China’s J-36 Moving Toward Production | US Pilots Review the Photos

中国歼-36即将量产，美军飞行员评析相关照片

Footage circulating on X shows China’s alleged sixth-generation fighter, the J-36, flying without a pitot tube installed — a sign that early test-flight fundamentals may be complete.

Is this genuine acceleration of the program, did the pitot tube just fall off, is the J-36 even a fighter?

国外社交平台推特上流传的画面显示，中国疑似第六代战机歼-36在飞行时未安装空速管，这表明早期基础试飞工作或已完成。

这是项目真的在加速？是空速管意外脱落？还是歼-36根本就不是战斗机？

以下是各国网友的评论：

timothychung4811
I have noticed that myself... Good to see!

我自己也注意到了这个变化，很高兴看到这一点。

akakakakakak3084
Laugh when you are still able to laugh

趁现在还能笑得出来，就尽情笑吧。

samanthajones4877
They say the J-36 looks like a dorito. I say it looks more like a piece of pie, humble pie to be exact.

别人说歼-36长得像玉米片，我倒觉得它更像一块用来让人认错的打脸馅饼。

KC_Smooth
You guys only hear what you want to hear. They were laughing

你们只愿意听自己想听的，他们明明就是在嘲笑。

ColonelJohnmatrix1000
They are laughable. Engine that only last 1000 before a missive overhaul. Absolute junk

这东西简直可笑，发动机只用1000小时就要大修，完全就是垃圾。

Dan-v7y1o
That silhouette screams long-range bomber hunter, exactly the kind of platform meant to challenge assets like B-2 and B-21. The tired claim that China only copies others doesn’t survive contact with reality anymore; whatever this is, it represents a leap well beyond imitation.

这个外形一看就是远程猎杀轰炸机的机型，专门用来对抗B-2、B-21这类装备。“中国只会模仿”的老论调已经完全站不住脚，不管这是什么，它都代表了远超模仿的巨大技术飞跃。

peterwilson7532
There's a lot of co going on with the rise of China getting stuff done, making high quality products now, innovating in space, now more practically with military hardware including there latest flat top. All those STEM qualified Asian bright sparks are definitely starting to have an impact. Who knows maybe they have a better culture that will kick all our butts by 2040. Instead of the anti-science conspiratorial culture consuming US社会. Science is power, forget that at your peril. Too many crap degrees in the West.

中国不断崛起，造出了高质量产品、实现了航天突破，还有先进的军事装备和最新航母，可很多人还在嘴硬不愿承认。大批亚裔理工科人才已经开始发挥影响力，说不定到2040年，他们的整体实力就会全面超越我们。现在的美国充斥着反科学阴谋论，西方的垃圾文凭太多，要知道科学就是力量，忽视这一点只会自食恶果。

surgeonsergio6839
Ooo, that's a good theory, anti-stealth bomber role.

哦，这个分析很有道理，它的定位就是反隐身轰炸机。

johnwhoo6194
These guys are supposed experts, real fighter pilots, but their discussions are so shallow without any significant insights, sad.

这些人号称是专业人士、正经战斗机飞行员，可分析起来却非常肤浅，完全没有有价值的见解，实在可悲。

AlvinYap510
Expecting a bus driver to know about engineering and automotive is asking a bit too much

指望他们懂这些，就像指望公交车司机精通汽车工程一样，根本不现实。

future_deleted_comment
How can they be experts on a classified Chinese military project? Was it an intentional self-own to also give zero insight?

他们怎么可能了解中国的机密军工项目？完全说不出有用信息，这不是自己打自己脸吗？

cohcoh668
Uber drivers discussing a new Ferrari

这就像网约车司机在评论新款法拉利一样外行。

RMJTOOLS
Usually deltas can hold a lot of fuel due to internal volume.

三角翼的机身内部空间大，通常可以携带大量燃油。

umarfkhawaja
This is a carrier-killer, I think.

