China's J-36 & J-50 - First Impressions
中国歼-36和歼-50——初印象
It was on December the 26th, 2024, that images started to emerge from China of what appeared to be two new stealthy jets performing test flights. After a month, we still know little about these aircraft apart from what can be extrapolated from the vision available. Are these technology demonstrators, or developmental prototypes doing test flying before the production stage? We don’t know yet. We can be confident that China wanted the West to see these prototypes, an interesting play - sabre rattling at the very least.
在2024年12月26日,中国两架新型隐形战机进行试飞的图像开始传出。一个月过去了,我们仍然对这些飞机知之甚少,除了可以从现有的视觉推断出来的东西。这些技术演示或发展原型在生产阶段之前进行试飞过吗?我们还不知道。我们可以确信,中国希望西方看到这些原型机,这是一个有趣的游戏——至少是炫耀武力。
以下是外国网友的评论:
bbharatillusion4574
Only a pilot and aircraft designer can appreciate how difficult it is to make a tailless plane fly. The science and tech behind these aircraft is insane.
只有飞行员和飞机设计师才能体会到制造一架无尾飞机有多么困难。这些飞机背后的科技是疯狂的。
Mandom007
Ppl might question the credibility & capabilities of these jets, rightfully so, to them i would say look at it like this, China is leading the world in high speed railway, in EV cars and green energies. Not to mention th open source deepseek AI model which is better than chatgpt, but at a loser cost and free for use.
人们可能会质疑这些战机的可信度和能力,这是很自然的。我会对他们说,中国在高铁、电动汽车和绿色能源方面领先世界,更不用说开源的deepseek AI模型,它比chatgpt更好,但成本很低,而且免费使用。
minhmeo9506
J-36 seems to be a long-range fighter-bomber model which was designed to reach the First Island Chain with huge payload weight.
歼-36似乎是一种远程战斗轰炸机模型,旨在以巨大的有效载荷到达第一岛链。
aquilarossa5191
China is catching up huh? People should not underestimate Asia. The USA and UK made that mistake before. They initially found themselves outclassed at sea and in the air by Japan in WWII. I doubt China wants war though. They get rich on trade and that requires peace. They would not want those revenue streams messed up if they can help it.
中国正在迎头赶上,人们不应低估亚洲。美国和英国以前就犯过这样的错误。在二战中,他们最初发现自己在海上和空中都被日本超越。中国不想要战争。他们靠贸易致富,而这需要和平。如果可以的话,他们不希望收入流被打乱。
changliu3915
I feel sorry for soldiers stationed in Guam.
我为驻扎在关岛的士兵感到难过。
Mohammadali-cs8gi
if history is anything to go by and then possibly china would not go to war or interfere in other nations to the extent US has done in the last 130 years.
如果历史可以借鉴的话,那么中国可能不会像美国在过去130年里所做的那样参战或干涉其他国家。
zhangwhack
Americans in the comment will mention:
Temu, copycat, copy, cheap, stolen, steal, fake, …
美国人会在评论中提到:
Temu、山寨、廉价、偷来的、假的……
zeissiez
What pushes China towards develo high technological weaponries? Just take a look at how China is being surrounded by US military bases.
是什么推动中国发展高科技武器?看看中国是如何被美国军事基地包围的。
Nero-Caesar
I'm glad I'm alive to see these incredible developments coming out of china it's truly amazing
看到中国这些令人难以置信的发展,真的很了不起
justinliu7357
China: build a plane
Australia: Why are you threatening me?
中国:造了一架飞机
澳大利亚:你为什么威胁我?
howcc6973
a lot of people still always think about dogfighting while missile today can shoot hundreds or even almost thousand miles away
许多人仍然总是想着近距缠斗,而今天的导弹可以打击到数百甚至近千英里远
zhishiqiji
highly likely developmental prototypes ,cause China just doesn't do technology demonstrators.Every Chinese jet we have seen the last 20 years,from j10 to j20 and even FC31(j35) made into service.
很可能是原型,因为中国不做技术演示。我们在过去20年里看到的每一架中国飞机,从歼10到歼20,甚至FC31(歼35)都服役了。
mokulashi
when China publically reveal something , it usually mean they already have something better if you know Chinese well
当中国公开透露一些东西时,通常意味着他们已经有更好的东西了
Ikenna-ms2pz
China is a serious country
中国是一个认真严肃的国家
AAAAAA-tj1nq
Full broadspectrum stealth. It can get close to enemy and lob missiles without being detected
全广谱隐身。它可以在不被发现的情况下接近敌人并发射导弹
honfmeilingfleet957
i am waiting for those Planes added to Modern Warships game
等待这些飞机加入现代战舰游戏
ioanbota9397
They are so powerful I like it
太强大了,我喜欢
JWC-p3m
Who is inciting and targeting around China.
