Japan’s Biggest Industry Is Collapsing: China Is Crushing the Japanese Auto Sector

日本支柱产业濒临崩盘，中国车企全面压制日本汽车行业

以下是各国网友的评论：

asimwaheed8201
Look at the British Car Industry.

瞧瞧英国汽车行业的下场便知。

waichungsham1578
It's not cost effective to make stuff in UK some UK new channel said recently it cost almost £1billion pounds to build 1 mile of high speed rail in uk

在英国本土生产商品成本极高，当地新闻台近期报道，修建一英里高铁造价将近10亿英镑。

wt9653
Japan's short term hybrid cars thinking was successful!
China: hold my beer!

日本靠混动汽车短期尝到甜头，中国直接实力赶超。

Ushio01
In 2000 Japan had over 18 million 20-29 year olds in 2025 it was just over 12 million and in 2050 it will be just over 9 million. Innovation relies on the young and Japan is running out.

2000年日本20至29岁青年超1800万人，2025年仅剩1200多万，2050年将跌破千万。创新离不开年轻人，日本新生代人口持续锐减。

BiroPenyelidikFederal
Make SUSHI Great Again

重振寿司产业

erickuelker5079
Senior leadership in Japan is vehemently opposed to EV's. They even teach schoolkids that EV's are bad, and ICE cars are superior. There is a cultural factor at play.

日本高层极力抵触电动汽车，甚至向孩童灌输电车弊端、燃油车更优秀的观念，这背后存在固有观念层面的原因。

helixator3975
Similar to the US, they’re wedded to a dying industry and have failed to keep up with tech developments.

和美国处境相仿，死守没落产业，没能跟上技术迭代步伐。

David-u6z6w
Never count out or underestimate the Japanese

切勿小瞧日本的实力。

FarBetterThanIDeserve
Toyota will make it through. Honda probably too. Nisan has been losing their edge for decades.

丰田能够渡过难关，本田大概率也没问题，日产数十年间早已丧失竞争优势。

dennisrichards7994
No Toyota won't , it is one of the reasons Japan's automotive industries are failing , to slow to take up EVs and now they are to far behind

丰田撑不住，这也是日本汽车业衰败的原因之一。转型电车步伐迟缓，如今差距已然难以追赶。

kenm4898
@dennisrichards7994 Lol no. Toyota didn't take the EV hype bait like GM and Honda. They are still the largest car company in the world with their hybrids leading the way-so much so that even BYD are making hybrids now

不至于。丰田没有跟风盲目投身电车热潮，如今依旧稳居全球车企榜首，混动技术优势显著，就连比亚迪也开始研发混动车型。

endrikbarboritsch7003
Toyota should make the Corolla Drone and the Camry Tank.

丰田不妨造出卡罗拉无人机、凯美瑞战车这类新奇产品。

navajyotichetia8968
Japan should never think Panhandle Japanhandle

日本不该妄图四处谋求利益帮扶。

dennisrichards7994
This was always coming and I blame Toyota for this , they were the biggest EV haters out there and they went around the world to try and poison the world against them they thought their cars were so great they could choose when the world should adopt EVs , arrogance and greed has been their downfall !!!

这样的结局早有预兆，丰田要负主要责任。它一贯排斥电车，还在全球散布负面言论。自认产品顶尖，妄图掌控电车普及节奏，傲慢与贪心最终使其走向落败。

timedone8502
You lost me at the part you said: why have companies as dynamic as Japanese ones...lol. Japanese companies are the slowest ones to adapt to changes.

实在不敢认同你的说法，日本企业应变革新的速度向来十分迟缓。

HonuFlight
China is doing to the Japanese auto industry what they did to the American one...

中国冲击日本汽车行业，如同当初日本撼动美国车企市场一般。

duydatyds
As admirable as the Japanese production is, they will bow down to the next level of production from China with their fully autonomous dark factories.

日本制造工艺固然出色，但中国无人智能工厂的生产水准，已然实现层级超越。

phyarth8082
The phrase "old habits die hard" Japan and especially Germany spend 150 years perfecting diesel engine, and it is their child that they perfected. And EV is something 90% completely different not just batteries which is heart of EV but even engines sorry Freudian slip motors.

积习难改。日本与德国耗费百年打磨柴油发动机，对此产业执念深重。电动汽车与之截然不同，核心不单是电池，动力结构也全然换新。

fidodid1
Legacy auto produces the same subpar cars year after year while asking extortionate prices. Until that changes…

Attempts to save Japan’s car industry will go as well as Detroit’s.