我认为这就是专门对付航母的杀手。

Dannovick
During NGAD selection process Lockheed Martin's proposal has been rumored to have been a kind of "aerial cruiser" concept. It would have been an expensive, multi-crewed, low production, control platform for CCA drones. Part of the arithmetic for choosing Boeing and F-47 seems to be that it was cheaper, higher production, less speculative i.e. traditional fighter logic, kept Boeing employed, and made use of single pilot + AI to act as quarterback. Just looking at the J-36 and the J-50 it superficially looks to me like China has opted to test and potentially produce both 6th gen concepts, the Aerial Cruiser and the Fighter.

美国NGAD项目竞标时，洛克希德·马丁提出的是“空中武库舰”方案，造价高、多乘员、产量低，主要用于指挥无人机。最终选中波音的F-47，是因为它成本更低、产量更高、设计更稳妥，符合传统战机思路，还能保住波音的就业岗位，并采用单飞行员加AI指挥的模式。从外观来看，中国似乎打算同时测试甚至量产两种六代机方案，分别是空中武库舰和制空战斗机，也就是歼-36和歼-50。

dadforever5049
J36 is beyond our imagination.

歼-36已经超出了我们的想象。

EagleKnight35
The Chengdu J-20 "Mighty Dragon" offers several advantages over the F-35 Lightning II, primarily driven by its design as a larger, long-range interceptor optimized for regional air denial. Key advantages include superior speed and acceleration, a greater operational range, larger internal weapon capacity for long-range air-to-air missiles, and potentially better agility

成飞的歼-20威龙相比F-35闪电II有不少优势，它的体型更大、航程更远，是专为区域拒止设计的远程截击机，主要优势体现在速度和加速能力更强、作战半径更大、内置弹舱可携带更多远程空空导弹，机动性也可能更出色。

lwty
J-36 is for air dominance. In that sense, it is a fighter instead of an interceptor. It is designed to control a large area.

歼-36的定位是夺取制空权，从这个角度来说它是制空战斗机，而不是截击机，设计目标就是控制大范围空域。

guangxdavidliu
for direct energy weapons and avionics.

它的设计是为了搭载定向能武器和先进航电系统。

FrankZhang-pj9nn
big size, high-speed, three engines mean it has more powerful radar and long-range missiles. the target is Guam.

体型大、速度快、采用三发动机，意味着它可以搭载功率更强的雷达和远程导弹，打击目标直指关岛。

silenthill1035
3 engines are to carry temporary-below-stationary-orbit satellites for locating moving targets at sea and islands.

三发动机设计是为了能够发射近地临时卫星，用于定位海上和岛屿上的移动目标。

robertcuellar4132
Side by side seating to me says bomber. The new jh 26 is the fighter bomber concept that's coming up.

并排双座的设计在我看来说明它是轰炸机，即将亮相的歼轰-26应该就是这种战斗轰炸机定位。

Ryak84
Looks like something that will throw PL-17 at you, with remote sensor platforms supporting it.

它看起来会在远程传感器平台的配合下，发射PL-17导弹进行攻击。

Andre-s1y5h
So these are the triangles I've seen flying around.

原来我之前看到的三角飞行器就是这个东西。

NetRubies
The tail in that shape tells me it's far more production ready

从这个尾翼形状能看出来，它已经非常接近量产状态了。

MrChaosi
oh that thing is designed to fly waay out into the pacific and intercept american navel vessels

这东西明显是为了深入太平洋、拦截美国海军舰艇设计的。

geewiz6638
Long range A-A targeting the air bridge across the Pacific with low observable/ stealth to reduce detection and facilitate targeting of HVT (AWACS etc)

