Deepseek is back. Should Silicon Valley be scared?

DeepSeek回归。硅谷该感到紧张吗？

China's AI models like Deep Seek are matching US performance at lower costs, resha the global tech race.

像深度求索（DeepSeek）这样的中国大模型，正以更低的成本达到与美国相当的性能水平，重塑全球科技竞争格局。

以下是各国网友的评论：

TheKkpop1
Deep seek open source Vs USA proprietary. I choose open source

DeepSeek开源版对比美国闭源产品，我选择开源。

4_rands
USA proprietary released 6month / 1 yr old models as open source. A number of platforms to run them.

美国的闭源厂商会把已经发布半年到一年的旧模型拿出来开源，现在已经有不少平台可以运行这些模型。

OrdinaryOrangeCat
great point. I'll take whatever evaporates less water

说得很有道理，哪个产品耗水量更少我就使用哪个。

goldie75c
deepseek is open weights not open source

DeepSeek只是开放模型权重，并不是严格意义上的开源。

wayando
The big part is it can run offline ... And performs well.

这款模型最大的优势是支持离线运行，而且实际使用效果很不错。

angy9730
Even if you have extra computing power, you can still deploy it to make money

就算你手里有闲置的计算资源，也可以通过部署这个模型来实现盈利。

tedchandran
What about sovereign models like Bharat AI. Jai Hind.

那像印度巴拉特AI这类由国家主导研发的自主大模型又该如何看待呢，印度必胜。

kayleekayt3306
Nothing here can be called open source. The training data is the source, the weights are the binary.

目前这些产品都称不上真正的开源，训练数据才是核心源代码，模型权重只是编译后的二进制文件。

SeptimiusSeverus-q8h
Why is every Chinese technology a threat to US ?.The biggest threat to humanity is posed by US.

为什么中国的每一项技术在美国眼中都成了威胁，事实上对全人类构成最大威胁的恰恰是美国自身。

kayleekayt3306
Tbh the reason why the US is scared shitless of China is because the US ar3 an Empire in decline - used to getting free things from its might - and China will be the first other international player that will be able to say no to them.

说实话美国之所以极度畏惧中国，是因为它正处于衰落阶段，过去习惯依靠强权无偿攫取利益，而中国将会是第一个有能力对美国说不的国际参与者。

marktrinidad7650
Its a threat to the west. Not just the US. I mean European mentality thinks when American techs lead they lead also, but the fact is Europe doesn't get any money from all of it and just sat on the sidelines. Europe has such brilliant universities and all they can come up is Mistral AI which is not near the top in LLM benchmarks.

这不仅威胁到美国，更是对整个西方的挑战。欧洲人普遍认为美国科技领先就等同于自己领先，可现实是欧洲在其中没有获得任何经济收益，始终处于旁观者位置。欧洲拥有众多顶尖高等院校，却只研发出Mistral AI这一模型，在大模型性能评测中连前列都无法进入。

eremySMJ
Americans are also Europeans so they are a family in that way. China rising would be beneficial for a completely different segment of the world

美国人的先祖大多来自欧洲，从这个角度来看二者属于同根同源的关系，中国的崛起将会给世界上另一部分完全不同的地区带来发展机遇。

angy9730
Of course, it's a threat, hindering American capital from making big money.

这当然会被视作威胁，因为它阻碍了美国资本获取巨额利润的通道。

boxtears
Deepseek is back? I never went away, if anything the fact that it was open-source and open-weight meant it got integrated into so many systems (including for American companies). It literally became the Android of LLMs and it's not even the top LLM in China anymore, it's now behind Qwen and Kimi. It's amazing the Western world only knows about Deepseek when China has more popular ones out already.

说DeepSeek回归其实并不准确，它从来就没有退出过市场。正因为采用开源和开放权重的模式，它已经被整合进大量系统之中，其中甚至包括多家美国企业的系统。它俨然成为大模型领域的安卓系统，可即便如此它在国内也不再是顶尖水平，目前排名已经落后于通义千问和Kimi。令人感慨的是，当中国已经推出多款热度更高的模型时，西方世界却只知晓DeepSeek这一款产品。

gmt-r9z
This shows the ignorance of the West! They have been underestimating China since I was able to think!

