Bangalore: India's Silicon Valley, a city straining under pressure • FRANCE 24 English

班加罗尔 —— 印度硅谷，一座不堪重负的城市

Over the past 25 years, Bengaluru, still popularly known as Bangalore, has transformed into India's Silicon Valley. The South Indian city of nearly 15 million people is now home to global tech giants including Apple, Microsoft, Intel, Adobe and Boeing, as well as thousands of startups. But this rapid development comes with environmental consequences

过去二十五年来，常被称作班加罗尔的本加卢鲁，已然蜕变为印度硅谷。这座拥有近一千五百万人口的印度南部城市，如今汇聚了苹果、微软、英特尔、奥多比、波音等全球科技巨头，还有数以千计的初创企业。但飞速发展的背后，也衍生出诸多环境问题

以下是印度网友的评论：

abhinavraut3099
There's no walkable footpaths, and lots of traffic.

城区人行道路况差，道路交通也十分拥堵。

HareKrsnaHareRama
I gave up on driving, the roads are terrible & prefer cheap taxs and public transportation, great temples everywhere

路况太差我已经不开车了，平时出门选平价出租和公共交通，当地还遍布各式精美寺庙。

nkrishnanarasaiah3125
Bengaluru Is 100 Times Better Than Mumbai Chennai Hyderabad Noida That Is Why All Start Ups Begin From Bengaluru

班加罗尔远比孟买、金奈、海德拉巴、诺伊达这些城市出色，所以初创企业都扎堆在这里起步。

AIgen-ct3hz
Massive corruption and incompetent leaders is the reason

根源就是腐败问题严重，地方执政者能力不足。

amekachihasibuan
India is superpower country n beautiful culture

印度是潜力大国，还拥有底蕴深厚的特色文化。

GAGANYADAV-v7r
I am Indian you are write

我是印度人，你说得没错。

nkrishnanarasaiah3125
North Indians Want To OT in Cos From Bengaluru To Noida UP Gujarat But Failed Miserably

北方地区原本想把企业从班加罗尔迁到北方各邦发展，最后计划彻底落空。

Raksh95
the state that state is in thanks to Congress, Bangalore will not be a silicon valley and startups will move out.

如今的局面都是过往政党治理不当导致，长此以往班加罗尔会丢掉硅谷头衔，各类创业企业也会陆续外迁。

lidiasantoro3098
Surely high level water management should be priority no 1 in the city.

水资源统筹管理，理应成为这座城市当下的首要发展任务。

GEOTHERMALHEAT0
For the government yes.... Been decades major cities like delhi mumbai Bangalore were just cash cows to feed the rest of the country
Barely any infrastructure development took place

在当局眼里这些城市就是敛财工具，数十年来德里、孟买、班加罗尔等核心城市只顾创收，基础配套设施几乎没有实质升级。

Humanbeing01
It says that land was originally lake or something but suddenly that city went big just like many other cities in the world.may be it’s not impossible but It’s very hard to fix that problem.

据说这片区域原本多是湖泊洼地，城市仓促扩张和很多地方如出一辙，这类发展遗留问题想要彻底解决难度极大。

AlphaBeta007
All problems leads to the root problem... The real estate boom is facilitated, not the public basic facilities like transport, affordable housing, water management and schools are not priorities.

所有乱象都指向同一个核心问题：当地大力扶持房地产业，却把交通、平价住宅、供水、教育这些民生基建抛在了脑后。

user-he3zq8hh9i
Root Cause: The real estate sector facilitates the generation of black money, which plays a significant role in funding election campaigns.

根本原因：房地产行业容易滋生灰色收入，而这笔资金还是竞选活动的重要经费来源。

vision9275
Actually, all problems lead backto the root problem...: the so-called Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi and his Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)

说到底一切问题的症结，都出在莫迪及其领导的人民党身上。

exploderingwithkrishnashuk937
Interesting how the Indian Media never really covers all these critical stories. Indian media is like tiktok now.

有意思的是，印度本土媒体从不深度报道这类民生难题，如今报道风格越发偏向娱乐化。

BrotherBobby-IN
It's a good example of the wealthy living at the expense of the middle class and the poor. It's a very hard equation to change.

这就是典型的富人侵占普通民众利益的现状，这样的社会现状很难扭转。

gourimisra6050
I have been in and out of Bangalore for last 30 years. There is no way Bengaluru is going to recover.

三十年来我时常往返这座城市，如今看来它已经很难重回往日模样。

sujesh4684
Only if TN competes seriously and Hosur takes in all new GCCs in the region will the govt act.