The Swedes Let it go. And it is thriving vs withering

老牌车企常年车型性能平平，售价却居高不下，现状不改变就难有出路。

日本汽车业的挽救之路，大概率会重蹈底特律车企衰败的覆辙。

瑞典选择顺势转型产业，行业反而蓬勃发展，并未日渐萎缩。

JoveJean-e4g
Everyone will switch to wartime production

各家企业都会转向战时生产模式。

rajadon2071
Please save car industry of japan

希望日本汽车行业能够渡过危机。

rayversen
Japan's regressive mindset will take their nation to the ground

思想观念停滞不前，终将拖累日本整体发展。

denny-f4s
Toyota way? What a joke! Taiichi Ohno basically went to the States and stole their technology and production method. How come nobody calls them stealing?

所谓丰田生产模式根本不值一提。大野耐一借鉴美国技术与生产方式，却很少有人将其视作窃取行为。

fidodid1
Capitalism makes corporations no guarantees. Rise and fall by your success and relevance. Legacy automakers are failing at both while whining for public bailouts

资本市场优胜劣汰，企业兴衰全凭自身实力与价值。老牌车企竞争力不断下滑，还一味寻求政府救助。

dougsheldon5560
Sure, and the factory employees don't deserve a living wage in expensive areas?

话说回来，高消费地区的工厂工人，理应拿到维持生计的薪资。

xcel_riki
After I have Chinese Electric cars I don't think I will come back to buy Japan cars, just too expensive, and lack of technology

开过中国电车后，我不会再选购日系车。定价偏高，技术也缺乏亮点。

T00Busy113
That’s what happens when you live on past glory and fail to innovate, German automaker is next, and then maybe American

沉溺过往成就、拒绝创新就会落到这般境地。接下来德国车企也会面临困境，美国车企同样难保。

q6u
Toyota is doing incredibly fine. Nissan actually had a similar life threatening situation in the past, but afterwards made a strong comeback. I would not give up on them too fast.

丰田目前经营状况稳定。日产也曾遭遇致命危机，后续成功扭转局面，不必过早判定其衰败。

damienbates
Toyota and Honda have both been kee prices high for their vehicles. Nissans are mostly crap! I’ve owned two and never again. They look great and have nice features but have short lifespans and constant mechanical problems.

丰田、本田车型定价一直偏高。日产车辆品质欠佳，我买过两辆不会再入手。外观配置尚可，但使用寿命短，故障频发。

makessense2u1
From where I come from, India, Totoya is barely managing to stay relevant. They do have decent sales, but market leadership looks impossible for them. Honda is a shadow of its former self now. Just 3 offerings across all segments. Ditto for Nissan. They launched Datsun in India and shut it in a few years. Most of Nissans cars failed in India, except one. Now they are relying on new launches and exports to save them. Sad story of Japanese car makers in India.

我身处印度市场，丰田勉强维持销量，再也无法抢占市场主导地位。本田风光不再，全系仅有三款车型在售，日产处境相差无几。其旗下达特桑品牌进驻印度数年后便退市，多款车型销路惨淡，仅剩一款还算热销。如今只能靠新车发布与出口业务求生，日系车企在印度发展处境堪忧。

yo2trader539
Suzuki has significant marketshare in India. It's low price-point market.

铃木在印度低价车市场占据不小份额。

sCyou0157
スズキは日本の自動車メーカーではないのですか？

铃木难道不属于日本车企吗？

yo2trader539
Thailand is the most important assembly location for most Japanese automakers selling vehicles in Southeast Asia. From Toyota to Nissan to Mitsubishi, they all have Thai plants.

泰国是日系车企开拓东南亚市场的核心组装基地，丰田、日产、三菱均在此设有工厂。

larryc1616
Losing market share and closing factories is seen in all legacy auto because ice is obsolete. In 5 years, only Tesla and Chinese ev manufacturers will be left of the car market worldwide

燃油车逐步淘汰，老牌车企普遍份额缩水、工厂关停。五年后全球市场大概率只剩特斯拉与中国电动车企。

mtoctrz9360
@larryc1616 If we exclude china, EVs account for less than 15% of total car sales worldwide and make up less than 1% of all cars on the road. ICE cars are not going away anytime soon, not in 5 or 10 years.