这充分体现出西方世界的无知，从我有认知开始，他们就一直在低估中国的发展实力。

neilknightley4703
US is like obsessed with China, whereas China is doing its own thing. if only US focused on its problems instead singularly focused on this warlike rhetoric and trying to contain china everyone would win

美国近乎偏执地紧盯中国，而中国始终专注于自身的发展建设。如果美国能把精力放在解决自身问题上，而非一味发表对抗性言论并试图遏制中国，那么全世界都能从中受益。

DoorsOfPerceptionPDM
Bullies need to learn how cooperation works

习惯恃强凌弱的国家，应当学会如何与他国开展平等合作。

kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
dont, that will turn into gang of mafia..........In American school, bullying is tradition in american school when u are stronger. In China, the school always teaches u have the responsibility to take the others if u are better

合作并不会带来改变，最终只会演变成黑社会组织般的利益勾结。在美国的校园文化中，强者欺凌弱者是约定俗成的惯例，而中国的教育始终传递一个理念，当你变得更优秀时就有责任帮助身边的人共同进步。

imcooliswear
Perhaps if the Germans paid more attention to the Chinese they wouldn’t have had so much of their technology stolen and produced in china

如果德国人能多关注中国的动态，或许就不会出现大量技术被窃取并在中国制造生产的情况。

kenho-wr5ul2rh7m
People like u always mixed it wrongly. Chinese does reverse engineering and doing well on it. But reverse engineering is not regarded as stealing. This is very common practice in any manufacturing type companies. Almost all of them do reverse engineering. When u release a new car, every other brand will buy it and carry reverse engineering. 2nd, China produces a lot of thing that Germany doesnt produce........ the tech stolen and produced is a joke

你这类人总是存在认知误区，中国擅长逆向工程技术，但逆向工程并不等同于技术窃取，这是所有制造类企业普遍采用的常规手段，几乎业内所有企业都会实施。当某一品牌推出新款车型后，其他品牌都会购买样车进行逆向拆解分析。此外中国能够生产大量德国不具备生产能力的产品，所谓技术窃取再生产的说法完全是无稽之谈。

Jerry-sf3vd
Germans need to catch up with Chinese EV technology. Complaining about technology they fall behind does not help

德国需要加快追赶中国电动汽车技术的步伐，单纯抱怨自身技术落后没有任何实际意义。

DoorsOfPerceptionPDM
not true. China is investing heavily in renewable energy now. There’s always a positive impact. German ingenuity will continue to save the planet

你的观点并不准确，中国当前正在可再生能源领域投入巨额资金，相关发展必然会产生积极影响。不过德国的科技创新能力依旧会为保护地球环境持续发挥作用。

georgelim8746
Always with a caveat that China succeeds because of subsidies. DeepSeek was a private startup!

总有声音刻意强调中国的发展成就依靠政府补贴，可DeepSeek本身就是一家民营初创企业。

williamwatitwa3534
European media discussing china Vs US

欧洲媒体正在聚焦中美之间的科技竞争话题。

dachochiyo3992
China GDP larger than EU countries combined. EU lost everything especially Techs

中国的GDP总量已经超过欧盟所有国家的总和，欧盟在各个领域都失去了竞争优势，科技领域的衰退尤为明显。

fl00fydragon
I mean, we produce the technology that makes the advanced chips that makes this technology possible. As such, we are invented in this race and honestly we sahould be playing both sides to create an equal competition that may result in models that can be acellerators in medical research

我们掌握着生产高端芯片的核心技术，而这些芯片正是人工智能技术发展的基础支撑。因此我们本身就是这场竞争的核心参与者，我们应当采取平衡策略与双方保持合作，营造公平的竞争环境，这样才能推动研发出可助力医学研究突破的人工智能模型。

fallonmassey4714
You copy all of this from African Americans! Why do you think the most advanced chip in the world for now is named BLACKWELL! If we played fair, America would be a 3rd world nation, can't come up with anything new

这些技术成果都是抄袭非裔美国人的研发成果，不然当前全球最先进的芯片为何会命名为布莱克韦尔。如果遵循公平竞争原则，美国会沦落为第三世界国家，因为他们根本没有自主创新的能力。

mikhailbulgakov1472
The US bully cannot keep up with China

美国这个惯于强权施压的国家，已经无法跟上中国的发展速度。

donkalzone6671
Dont worry, western nations will make chinese AI a security risk. And europe will continue to pay for us BigTech

不必担心，西方国家会将中国人工智能产品定义为安全威胁，欧洲民众也会继续为美国科技巨头的产品买单。

encodedlife
Not sure that's the sentiment in Europe at the moment. France and Europe is doing a huge push to use non-US tools from US Big Tech.