只有泰米尔纳德邦主动发力，让霍苏尔承接大批新兴企业园区，当地政府才会着手做出整改。

karthi-aru
@sujesh4684 Hosur needs an international airport to make that happen. But Karnataka politicians will do everything to prevent that.

想要实现这个目标，霍苏尔必须修建国际机场，不过卡纳塔克邦的政界人士会百般阻挠。

gani999
While Bangalore still has a leading place in India's tech industry, a lot of the IT work has been shifting away from Bangalore to other cities like Hyderabad, Chennai, Pune, and even smaller towns in the interiors of India in the past 25 years. It's the same with the data centers.

班加罗尔依旧稳居印度科技产业龙头位置，但近二十五年来，大量信息技术业务、数据中心项目，都逐步分流到海德拉巴、金奈、浦那以及内陆小城。

girish3643
It's a good begining and being Kannadiga we want it should be distributed to reduce population strain in Bangalore

作为本地居民，我认为产业外迁是好趋势，分散产业资源能有效缓解班加罗尔的人口与城市压力。

tsu
Yeah especially cor data centres they shouldn't allow them to build it in Bengaluru. Water is already scarce here. Before I used to be bullish, think we should get all the industry here but now I'm happy when Bengaluru gets a break from this bs.

说得没错，尤其不能再批准本地新建大型数据中心，这里水资源本就紧缺。从前我一心希望产业全都聚集此地，如今反倒希望城市能停下盲目扩张的脚步。

calamityZ-nh1yu
No they are not lol it's just lies told by telangana govt. Bengaluru is still the fastest growing city in india

并不是这样，这只是地方政府的片面说辞，班加罗尔依旧是印度发展速度最快的城市。

Ashish-m6e5m
A lot of work is moving out of India too. It’s going to countries like Thailand, Vietnam etc. because those countries have less corruption and freebies culture. Even companies are going back to China now. See trump’s latest visit to China, he took all the CEOs of his country there.

不少产业业务还流出了印度，流向泰国、越南等营商环境更好、贪腐更少的国家，甚至不少企业重新回归中国市场。近期特朗普访华还带队一众企业高管同行。

vidyaranyavijayapura1121
Data shows still Bangalore has 40% share.

相关数据显示，班加罗尔依旧占据着印度相关产业四成的市场份额。

user-he3zq8hh9i
Did humanity live better, simpler lives before the stock market amplified human greed, accelerating global warming and the destruction of our planet?

在资本市场放大人类欲望、加剧全球变暖与生态破坏之前，人类的生活是否更加安稳质朴？

TheCivilEngineer22
Seriously bro. I feel this every day in my bones. We're tired, addicted to social media, this is not the way to live.

确实如此，如今人们身心俱疲，还沉迷网络社交，这样的生活状态早已偏离初衷。

FilmingFish
The life expectancy for human beings before these things happened was about half what it is today

在现代产业兴起之前，人类的平均寿命还不到现在的一半。

user-he3zq8hh9i
@FilmingFish Just because modern medicine gave us more time doesn't mean modern society gave us more peace. Adding years to our lives isn't the same as adding life to our years.

 现代医疗拉长了寿命，却没能带来安稳舒心的生活。活得更久，不代表日子过得更有意义。

ecoideazventures6417
Agreed, the fundamental issue with the stock market is forcing companies to come up with quarterly earnings, while almost all industries have an annual cycle!

十分认同，资本市场最大的问题就是逼迫企业追逐短期季度收益，可绝大多数行业发展都需要以年度为周期稳步推进。

MithunOnTheNet
Hats off to 'lake man' Anand! Let data centres move to coastal cities where desalinated water can be used

由衷敬佩守护湖泊的公益人士阿南德！建议把数据中心迁到沿海城市，方便使用淡化海水运营。

Whatever20237
All the companies only come to India so they can violate labour laws.

很多企业进驻印度，只是为了在这里规避当地劳工法规，降低用工成本。

rewatkargaurav3787
What about of the traffic and city planning ?

那糟糕的交通状况和混乱的城市规划该如何解决？

bkb23plus
If only the government could implement the plans and rules written on papers , instead of blaming each other.. busy with party promotions and self glorifying.

只希望政府能落实出台的各项规划条例，而不是相互推诿，整日只顾党派宣传和标榜功绩。

thiru-l3m
You fool why are you asking this to france media

没必要对着外国媒体吐槽这些本土问题。

vk03k
Great depiction, life of different people.... different needs, different struggles, ......but everyone is struggling.

不同人群有着不同的诉求与难处，所有人都在为生活奔波打拼。

Now India seriously needs to get back to its roots... Indian philosophies can really help all these people

印度如今急需重拾自身传统文化理念，古老的思想智慧能够帮助民众缓解当下的生活困境。

Eugene-t6l
Using corporations to polluting India more.

