India is having a civil engineering crisis. Mumbai to Bihar, bridges to byways, highways to setu

印度正面临一场土木工程危机。从孟买到比哈尔邦，无论是桥梁还是小巷，高速公路还是跨河大桥。

India is adding mega Infrastructure projects, but this infrastructure push hasn't come with a quality upgrade.

印度正在新增大量大型基础设施项目，但这次基建扩张并未同步实现质量提升。

以下是印度网友的评论：

thecoldassassin
India is having a bribery crisis. Civil engineering is just the symptom

印度正深陷贿赂危机，土木工程领域的问题只是这场危机的一个表象。

JomJib9120
Huge mismatch in infrastructure budget & spending records; including electoral bonds bribery for contracts leading to incidents like uttarkashi, hatkeshwar, Pragati Maidan, NH44, etc!

基础设施的预算和实际支出记录严重不符。其中还存在用选举债券行贿以获取合同的情况，这种行为已经引发了多起事故，比如乌塔卡什事故、哈特凯什瓦尔事故、普拉加蒂迈丹事故以及44号国家公路相关事故等。

JomJib9120
India’s Income Inequality is now worse than under British rule. 10% of the Indian population holds 77% of the total national wealth.

如今印度的收入不平等问题，比英国殖民统治时期还要严重。全国10%的人口，掌握着77%的国民财富。

tejakrishna532
The real problem India is having is the media crisis. Even the so-called independent media is hesitant to mention "corruption " as the headline. Why can't we name and shame the contractors??!

印度真正的问题是媒体危机。就连那些号称“独立”的媒体，都不敢把“腐 败”作为头条来报道。我们为什么就不能点名曝光那些承包商，让他们颜面扫地呢？！

JPunjabi1857
If this is done then the Government be it state or central will take offence….one minister of highways knows very well that highways won’t last long given India’s rainy season, yet Tarmac highways are being constructed

要是真这么做，无论是邦政府还是中央政府都会生气。有位负责公路事务的部长很清楚，印度雨季漫长，修柏油公路肯定用不了多久，但现在还是在修柏油公路。

gummadhav1
There is no civil engineering crisis in India. The Print need not fear to say that there is political and contractor nexus

印度根本不存在土木工程危机。《印刷报》不用害怕，应该直接指出当前存在政客与承包商相互勾结的问题。

Codetutor-DemystifyCoding
Why are we pretending like we don't know the answer. Politician, contractor, police, judiciary, people everyone is neck deep in corruption..What do you expect?

我们何必装着不知道答案呢？政客、承包商、警察、司法人员，甚至普通民众，每个人都深陷腐 败泥潭，几乎要被淹没。这种情况下，你还能指望有什么好结果？

siddharth6505
India has a corruption and babu problem not a civil engineer problem

印度的问题在于腐败和官僚作风，而非土木工程师的问题。

joedecius
I don’t understand how the rich in Mumbai drive their uber expensive cars wearing hideously priced designer labels on these roads and walk through these dirty smelly ugly streets. What goes into their minds when they say “ I’m wearing Jimmy Choo and Chanel and drive a Porsche” while living in these conditions… unimaginably stupid.

我实在想不通，孟买的有钱人穿着贵得离谱的名牌、开着超豪华的汽车，怎么能在这样的路上行驶，还能走过这些又脏、又臭、又难看的街道。他们生活在这样的环境里，却还说“我穿吉米·周、香奈儿，开保时捷”，脑子里到底在想什么，简直蠢得没法想象。

agnescraig2912
Am an Indian Catholic migrant & your comment has always crossed my mind. After I started work in Mumbai Hajii Ali Worli always held me nose when passing the sea front where are the bottoms were positioned facing the sea. Hated my life the grinding Poverty & was always a foul adolescence. After moving out of the boarding school & slum Migration bought me dignity humanity as a woman. Strong advocate for 1 child policy.

我是印度天主教移民，你说的这些话我也一直想到过。我在孟买哈芝阿里沃利区工作时，每次经过海边都得捂住鼻子——那里的厕所正好对着大海。我讨厌那样的生活，穷得喘不过气，整个青春期都过得一团糟。后来我离开寄宿学校和贫民窟，移民给了我尊严，让我作为一个女人活得像个人样。我坚决支持独生子女政策。

kasturchakraborty
India's brightest civil engineers are employed by MnC's to design infrastructure for the Middle East, USA, Europe and Australia/NZ. Almost every major global construction multinational has multiple offices in India. Most engineers would not work for Indian companies due to low pay and culture. What you have left to work on Indian projects isn't capable enough to match global standards. People would be surprised to learn how much Indian engineers contribute to the design of highways, roads and buildings abroad.