目前欧洲民众未必持有这样的态度，法国及欧洲其他国家正在大力推广使用非美国科技巨头开发的工具产品。

sarahjenkins7064
yeah for now, but what happens 3 years from now when we elect a new president? Will Europe come running back to the US and then switch back to demonizing China again

这种情况或许只能维持当下，三年后新总统上任局势可能发生转变，欧洲是否会重新倒向美国并再次开展抹黑中国的行动。

Memovox
The 'race' is over. The US lost. As it lost the STEM Sciences graduates race. See the correlation..?

这场科技竞争已经分出胜负，美国彻底落败，这和美国在STEM领域毕业生数量竞争中失利的情况如出一辙，你能看出其中的关联吗。

richardleong3920
DeepSeek really exposes the corporate greed and price gouging of Silicon Valley. China's strategy is clear, destroy Silicon Valley's monopoly with open source tech, and then clean up afterwards. This strategy is working with solar panels, EVs, electric batteries. Predatory capitalism at its most ruthless.

DeepSeek的崛起彻底暴露了硅谷企业的贪婪与漫天要价的行径，中国的发展战略十分清晰，通过开源技术打破硅谷的垄断地位，后续再完善市场布局。这一模式已经在太阳能板、电动汽车和动力电池领域取得成功，充分展现出美国掠夺式zb主义的残酷本质。

w3s77
Kimi 2.5 blows away all closed US models. Kimi cost $5,000,000 to train and can be run on home computer. US closed AI is completely worthless. Anyone defending Open AI, jewthropic or any of the other closed source AI models, no chance. Data centers are a total waste of money. NVDA is going to $0.

Kimi 2.5的性能远超美国所有闭源模型，其研发训练成本仅500万美元，普通家用电脑即可运行。美国的闭源人工智能产品毫无价值可言，任何为OpenAI、Anthropic及其他闭源模型辩护的行为都站不住脚。建设大规模数据中心完全是浪费资金，英伟达的股价最终会跌至谷底。

kasikwagoma6740
It's America vs China, them America vs the rest of the world. I am an African and not afraid of China

美国先是将中国视为竞争对手，后续又会与全世界为敌，我作为非洲人，对中国没有任何畏惧心理。

TienyeeTien
US AI also needs the aid from China, the republic of China

美国的人工智能技术发展同样需要中国的技术支持。

Jerry-sf3vd
Currently US AI application is focusing on replacing low level white collar jobs. Amazon just announced a major lay off in Seattle area that also hits the mid level white collar. Local sandwich shops are hit hard.

当前美国人工智能技术的应用主要集中在替代基层白领岗位，亚马逊刚刚宣布在西雅图地区开展大规模裁员，中层白领也受到波及，当地的三明治小店等配套商户因此遭受严重冲击。

mwxoO
What makes American AI advanced? Chatting? Smart people know China has already won. China has no rivals in AI applications across various industries. The Chinese will tell you that there will never be true AGI, only industry-specific AGI

美国人工智能的优势体现在哪里，难道只是聊天交互吗？有识之士都清楚中国已经赢得这场竞争，中国在各行业人工智能落地应用方面没有对手。中国业内人士普遍认为，通用人工智能永远无法实现，未来只会出现面向特定行业的专业人工智能。

douglasunderhill7938
I've used deepseek extensively generating legal documents. Have to mind your prompts and check for mistakes but it's revolutionary. I've used it a wee bit with one coding project though I don't know current version saves time with bugs it introduces. As someone living in America I much prefer the AI I use be in a different jurisdiction.

我长期使用DeepSeek生成法律文书，使用时需要优化提示词并核对内容错误，但整体而言具备革命性的使用体验。我也在少量编程项目中尝试过该模型，不确定最新版本能否修复漏洞并提升效率。作为居住在美国的用户，我更倾向于使用管辖区域不同的人工智能产品。

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