大批企业入驻，进一步加重了印度的环境污染问题。

nasir3980
I have lived since my childhood in the 1980's and 90's.
There is no comparison of what it used to be and what it is now!
Though it has gained a lot in terms of infrastructure (metros, flyovers, skyscrapers world class airport ) and connectivity but lost its heritage, culture, cleanliness, greenery and it's beautiful weather

我从上世纪八九十年代就在这里生活，今昔对比差距巨大。虽说如今建起地铁、高架、高楼与国际化机场，交通出行更加便利，却丢掉了本土古韵、整洁环境、绿植风光还有舒适宜人的气候。

Subbu297
Coolie valley...no innovations..only labour job given by the US companies..to sustain we need to switch over to innovations by giving more sops to R&D

沦为廉价劳务聚集地，缺少自主创新能力，只能承接外企低端务工岗位。想要长久发展，就必须出台扶持政策，大力扶持本土研发创新产业。

udith
Do you expect people to set up companies with no experience? Also most innovations don't just randomly pop up, people should first try copying things that others do, then gradually change according to their situation until the change is big enough to be called an innovation.

没人能毫无经验就创办优质企业，创新也并非凭空而来。先学习借鉴成熟模式，再结合自身实际逐步改良优化，慢慢才能形成属于自己的创新成果。

manjeetsinghmann3592
At any cost, water bodies must be restored and govt. must support him wholeheartedly. He is doing an yeoman's service to the society at large. Thanks France24.

无论如何都要修复城市水域生态，政府也该全力支持这位公益人士，他为社会做出了极大贡献，感谢法国24台的真实报道。

hiruranka8417
My family moved from Madras to Bangalore in 1980....my family is from Rajasthan....those days there was a "saying or belief", WHEN the city reaches BANNERGATTA wildlife park, it will see its doomsday....LOCALS, had this saying.

1980年我们全家从金奈搬到班加罗尔，祖辈来自拉贾斯坦邦。当地一直流传一句老话：城市扩张到班纳加塔野生公园之时，便是这座城市走向衰败之日。

rukmanimanay6607
Now, our young people are working their hearts out to do something for themselves and their country- but we wonder what our politicians/ leaders/ those in power( the govt. Officials especially) are doing for the people- they need to go around the city and improve things - NOW!

印度年轻人都在奋力打拼，努力实现自我价值、为国出力。反观掌权的政界官员，却很少为民众办实事，真心希望他们尽快实地走访，着手改善城市现状。

jagadeeshkumar7724
Lolllll you are a kid right and everything for you needs to be done by someone.

哈哈，看来你年纪还小，总觉得所有问题都该等着别人来解决。

kumarkr234
In India, many decisions are taken by real estate companies.. government is just a puppet..so irrespective of the problems either central or state governments won’t let any other areas to develop and want everything to be centralised and attributed to few cities only.. so chaotic situation arises naturally.

在印度，很多城市发展决策都由地产企业主导，政府形同虚设。各级部门还刻意限制其他地区发展，把资源全都集中在少数核心城市，乱象自然层出不穷。

aksk6743
Actually this is good report. I have worked in Bangalore for 3years and currently living in France I can definitely tell there is lot of things bangalore was not planning to tackle when the IT was booming, the government didn't plan to expand their infrastructure management nor they requested new startups or any big firms to actively move to other cities in the state. Today Bangalore is the IT Hub of Asia no doubt in that but if the city continues slow infrastructure management then probably by 10yrs bangalore is no longer the city where people want to live. Rising cost of apartment, rents, traffic congestion , water management, civic responsibility of waste management all needs to be addressed if the city wants to thrive for a long run. Else companies will start moving back to Hyderabad, Gurgaon, Chennai, Vishakapatnam and etc.

这篇报道十分客观中肯。我曾在班加罗尔工作三年，如今定居法国，很清楚这座城市在信息技术产业崛起时，完全没有做好长远规划。当地既没有扩建完善基础配套，也没有引导企业向周边城市分流。如今它虽是亚洲知名信息技术中心，可基建建设长期滞后，不出十年就会失去居住吸引力。房价租金飞涨、交通拥堵、用水紧张、垃圾处理混乱等问题必须尽快解决，不然大批企业都会陆续迁往其他城市。

arvaak
Good as a primer. Need more in-depth look into the situation of businesses, taxes, workers, infrastructure, corruption and also the environmental impact

这篇报道适合用来初步了解现状，还需要更深层次去调研当地企业经营、税务制度、务工群体处境、基建水平、贪腐问题以及各类生态环境隐患。

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