from him.

So, those countries still can get chips proxed through INDIA or any other non-blacklisted country.

Prices may be a bit higher due to one more layer of cost but still possible to bypass such censorship.

如果被列入黑名单的国家找了一个代理怎么办?他们可以在一个国家,比如印度,找一个代理,从他那里购买芯片。

所以,这些国家仍然可以通过印度或任何其他非黑名单国家获得芯片。

由于多了一层成本,价格可能会高一点,但仍有可能绕过这种审查。

 

jamesmatipwiri3765

I don't think big consumers were not prepared for this.

我认为大买家对此并非没有准备。

 

arunkottolli

China & Russia can buy via proxy companies in other countries. Even better than selling, Nvidia can rent these chips!

There are million ways to circumvent the sanctions.

Good thing about sanctions via technology denial policy is that it makes other countries to develop their own technology.

中国和俄罗斯可以通过其他国家的代理公司购买。比出售芯片更好的是,英伟达可以出租芯片!有无数种方法可以规避制裁。制裁带来的好处是,此举迫使其他国家发展自己的技术。

 

mamacryright5740

US can curb as she likes but if there's no big market like China to sell,  how to raise huge sum of money for R&D ?

美国可以随心所欲地限制,但如果没有中国这样的大市场,如何筹集巨额研发资金?

 

Sooraj09073

Graphic processing units are small computers, which is easy to design compared actual processor. Nvedia is the most overvalued company in the world. With in 5 years if AI grow I am 100% sure some new company will be coming to capture market.

图形处理单元是小型计算机,与实际处理器相比,易于设计。英伟达是世界上最被高估的公司。5年后,如果人工智能发展起来,我100%肯定会有新公司来占领市场。

 

WiseDecisions

For sometimes may be, every country will focuse on their chip making and R&D sooner or later it'll fizzle out..

每个国家都会专注于自己的芯片制造和研发,这种政策迟早会以失败告终。

 

GolobulusJohnson-ti9vn

Why doesn't China just copy the microchip technology and manufacture their own like they do everything else? I wouldn't think it would be that hard for them. Their technology level is quite sophisticated.

为什么中国不复制微芯片技术,然后自己生产呢,就像他们造其他东西一样?我认为这对他们来说不会那么难。他们的技术水平相当先进。

 

hubreydavid7864

It won't bother China. Just means Nvidia profits fall by billions.

这不会对中国造成困扰。这意味着英伟达的利润将下降数十亿美元。

 

TaciturnTerror

Ok but that of NVIDIA first sells to company in Singapore and then that company sells it to the West Asian nations?

但是如果英伟达先卖给新加坡的公司,然后这家公司再卖给西亚国家呢?

 

garedmorort

And why shouldn’t they use tech companies as bargain chips? OPEC uses oil as a weapon, Russia has and China minerals

他们为什么不能把科技公司当作谈判筹码呢?欧佩克以石油为武器,俄罗斯和中国有矿产

 

BookofJob3XVII

I didn't know that the US owns NVDIA.

Interesting.

有趣,我竟然不知道英伟达是美国的。

 

erick4767

The real losers in the end will be the manufacturers because they are ultimately a business and their business is selling as much as they can.

最终真正的输家将是制造商,因为他们是企业,他们需要尽可能多卖产品。

 

Utube1024

US is going beyond their jurisdiction. Nvidia will close uS plant and open in China.

美国太过了。英伟达将关闭在美国的工厂,在中国建厂。

 

coz2j69

Just motivating China more to speed up becoming Semiconductor independent

只会激励中国加快半导体独立

 

distinctga5811

The US should only allow unrestricted semiconductor access to allied nations.

美国应该只允许不受限制的半导体进入盟国。

 

toneedit7949

Chip technology is so advanced I don't understand it.

芯片技术如此先进,我不理解这种做法。

 

laoxanmodi

USA:

No matter which party is in power US interests are most important and will be protected.

India:

A group of parties compromised with disadvantages for India for 25 years.

美国: 无论哪个政党执政,美国的利益都是最重要的,将得到捍卫。

印度: 一群政党对印度的劣势妥协了25年

 

tHErHETORICrEPORT7

This has been going on for a long time. One of the reasons why Huawei equipments aren't allowed in the USA.

这种情况已经持续了很长时间。这是华为设备不被获准进入美国的原因之一。

 

kickass7104

Where are those who said it's the end of the dollar

那些说美元已经走到尽头的人,在哪里?

 

nmew6926

Nvidia CEO is an Indian Jai Hind

英伟达的CEO是印度裔,印度必胜!

 

jkuang

TSMC founder and CEO is Chinese from Taiwan.  Nvidia founder and CEO is Chinese from Taiwan.  And of course now China can mass produce 28nm, 14nm and 7nm chips.  So you see, most major chip manufacturers are led by Chinese.  So what is US doing?  Fight the Chinese on chip making?  That is their specialty!

By the way, Huawei just started selling Huawei Mate 60 PRO.  Guess what, the 7nm chip inside is made by HiSilicon which is a Chinese chip company.  The sale started  at the exact same day that US secretary of commerce Raimondo visited China.  China is taunting US on the so called chip war.

台积电创始人兼首席执行官来自中国台湾。英伟达的创始人兼首席执行官也是自中国台湾。当然,现在中国可以量产28nm、14nm和7nm芯片。所以你看,大多数主要的芯片制造商都是由中国人领导的。美国在做什么?在芯片制造上与中国对抗?那是他们的专长!

顺便说一下,华为刚刚开始销售华为Mate 60 PRO。你猜怎么着,里面的7nm芯片是由中国芯片公司海思制造的。美国商务部部长雷蒙多访华的同一天开始销售。中国这是在所谓的芯片战争上嘲弄美国。

 

libertynhunge1110

Lenovo makes good computers too

联想的电脑也很好

 

BespokeJoe

Does the recent BRICS invitation have anything to do with it?

最近金砖国家的邀请是否与此有关?

 

venusbam2815

Wise decision by the USA

美国的决定很明智

 

bobjack2381

China makes their own chips forget about US hegemony.

中国自己制造芯片,无视美国的霸权。

 

lkaymedia6276

Other countries are making them. Not a big deal

没什么大不了的,其他国家也在制造芯片。

 

icast.2388

Americans are  Very very funny

You guys behind China 1000 years

美国人非常非常有趣,你们落后中国1000年了

 

rahendrasilitonga9710

How about india,curbs rice?

印度呢,限制大米呢?

 

todaycofer535

It is too late to cry, when the HEAD is Gone.

到时候为时已晚,哭都来不及了。

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