印度最优秀的土木工程师，都受雇于跨国公司，为中东、美国、欧洲以及澳新地区设计基础设施。几乎所有大型全球建筑跨国公司，都在印度设有多个办事处。大多数工程师因为薪资低、企业文化差，不愿为印度本土公司工作。剩下那些参与印度本土项目的工程师，能力根本达不到国际标准。要是人们知道印度工程师为国外公路、道路和建筑设计做出了多大贡献，肯定会很惊讶。

AbaniPattnaik
You are right, but its more of an execution problem than design issue. 99% of the road and infra design are straight forward, there arent much complexty, the design is mostly copy paste in majority of the cases and it would work well if the construction is done as per the design. But thats where is problem lies, poor execution, poor monitoring by govt agencies, poor quality control and lack of Contrl over Contractors due to underlying corruption which leads to all the issues. If the Top Civil Engineer (Chief Engineer in Govt Depts) will not allow any corruption and hold all his subordinates accountable, then our infrastructure will be way better than what it is, if not the best in the world.

你说得对，但问题更多出在执行上，而非设计。99%的公路和基础设施设计都很简单，没什么复杂性，大多数情况下都是照搬设计方案。只要按照设计施工，效果肯定很好。但问题就出在这里：施工执行不到位、政府机构监管不力、质量把控不严，再加上背后存在腐败问题，导致对承包商失去管控，所有问题也由此产生。如果政府部门的高级土木工程师（总工程师）不纵容腐败，让下属都承担起责任，那么我们的基础设施就算成不了世界最好，也会比现在好得多。

ramsharma4702
If these politically connected “contractors” aren’t arrested and thrown in jail punished severely , such conditions is never going to change !

要是这些跟政界有关系的“承包商”不被逮捕入狱、不受到严厉惩罚，这种局面永远也改变不了！

sachansam1
no engineering crisis... they know exactly what they are doing.

根本没有什么工程危机，他们很清楚自己在做什么。

xolico1
We are very patient people.... towards the superiors or powerful people. And very aggressive towards the deprived ones.

我们对上级或有权有势的人，总是很有耐心。但对贫困弱势群体，却非常凶。

AlphaAlpha-y2z
Remove the lowest bidder criteria. Give work to experience company for road planning and construction. Most of builders are involve in corruption and have close relation with local politicians who take shares from allocated budget.

取消最低价中标机制。把公路规划和建设项目交给有经验的公司。大多数建筑商都参与腐败，还跟地方政客关系密切，这些政客会从项目拨款中抽成。

vm-my6hg
Engineer is the lowest hanging fruit for the print, too scared to call out the decision makers

对《印刷报》来说，工程师就是最容易拿捏的软柿子，他们根本不敢指责那些决策者。

chaajayamh
Crisis in education syllabus, not grooming civil engineers, competition with software career, giving civil engineers better pay, etc all contributing.. On sites you don't see civil engineers.. Only thekedar if needed and laborers.. That is sad reality of India.. Laborers take max decisions there

教育大纲存在问题、没有好好培养土木工程师、软件行业带来的竞争、没给土木工程师更高薪资——这些因素都在产生影响。在工地现场，你根本见不到土木工程师的身影，只有需要时才会出现的包工头，以及普通工人。这就是印度令人难过的现实，工地上的大部分决策都是工人在做。

michealanderson2282
33% for politicians, 33% contractor's profit and 33% for road work.

项目资金里，33%进了政客腰包，33%是承包商的利润，剩下33%才用在公路建设上。

NIMESHDADIA
I feel the Poor in India are too nice. its really sad .

我觉得印度的穷人太老实了，这真的很令人难过。

keeptrying1101
Ever since the BJP came to power, corruption has soared to unimaginable levels! Out of every ₹10 crore allocated to a project, nearly ₹8 crore vanishes into the pockets of politicians. The contracts are handed to their friends and relatives, who use substandard materials and pocket another crore. Government officials take their share, another ₹50 lakhs and the project that should’ve cost ₹10 crore is completed with barely ₹50 lakhs’ worth of quality. This is the worst corruption India has seen since independence. Our hard-earned tax money is being shamelessly looted!

