中国是否落后韩国15年

Is China 15 years behind South Korea?

中国是否落后韩国15年?

以下是Quora读者的评论：

Bryant Jimin Son

Being a Korean American, I neither know how to answer this question nor have a clue knowing where that 15 thing came from. But I do know one thing for sure. The ratio of Chinese population vs Korean population is 27.45:1, so it is truly meaningless to ask this question to get any fact because the responses will be flooded by biased and opinionated Chinese.

作为一名韩裔美国人，我既不知道该如何回答这个问题，也完全不清楚那个“领先15年”的说法从何而来。但有一点可以确定。中国人口与韩国人口的比例是27.45 : 1，所以问这个问题其实是毫无意义的，因为得到的回复会被带有偏见和主观意见的中国人的观点所淹没。

But… Let me still try to answer the actual question. Again, I want to state that this is my opinion.

It is important not to confuse the economy of scale vs the innovation itself. Innovation is a state while the economy of scale is the overall throughput. If you just think about the economy of scale, you are absolutely right that the China is much better and “advanced” than South Korea. I mean, come on. You cannot possibly compare the country with over a billion population with a country that just has two digits million population. Right, there are Nigeria and other countries that have large populations but not doing so well, but that is we are taking about the economy of scale, which is also tied to the economy itself, which does have innovation attached to it. But let’s switch the gear to the innovation part.

但是我还是尝试来回答一下这个问题吧。再次强调，这只是我的个人观点。

不要把规模经济和创新本身混为一谈，这一点很重要。创新是一种状态，而规模经济是整体的产出量。如果你只考虑规模经济，那你说中国比韩国要好得多、“先进得多”，这绝对没错。我的意思是，拜托，你不可能把一个拥有超过10亿人口的国家和一个只有几千万人口的国家相提并论。没错，尼日利亚和其他一些国家人口众多，但发展得并不好，但我们这里讨论的是规模经济，而规模经济也与经济本身相关，而经济本身确实也与创新挂钩。但现在让我们把话题转到创新方面。

Semiconductor:

Yes, Chinese did catch up to Samsung in terms of memory semiconductor or even close to surpass. However, that is the future state. Samsung has been leading so far before. For CPU or GPU, that is a different story because the lead architecture are mostly made by the US companies, and the chips are manufacturing in Taiwan.
半导体：

是的，在存储半导体方面，中国人已经赶上了三星，甚至差一点就能超越。然而，那是以后。到目前为止，三星一直处于领先地位。至于中央处理器（CPU）或图形处理器（GPU），那就是另一回事了，因为领先的架构大多是由美国公司设计的，而且芯片是在中国台湾地区制造的。

Smartphones:

Again, Samsung and LG have been leading before, and companies like iomi and Huawei caught up. If you just compare the number of units sold, true. China probably sold more. But you have to take a look at the Chinese population and global exports. True, Chinese phones now flash pretty inexpensive premium phones. But that is just now, and we are talking about a decade before according to the question.

Electrical Vehicle:

I agree. China is clearly years ahead of South Korea, but it is definitely not a decade.

智能手机：

同样，三星和LG以前一直处于领先地位，而小米和华为等公司后来居上。如果你只比较手机的销售数量，确实，中国可能卖得更多。但你得考虑中国的人口数量以及全球出口情况。没错，现在中国的手机推出了价格相当实惠的高端机型。但这只是现在的情况

电动汽车：

我同意，中国显然比韩国领先好几年，但肯定不到十年。

AI/ML:

China is now competing against head-to-toe with the US, so South Korea is definitely behind. However, it is not like a decade for sure because everyone just started few yeas back.

Social network or other softwares:

I know WeChat is so advanced as well as Tik Tok, Temu and few other things. But in terms of technology itself, South Korea is not that behind as Korea has Kakao, Naver, Danggeyn, and many other tech companies. South Korea, in fact, is one of the leading software powers in APAC. South Korea companies just do not have a global presence.

