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我的一个印度南方朋友说,印度政府把在印度南方收上来的钱投资到印度北方,是真的吗?

One of my South Indian friend said that the Indian government makes money from South India and invests it in North India. Is it true?

我的一个南印度朋友说,印度政府把印度南方赚的钱投资到印度北方。是真的吗?

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以下是Quora网友的评论:

Jaspreet Singh

Well , major chunk of the tax revenue comes from formal sector, and the major chunk of the GDP comes from the service sector- both of these are concentrated in the south and west. So the statement is essentially true.But what’s also true is that a lot of North Indians work in these sectors too. Hence they are also part of the tax paying population. Anyways, North India is an agriculture intensive zone, and agriculture is exempt from taxes. Hence, not much income for the government here. However north is responsible for providing the most important commodity- food - which it’s doing pretty well even though it is no longer a profitable venture.

税收收入的大头来自正规部门,GDP的主要部分来自服务业——这两个部门都集中在印度的南部和西部。所以这个说法本质上没毛病。但你的朋友忽略了一个事实,很多北印度人也在这些行业工作。所以他们也属于纳税人口。北印度是农业密集地区,农业是免征税收的。所以北印度政府的收入不高。但北印度肩负着最重要的商品的生产——食物——尽管农业生产利润不高,但北印度在这方面表现十分突出。

But reading other answers on this thread , I feel some south Indians see this as a ‘Burden’ . Well, just because the north is not contributing in monetary terms , doesn’t mean that the north is enjoying free lunches . Lets not forget, when the entire nation was facing famines and acute food shortage, it was the north that turned the tables. And that entire ‘burden’ of making this nation food surplus was put on just 3 states - Punjab, Haryana and UP(west). The side-effects of which are haunting these states now. But do you see us blaming the south Indians for it ?

但我读了其他回答,似乎有些南印度人认为北印度是一种“负担”。好吧,就因为北方在货币方面做出的贡献比较小,并不意味着北方坐享其成。我们别忘了,当整个印度面临饥荒和严重的粮食短缺时,是北印度扭转了局势。为国家生产多余粮食的“负担”只落在了旁遮普、哈里亚纳邦和北方邦(西部)的肩上。这些邦目前还饱受困扰。但我们会因此责怪南印度人吗?

And as for the distribution of resources, India is essentially built on the model of a welfare state. So the govt. is bound to put its resources in the areas where they are needed the most. The vote bank argument is also valid though.

至于资源分配,印度本来就是建立在福利国家的模式之上的。所以政府必然会把资源投入到最需要资源的地方。不过,“选票银行”的说法也站得住脚。

 

 

 

Kalyan Prakash Dasika

True

没错

South india is comprised of Tamilnadu, Kerala, Karnataka, Telangana & AndhraPradesh. The total tax revenue of these 5 states for the year 2015–16 is 3,08,880 crores, where as the total tax revenue of india is 9,32,210 crores. That is 33% of the tax revenue is generated from these five states. Maharastra is the state which generates the highest tax revenue at 1,30,580 crores for that year. So that brings the total tax revenue generated by maharastra is 14% of india’s tax revenue. In total the above mentioned five states generate ~48% of the total tax revenue that is generated in the year 2015–16.

南印度由泰米尔纳德邦、喀拉拉邦、卡纳塔克邦、特伦甘纳邦和安得拉德邦组成。2015-16年度,这5个邦的总税收为308880亿卢比,而印度的总税收为932210亿卢比。也就是说这五个邦贡献了全国33%的税收。马哈拉施特拉邦是当年税收最高的邦,达到13580亿卢比。因此,马哈拉施特拉邦产生的税收总额占印度税收总额的14%。总的来说,上述五个州在2015-16年度产生的税收总额中占48%。

The aggregate expenditure on the 5 states of south india is 6,49,259 crores where as the total aggregate expenditure of all india is 2,444,955 crores which makes it 26% of total expenditure of all india expenditure. If you include Maharastra the total expenditure is 36% of that of total india expenditure.

So all in all the amount of revenue generated in the south indian states is more than the amount of expenditure on the south indian states at least by 7% and if we include Maharastra that goes up to 20%.

南印度5个邦的总支出为649259亿卢比,整个印度的总支出为2444955亿卢比,占印度总支出的26%。如果算上马哈拉施特拉邦,总支出占到印度总支出的36%。

所以总的来说,印度南部各邦的收入至少比印度南部各邦的支出高出7%,如果我们把马哈拉施特拉邦也包括在内,这一比例就高达20%。

 

 

 

SanRa

It is not true simply.