自从印度人民党上台后，腐败问题已经严重到了难以想象的地步！每个项目拨款1亿卢比，就有近8000万卢比进了政客的腰包。项目合同都交给了他们的亲友，这些人用劣质材料施工，还能再私吞1000万卢比。政府官员也会分一杯羹，再拿走500万卢比。本该花1亿卢比完成的项目，最后只用了相当于500万卢比的成本，质量根本没保障。这是印度独立以来最严重的腐败现象，我们辛苦挣来的税款正被人肆无忌惮地掠夺！

Drganguli
These aspects of engineering are very well standardised. The problem is that people are signing off on designs without looking carefully and the second problem is use of low quality materials or cutting corners by the builders and contractors. That is a systemic problem and not a civil engineering problem

工程领域的这些方面都有很完善的标准。问题一是有人在审批设计方案时根本不仔细看就签字；问题二是建筑商和承包商使用劣质材料，或者在施工中偷工减料。这是一个系统性问题，而非土木工程项目本身的问题。

wayneseq
Thanks to The Print team for highlighting this issue. It's the only way the authorities responsible will be held accountable. These contractors are looting from the funds allocated to make India great

感谢《印刷报》团队曝光这个问题。只有这样，负责的当局才会被追究责任。这些承包商正在从“建设伟大印度”的专项拨款中掠夺资金。

InsideMyWall
The govt engineering officers are the most corrupt

政府部门的工程官员是最腐败的群体。

Ryan-pm4fk
MODI, BJP POCKETING PUBLIC MONEY

莫迪、印度人民党（BJP）在侵吞公款！

SkpalTube
Civil engineers have no say over the corrupt politicians and their contractors. No political party wants to solve this as it would hurt thier finances.

面对腐败的政客及其关联承包商，土木工程师没有任何话语权。没有哪个政党愿意解决这个问题，因为这会损害他们的经济利益。

PremP990
As a Civil Engineer I vehemently disagree with people in Coments saying that this is not a Civil Engineering crisis. It absolutely is. A proud civil engineer would never make such lousy infrastructure. Civil engineers are underpaid and overworked more than anyone else in Engineering. We also have no Avenue to start our own firms as only big businesses can afford them. You will not see Civil Engineering start ups. You will see IT, Electronics, and even Mechanical engineering start ups but not Civil Engineering ones. State of Civil Engineering and Civil Engineers is the reason for poor infrastructure.

作为一名土木工程师，我坚决反对评论区里那些说“这不是土木工程危机”的观点。这绝对是土木工程领域的危机。一个有职业自豪感的土木工程师，绝不会造出这么劣质的基础设施。在工程行业里，土木工程师的薪资最低，工作却最繁重。我们也没有机会创办自己的公司，因为只有大公司才有能力承担相关成本。你看不到土木工程领域的初创公司，能看到的是IT、电子甚至机械工程领域的初创公司，但土木工程领域根本没有。土木工程行业的现状以及土木工程师的处境，才是基础设施质量差的原因

vikramheble9972
Please check how many IIT Civil Engineers have migrated to IT or go abroad or want to become an IAS offr. Sadly, only the incompetent of this stream join the Gadkari Sena.

不妨去看看，印度理工学院（IIT）的土木工程师有多少转行去了IT行业、移民国外，或者想成为印度行政服务官员。可悲的是，只有这个领域里能力不行的人，才会加入“加德卡里军团”。

sagarsingh4496
Corporate Manslaughter Laws are needed in this country to punish the erring contractors. Also the govt. officers incharge of monitoring the quality of construction should face the public, explaining the lapses not just on the contractor's part but also on his part.

印度需要制定“法人过失杀人法”，用以惩罚那些失职的承包商。此外，负责监管建筑质量的政府官员也应该面对公众，解释不仅是承包商存在的失误，还有他们自身的失职之处。

mudra5114
Things built during the British Empire age in India are well designed and still stand. In spite of the fact that the technology of that period was less advanced than today, like no computers during that time. Think about it

英国殖民印度时期建造的东西，设计精良，至今还在使用。尽管当时的技术远不如现在先进，比如那时候还没有电脑。大家好好想想吧。

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