它是远程空空作战平台，凭借隐身特性穿越太平洋空中走廊，专门打击预警机等高价值目标。

amenboughanmi5819
For sure it's long range 3000+ km because who uses miles and for sure it will not just hold air to air or intercepting role I think it's for the pacefic so more likely it will be a strike figher aside from PL15 and PL17 we are talking about long BVR missiles from 300km to 400km it will also carries anti radiation, ALCM cruise missiles and ALBM weapons to hit ships for 800km with the plane being big it's AESA radar will be bigger ans give more coverage and 3 engine will power supply the hungry radar or it can can use AWACS, the 2 seats means that a second operator will have Ucav and drones control either loitering drones, recon or fighting drones and wingman like Gj21 I think this is a new type of fighter an air battle cruiser delivering various types of heavy long range weaponry

它的航程肯定超过3000公里，绝对不只是制空或截击机，明显是面向太平洋的多用途打击战机。除了PL-15、PL-17这类三四百公里的远程空空弹，它还能携带反辐射导弹、巡航导弹和反舰导弹，打击距离可达800公里。机身大意味着有源相控阵雷达尺寸更大、探测范围更广，三台发动机能给雷达和电子设备提供充足电力，也可以配合预警机作战。双座设计说明第二名乘员可以控制各类无人机，包括巡飞弹、侦察无人机和攻击僚机。我认为这是一种全新的“空中武库舰”，可以搭载各种重型远程武器。

daviddorminey1434
I keep thinking a modern F-111 analog, people keep trying to put it as a normal fighter but I can help thinking this is something between an interceptor and small bomber.

我一直觉得它很像现代化版的F-111，大家总把它当成普通战机，但我认为它介于截击机和轻型轰炸机之间。

binyameen2740
China was working on a plan which will replace JH-7As which role as stop gap was taken J-11/16 and J-36 seems the one

中国一直在规划替换歼轰-7A，中间由歼-11、歼-16过渡，而歼-36看起来就是最终的替代型号。

calibaba2739
lots of Chinese language Channels discussing J36 features are very futuristic interesting. like Full wingtip control surface. 3 engines possibly new WS19 12 tone thrust. super efficient cursing, plenty of power for for radar, electronics, and laser weapons. can lead and control drone formations. long radius and long range missiles PL17 can take out Awacs and tankers…. these new capabilities are coming soon

很多中文频道都在说歼-36的设计非常科幻，比如全翼面控制、三台可能是WS-19的新型发动机，推力达到12吨级，巡航效率极高，能给雷达、电子设备和激光武器提供充足电力，还可以指挥无人机编队。它航程远，能使用PL-17导弹打击预警机和加油机，这些新能力很快就会实现。

Joseph55220
Based on the shape, this is clearly designed for sustained super-cruise way up in the bozosphere. Based on the layout and type of intakes, it seems probable that the two outboard engines are optimized for supersonic flight and will likely provide almost all the thrust when it's up at its operational altitudes/speeds (whatever those are). The massive dorsal intake (which seems to be for the centerline engine) is by far the most interesting part (in my opinion). It's almost impossible to make an inlet like that work for supersonic flight using any conventional means. The shape of it just is terrible for drag and trying to use an inlet ramp or similar device to pre-compress the intake air. However, in theory, if you could bypass the air around the engine once the aircraft got up to a speed/altitude at which you could no longer maintain subsonic internal airflow to that engine, you could use the two outboard engines to give you enough thrust to maintain the pressure differential you need to use that massive centerline dorsal intake to supply its afterburner with enough air to essentially turn it into a giant ram-jet with almost zero moving parts

从外形看，它明显是为高空长时间超巡设计的。从进气道布局判断，两侧发动机应该专为超音速优化，在作战高度和速度下提供主要推力。机背上的大型中央进气道是最有意思的设计，用传统方式根本没法在超音速下工作，形状阻力大，也没法用常规激波锥压缩气流。但理论上，当飞机飞到无法维持亚音速进气的高度和速度时，可以让中央发动机暂停进气，用两侧发动机维持速度和压力，再让中央进气道给加力燃烧室供气，直接变成一台几乎没有活动部件的巨型冲压发动机。

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