这不是事实。

It is indeed true that some states get back less than what they contribute. This is because of the unequal development of the different states of India. Richer states have to compensate for the poorer. Since, the Southern and Western States are richer than Northern States, it looks as if the Government makes money from these states but invests in the poorer states (Northern and Eastern).

的确,一些邦获得的回报低于他们的贡献。这是因为印度各邦的发展并不平衡。富裕的邦必须帮扶不富裕的邦。由于南部和西部各邦比北部各邦富裕,所以看起来好像政府把这些邦赚的钱投资于较贫穷的邦(北部和东部各邦)。

But you can't simply ignore the fact that states like Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Gujarat and Karnataka couldn't have become richer without Northern States. It is absurd to believe that these states would have been richer if they were independent countries.

但你不能简单地忽视这样一个事实:如果没有北方各邦,马哈拉施特拉邦、泰米尔纳德邦、古吉拉特邦和卡纳塔克邦也不可能富裕。“如果这些国家变成独立国家,就会更富有”,这种想法简直太荒谬了。

The coastal states were built on the resources from Northern States. Bihar, Jharkhand, West Bengal, Chattisgarh, Odisha are the most resource-rich states in India. Just because we (South) are part of the same country as them, they had to share all their resources (the advantage they had over us) which I believe is one of the biggest resource exploitations in the history of mankind. Read more about Freight equalisation policy - Wikipedia. Don't forget these states were the richest states in India before Independence.

沿海各邦的经济发展是建立在北方各邦资源的基础上的。比哈尔邦、贾坎德邦、西孟加拉邦、恰蒂斯加尔邦、奥里萨邦是印度资源最丰富的邦。因为我们(南方)和他们同属一个国家,他们必须分享他们的所有资源,我认为这是人类历史上最大的资源剥削之一。别忘了这些邦在独立前都是印度最富有的邦。

To conclude, the Union Government collects money from all states and distributes across all states. Richer states' money are indeed used to build poorer states. Southern states were also once poor once. Who knows, Northern States could get richer than Southern states in the future. When that happens, Northern States might complain that they get back less than what they contribute.

综上所述,联邦政府用所有邦上缴的钱在各邦之间进行调配。富裕邦的钱确实会被用来建设不富裕的邦。南方各邦也曾一度贫穷。谁知道呢,也许将来北方各邦也可能会比南方各邦更加富有。到那个时候,北方各邦可能也会抱怨他们的回报低于付出。

We are all one big family. All the states are children of mother India. Just because one child earns more, she doesn't give more food to that particular child. Everybody gets the same food. As a child, I am happy to share my earning with my brothers and sisters as well. I never think that I should get more because I earn more.

我们各邦是一个大家庭。所有邦都是印度母亲的孩子。不会因为一个孩子挣得多,就给那个孩子更多的食物。每个孩子都能吃上同样多的食物。作为一个孩子,我也很乐意与我的兄弟姐妹分享我的收入。我从不认为我赚得多,就应该得到更多。

 

 

 

Tabrez Memon

Yes partially true because GDP contribution of southern and Western India forms significant chunk of our economy.Majority of companies operate in this part of our country (NCR is exception) because of state government supporting the new setup and growth of industries with minimal red tape. So collections of income tax is higher in this part of country which then is managed by central government for providing packages to states which are classified as “poor”.States like chattisgarh,jharkhand, Assam also included in poor states though they are not located in proper North India .While there are some states in northern India like Punjab ,haryana,H.P which Don't necessarily need economic stimulus from central government but states like Bihar ,J&k,U.P do need.

半对半错吧,因为印度南部和西部各邦对GDP的贡献占到印度经济的很大一部分。大多数公司都集中在这个地区,因为这些邦政府支持初创企业和工业发展。所以这个地区的所得税收入较高,交由中央政府管理,为“不富裕邦”提供一揽子计划。恰蒂斯加尔邦、贾坎德邦、阿萨姆邦等邦虽然不属于印度北部,也被列入不富裕邦。有些邦不一定需要中央政府的经济扶助,但比哈尔邦、查谟克什米尔、印度、印度等邦需要。

 

 

 

Anand Gowda

I read this in kannada news paper of bangluru & it makes sense because after Maharashtra 2nd ,3rd & 4th is most revenus generated through taxes is from south India like Karnataka,Tamil nadu & Telangana , Andhra Pradesh.

我在班加罗尔的卡纳达新闻报纸上读到过这篇文章,我觉得挺有道理,因为在马哈拉施特拉邦大部分通过税收产生的收入来自印度南部,比如卡纳塔克邦、泰米尔纳德邦、泰伦加纳邦和安得拉邦。

 

 

 

Raja Gopal

The question should be does Indian government take money from south and west India and spend it in north and east India?