China is just protecting itself to make sure it doesn't get bullied again.
Who has China invaded? China has suffered a lot in the past 200 years.
老是说中国威胁,威胁了谁? 谁在中国周边四处扇动与针对。
中国只是在自保,确保自己不再受欺负。
中国侵略过了谁? 过去这200年来中国受的创伤太多了。
要说中国威胁,也只是威胁到了资本不能售卖高价物品,所以极力打压。
pisablavatsky-cb3dd
Naze west is nervous now
西方现在很紧张
yaoypl
The frightening thing is that once China is on par with the United States in terms of advanced technologies (China has already surpassed the US in the area of hypersonic missiles and 6th-gen fighters...and more, IDK), China has a massive industrial capacity; it can quickly and cheaply crank out weapon systems like no one's business and win wars simply by overwhelming any adversaries.
可怕的是,一旦中国在先进技术方面与美国平起平坐(中国已经在高超音速导弹和第6代战斗机领域超过了美国)……更重要的是,中国拥有巨大的工业产能;它可以快速而廉价地制造出无人机=武器系统,仅仅靠压倒对手就能赢得战争。
賴志偉-d7h
The US sent carriers thousands of miles overseas and China showing a new plane at home is "sabre-rattling".
美国派遣航母到数千英里外的海外,而中国在国内展示一架新战机就是“武力恫吓”?
Flyinghigh3597
The J36 is definitely not a fighter bomber. It is an interceptor specially for interception of B2s or B21s !
歼-36绝对不是战斗轰炸机。这是专门用于拦截B2s或b21的拦截器!
cagedrex6584
The J-36 seems to have a long and narrow weapons bay, i wonder if this is intended to hold some sort of anti ship missile as well for naval attacks.
歼-36似乎有一个又长又窄的武器舱,我想知道这是否打算携带某种反舰导弹,用于海上攻击。
laowantongchau
The J36 will be a fighter bomber with long range and huge bomb load. The J50 will be a air superiority fighter both for the PLAAF and PLAN, likely a carrier model will surface later.
Both are closed to be the final design models, seeing them test flying over densely populated cities.
歼-36将是一种具有远程和巨大载弹量的战斗轰炸机。歼-50将成为解放军的空中优势战斗机,很可能稍后会有一种航母型号浮出水面。两架飞机的最终设计模型都已确定,它们将在人口密集的城市上空进行试飞。
Kelvin-e9y
A week prior to the debut of the J-36 and J-50, China quietly test-flew the H-20 China heavy strategic long-range 5th-generation stealth bomber. The J-36 is a 6th-generation fighter-bomber and may be renamed the H-21 in the future.
在歼-36和歼-50首次亮相前一周,中国悄悄试飞了轰-20中国重型战略远程第五代隐形轰炸机。歼-36是第六代战斗轰炸机,未来可能更名为轰-21。
JBear-iq8ns
There were three aircraft being displayed. You just can't see the third one. That is the seventh generation...
展出了三架战机,只是你们看不见第三架,这是第七代…
Huaxa-u1b
There will likely still be the JH-XX aircraft and the H-20 Bomber aircraft, they're just still in development.
可能还会有JH-XX和H-20轰炸机,还在研发中。
eleanorsmith2558
“Challenge to the US and its allies”. Which allies? It’s just US and a few pawns.
“对美国及其盟友的挑战”。哪个盟友?只有我们和几个小兵。
OleDiaBole
Chinese nature and political ways are abssolute contrast from British, French, American, German or Belgian ways. Thank God this hard working, peacefull nation is surpasing eternal-invaders and-parasites.
中国的方式与英国、法国、美国、德国或比利时形成了绝对的对比。感谢上帝,这个勤劳、和平的国家正在超越侵略者和寄生虫。
MrMordechaiAnilevich
F22 Raptor technology is over 27 years old now. The USA only has about 200 of them. While the only serious combat deployment by the F35 has been by the Israelis. Apparently, the Israelis are not completely happy with the F35.
F22猛禽的技术已经有27年了。美国只有大约200架。虽然F35唯一的实战部署是以色列人进行的。显然,以色列人对F35并不完全满意。
Truthstelling
Thanks to the US surrounding China with hundreds of military bases large n small. China has no choice but to work hard to develop advanced equipment to defend herself to push the bully out of the first island chain. And soon the second island chain. This is what happen when you push someone against the wall in her front yard
因为美国在中国周围建立了数百个大大小小的军事基地。中国别无选择,只能努力研发先进的装备来保卫自己,把恶霸赶出第一岛链。很快第二个岛链也会出现。这就是你在人家前院把人家逼到墙角的后果
theweakthemightythecrazy
Others are working on 5th gen, China got 2 6th gens flying.
其他国家正在研制第五代机,中国已经试飞了第6代机。
zunwang4918
Behold, the table has been turned.
看,形势已经逆转了。
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