除去中国市场，全球电车销量占比不足一成五，上路车辆中电车占比更是不到百分之一。燃油车短期内不会彻底淘汰，未来十年依旧保有市场。

LonerCycle
I'm not too sure about cars, but I know a thing or two about motorcycles.

In the last few years, the Chinese have come up with a crop of some VERY compelling and competitive models. Unlike cars, the motorcycle market isn't large enough to raise the ire of the tariff wielding political class. That and the fact that outside two bouquet brands, the American's dont really manufacture motorcycles - the domestic industry doesn't need "protecting". Considering these new Chinese bikes are basically licensed European performance brand (KTM, BMW) designs, the motorcyclist community is taking them seriously - and buying them

My point is this: China is coming at Japan. This means they are now paying attention to quality and reliability while压低售价。Once upon a time Japan was known for cheap, low quality stuff - until they turned that around by making really good stuff. China is entering that stage and I'm not sure how the Japanese are going to compete. Back to motorcycles - A CFMOTO (Chinese) bike costs 25% less than a Kawasaki (Japan) in the same class. The Kawasaki buyer gets a budget model while the CFMOTO comes with a list of features only found on premium European models.

This is why Chinese electric car imports are banned in the US - nothing is even close to being able to compete with them. Not like the Japanese are interested in making electric cars anyway.

As a fan of the Japanese, I fear for them and the rocky future they face.

汽车领域我不便评判，但摩托车行业还算了解。

近几年中国摩托新品竞争力十足。摩托市场体量有限，不会引发关税贸易争端。美国本土主流摩托品牌稀少，无需产业保护。国产车型依托欧洲大牌正版技术打造，收获大批消费者认可选购。

核心趋势就是中国直面日本竞争，兼顾品质耐用度的同时把控价格。早年日本产品也曾廉价劣质，后续凭借品质翻身。如今中国正处于这个发展阶段，日本竞争压力巨大。同级别车型里，春风摩托比川崎售价低四分之一，川崎配置简约，春风却搭载诸多高端车型专属功能。

这也是美国限制进口中国电车的原因，本土产品难以抗衡。况且日本本身也无心深耕电车领域。

我本身喜爱日系产品，也不由得担忧其未来发展坎坷。

by9917
Honda introduced their own EV in 2024? Is that the GM car rebranded as a Honda or Acura or is it in another market? It wasn't well received. I think Honda owners are not accustomed to GM quality. I don't think there is a Honda EV in the US.

本田2024年推出新款电车了吗？是不是换标的通用车型？这款车口碑不佳，本田车主难以接受通用的做工水准，目前美国市场基本看不到本田电车。

RN-wq7vi
It is bold of you to assume that the war in Iran is temporary.

认定伊朗局势冲突只是短暂事件，这个想法太过武断。

LuckyYiw
At the end of the day all these mega co will ask China to simply take over for free. China can save them hundreds of thousands of employees.

最终这些大型企业或许会寻求中国接手，借此保住数十万员工岗位。

nick_the_greek-p8
Toyota are doing just fine.

丰田目前经营状态平稳。

baha3alshamari152
Yes Toyota but what about the others ?

丰田尚可维持，其他车企处境就不容乐观了。

arryc1616
Nope. Still losing market share every year and closing factories like the rest of legacy auto. Only Tesla and Chinese ev manufacturers will be left in 5 years.

事实并非如此，丰田份额逐年下滑、接连关停工厂，和其他老牌车企别无二致。五年后市场只会剩下特斯拉与中国电车企业。

greendragonspirit1646
That's why Japan is now exporting weapons, it's all they've got left.

这也是日本如今大力对外出口武器的原因，仅剩这一产业具备竞争力。

danmcnerney7886
Are you sure? Those batteries ran out of batter power faster than you could accelerate.

真的靠谱吗？这类电池耗电速度甚至比车辆提速还快。

medialcanthus9681
Japan should learn to be humble instead of antagonistic towards China. No processed rare earths to Japan because they intend to be militaristic.

日本应当放下对立态度、谦逊处事。因其扩军倾向，稀土加工原料不会供给日方。

davz4
Toyota is on the verge of putting EVs obsolete. When they effectively mass produced their hydrogen engine just think of the scaling ability… Power plants that run on water and in theory could loosen the oil grip on the world

丰田研发的氢能源发动机，或将撼动电车行业格局。一旦实现量产规模化，这类以水转化供能的动力设备，有望打破全球石油能源垄断局面。

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