This is obvious because Maharashtra, Tamil Nadu, Karnataka and combined Andhra generates lots of revenue which actually is used by central government to distribute between states.

问题应该是,印度政府是否把印度南部和西部的钱花在了印度北部和东部?

答案是显而易见的,因为马哈拉施特拉邦、泰米尔纳德邦、卡纳塔克邦和安得拉邦创造了大量的收入,这些收入被中央政府征用,并在各邦之间进行分配。

Planning commission did it before and Nidhi ayog does it now under guidance of central government.

Important reasons from coastline to traditional business hub to IT boom everything happened here so it is normal for any central government to do this.

计划委员会以前就是这么做的,现在中央政府也是这么授意的。

从海岸线到传统商业中心再到IT业的蓬勃发展,一切都发生在印度南部,所以中央政府这样做也是正常。

 

 

 

P. Aditi

Indian gov makes money from north India and invests in South and East India. U and ur friend have the right to say anything. But Indian gov. makes money from all parts and invests it in underprivileged areas, to farmers, road development, army defence system, isro etc etc.

印度政府在印度北部收的钱,在印度南部和东部投资。你和你的朋友有权说任何话。但是印度政府把各个邦的钱集中起来,然后再把钱投资到贫困地区,投资给农民群体、道路建设、军队防御系统、空间研究组织等等。

 

 

 

Thangiah Kannan

In a way yes. But the reason being since South India is economically developed and have a percapita income high over the Hindi belt, and since the Hindi belt need to be improved to the overall improvement of India , the developed states share the burden of the poorly maintained Hindi belt. Even if it is seen as bad by some of the South Indians it is the necessity of the hour.

在某种程度上是的。但原因是,由于南印度地区经济发达,人均收入高于北印度地区,而且北印度地区的经济确实需要改善,才能让印度的整体经济得到改善。富裕邦分担了不富裕邦的发展压力。就算有些南印度人认为这不公平,但这的确是印度的当务之急。

 

 

 

Krishna Murthy

It is true, all central investments are more in UP and foreign investment and industrial investments are being shifted to Gujrath. The gov is playing active role behind in licensing permissions and direction to private sectors. Now a days even a few central government recruitments are from North and they are posted in south.

没错,所有中央投资都集中在北方邦,外国投资和工业投资正逐步转移到古吉拉特邦。政府在签发许可和指导私营部门方面都发挥着积极的作用。现在,甚至有些中央政府的招聘人员都是北印度人,被派往南印度工作。

 

 

 

Praveen Kumar

Yes absolutely from the past five years of average tax collected from south india is 42000 crores and return south india got only 20000 crores, when comes to north india they collected 15000 crores and got 50000 crores

是的,过去5年政府从南印度征收的平均税收是4200亿卢比,而南印度只分得2000亿卢比,而北印度缴纳了1500亿卢比,得到了5000亿卢比。

 

 

 

Rizan Khan Stane

This is somethimg that really irritates me about South Indians. You will find such arrogance everywhere from Yt comments to Twitter to here on Quora.On one hand you keep crying we are taking your jobs just bcoz say I am not from South India and on the other hand you keep boasting about paying more taxes than other states. I did hard work to get my job but you sat idle and want to snatch it just bcoz u r a local. Remember these taxes mostly come from the IT companies and MNCs of Bangalore or Chennai or Hyderabad, other people living outside these cities in South don't pay taxes. Now the Google headquarters are in Hyderabad. Can u tell me how many software engineers working there are actually from Hyderabad ? People from all parts of the country work here and sincerely pay their taxes as responsible citizens and not for some lazy born in South keyboard warrior to use it as a means to exert superiority on others. So stop this stupid concepts and start working for equal development of each states.

这就是南印度人最让我恼火的地方。这种傲慢无处不在,从Yt评论区到Twitter再到Quora,都是一样的调调。一方面,你们一直嚷嚷我们抢走了你们的工作机会。另一方面,你们一直吹嘘你们比其他邦缴纳的税更高。我是凭着自己的努力工作才得到的这份工作,而你却终日闲坐无所事事,因为自己是本地人就想抢走工作机会。记住,这些税主要是来自班加罗尔、金奈或海得拉巴的IT公司和跨国企业,除了这几个城市,其他南印度人也没有纳过什么税。现在谷歌的印度总部设在海德拉巴。你知道来自海得拉巴的软件工程师有多少吗?来自印度各地的员工都在这里工作,作为负责任的公民诚信纳税,而不是让一些懒惰成性南方键盘侠把这个事实当做显摆优越感的手段。所以不要继续传播这种愚蠢的概念了,大家都为印度各邦的平等发展而努力吧。

 

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