人工智能/机器学习：

中国现在正与美国全面竞争，所以韩国肯定是落后的。然而，肯定也没有落后十年那么多，因为大家都是在几年前才刚刚起步。

社交网络或其他软件：

我知道微信非常先进，还有TikTok、Temu以及其他一些产品。但就技术本身而言，韩国并没有落后太多，因为韩国有Kakao、Naver、Danggeyn以及许多其他科技公司。实际上，韩国是亚太地区领先的软件强国之一。韩国的公司只是没有在全球范围内广泛的影响力而已。

City development:

If I see photos and videos of Chinese cities, I agree they look more advanced than some of South Korea’s major cities like Seoul and Pusan. But building those skyscrapers require money, which mean that we need to talk about the economy of scale. Oh, by the way, did you know many major skyscrappers around the world have been built by South Korea construction companies?

城市发展：

如果看中国城市的照片和视频，我承认它们看起来比韩国的一些主要城市，比如首尔和釜山，要更先进。但建造那些摩天大楼需要资金，这意味着我们又得谈到规模经济了。哦，顺便说一下，你知道吗，世界上许多主要的摩天大楼都是由韩国建筑公司建造的？

Jay Yan

Is China 15 years behind South Korea?

Not overall, but some aspects.

Like GDP per capita, China’s is $12600. South Korea achieved that in the early 1990’s. Considering inflation, on this aspect, China is behind South Korea by almost 30 years.

But if not considering “per capita” measurements and politics, there are few areas that China is behind South Korea, let alone 15 years behind. For an average individual, in S. Korea probably is better than in China. For the whole country, China is more likely ahead of S. Korea instead of behind, as S. Korea is just too small compared with China. It's like no matter how great Belgium’s economy is, it’s hard to be compared with that of Germany’s.

中国落后韩国15年吗？

并非在整体上落后，但在某些方面存在差距。

比如在GDP，中国的人均GDP是12600美元。韩国在20世纪90年代初就达到了这个水平。考虑到通货膨胀因素，在这方面，中国差不多落后韩国30年。

但是，如果不考虑“人均”相关的衡量标准以及政治方面，中国落后韩国的领域其实很少，更不用说落后15年了。普通人在韩国生活可能比在中国要好。但就整个国家而言，中国更有可能是领先于韩国而非落后，因为与中国相比，韩国实在是太小了。这就好比无论比利时的经济有多出色，也很难与德国的经济相提并论。

Feng Lu

China doesn't think highly of South Korea. China doesn't have South Korea in its eyes.

To be honest, in China's eyes, South Korea is not as important as Vietnam.

At least, a large number of China's low-end manufacturing industries have been transferred to Vietnam; so China will spend time communicating with Vietnam.

中国并非很重视韩国。

说实话，从中国的角度来看，韩国没有越南重要。

至少，中国大量的低端制造业已经转移到了越南。中国愿意花时间与越南进行交流互动。

seMar 5

In fact, you can find in Quora that Koreans accuse Chinese of stealing South Korean technology, because South Koreans have the same psychology as white supremacists - they both believe that Chinese cannot create world-leading technology but have to face the fact that China has advanced technology, and "stealing technology" can explain this contradiction very well.

The Chinese must have used the time machine to travel to the future to steal the Deepseek and the 6th gen warplane of the whites and Koreans.

事实上，你能在Quora上发现，韩国人指责中国人窃取韩国技术，因为韩国人有着和白人至上主义者一样的心态——他们都认为中国人不可能研发出世界领先的技术，但又不得不面对中国拥有先进技术这一事实，而“窃取技术”这种说法能很好地解释他们内心的这种矛盾。

中国人肯定是使用了时光机穿越到未来，才“偷”到了Deepseek技术以及白人和韩国人的第六代战机技术。

Mickelson Moaselle

Korea is way behind china in anything these days, the production capacity of china is eating up all the industry that are traditionally dominated by Korean

The only thing left now is semiconductor because America is supporting Korean semiconductor by banning sales of equipments to China and that's all once china is capable to make its own equipment Korean semiconductor will collapse

如今，韩国在各个方面都远远落后于中国。中国的生产能力正在蚕食所有传统上由韩国主导的产业。

现在韩国仅存的优势领域是半导体行业，美国禁止向中国出售相关设备，扶持韩国的半导体产业。但也就仅此而已了，一旦中国有能力制造自己的设备，韩国的半导体产业就会崩溃。