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美版知乎:印度女性的生存现状,她们的命运如何

Why in India womens treat like slave?

为什么印度妇女被当做奴隶?

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Sajman

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What are some of the worst issues faced by Indian women?

Over the weekend I was having a discussion with my wife regarding a few issues she faced growing up in India and this is what she had to say:

印度女性面临的一些最糟糕的问题是什么?

周末,我和妻子讨论了她在印度成长过程中遇到的一些问题,她提到了:

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Scenario 1:

事例1:

Born as a second girl child to a well educated parents in suburban Mumbai it was one of the happiest moments for her family and since she was born on the night of February 28th the general joke going around was that if she was born a few hours later , she would have been a “leap baby”. Apparently her grandmother had a different joke to tell altogether - “Oh no… a girl child again”.

她出生在孟买郊区的一个书香家庭,是家里的第二个女孩,那是她家里最幸福的时刻之一,因为她出生在2月28日晚上,所以人们普遍开玩笑说,如果她晚出生几个小时,她就会成为“闰婴”。但她的祖母则有另一个笑话要讲——“哦,不……又是个女孩”。

Luckily for her and more importantly for me she had one of the most loving parents she could have asked for - not all girls are lucky that way.

Today the national average for births is 933 girls to 1,000 boys; in 1991 it was 945. India has banned pre-natal scanning to determine the sex of a baby but female infanticide is still on the rise.

幸运的是,对她来说,更重要的是对我来说,她有一对世间难寻的最慈爱的父母——不是所有的女孩都这么幸运。

现在印度全国平均出生率为933:1000,而1991年的数字是945。印度已经禁止通过孕期B超来确定婴儿的性别了,但残杀女婴的情况仍在增多。

Scenario 2 :

事例2:

As a bright 8 year old she always stood first in her class and was way smarter than most kids her age. So when a 50 year old family friend tried to lure her with candy and tried making sexual advances towards her she remembered the talk she had with her mother a few months back on what is appropriate and what isn’t, which spared her an event that might have scarred her for life.

It is estimated over 53% of children face some form of abuse growing up in India and more often than not it is somebody within the family.

作为一个聪明的8岁孩子,她总在班上名列前茅,比多数同龄人都聪慧得多。所以,当一个50岁的世交长辈试图用糖果引诱她并对她进行性侵犯时,她想起了几个月前她和母亲谈论过什么行为是合适的,什么行为是不合适的,因此躲过了可能会给她留下终身创伤的不幸。

据估计,印度超过53%的儿童在成长过程中都遭遇过不同形式的虐待,而且始作俑者往往是家人。

Scenario 3 :

事例3:

Since she had an almost perfect academic record she was in a position to choose the best that college had to offer but with a downside- it was a 2 hour travel to the top university.

Now throughout her four year stint with college travelling in public transportation she has been leered at, teased and pushed around but one particular thing she still remembers is an instance where one over enthusiastic young man tried holding her hand with a very enticing offer “Hey baby…Chalti Kya (Want to come along)” confidently pushing aside his streaked brown hair. You could talk to any girl and I am sure they will have their own version of different unpleasant anecdotes they have heard while travelling.

因为她学习成绩无懈可击,她可以选择最好的大学,但有一点不好——她家距离这所顶尖大学需要2小时的车程。

在四年的大学生涯中,她乘坐公交车时被人送过秋波,被人戏弄过,被人推搡过,但她记忆深刻的一次是一个热情过头的年轻男子试图拉她的手,用非常诱惑的声音说:“嘿,宝贝……想不想一起呀?”还自信地拨了拨他一头挑染的棕色头发。你可以和女孩们聊聊,我相信她们都听过不少雷人的事。

According to reports, crime against a woman is committed every three minutes in India and many not reported due to social stigma in our society.

These are few of the many daily battles a woman has to endure in India and I am not talking about a woman who was born and bred in a rural environment. My wife is a highly educated and confident woman who had loving parents.

据报道,在印度,每三分钟就会发生一起针对女性的犯罪案件,但因为民众的社会耻辱心,很多案件都没有被报道出来。

这些都只是印度女性每天要忍受的众多不堪的冰山一角,我谈论的并不是某个在农村环境中出生长大的女性。我的妻子是受过高等教育的自信女性,有非常疼爱她的父母。

Indian women face threats to life at every stage - violence, inadequate health care, inequality, neglect, bad diet and well-being not to mention social evils like dowry and domestic abuse.

I saw a question the other day on quora which asked if you could name a great Indian woman but you don’t even have to turn your history books to find a great woman. It could be your mother, your sister or your wife who has strived hard to endure our patriarchal and misogynistic society.

True, times are changing and women of today are standing up to the social injustice but lets just hope the change is coming soon enough.

印度妇女在每个阶段都面临着生命威胁——暴力、缺医少药、不平等、被忽视、营养不良,生活不幸,更别提还有嫁妆和家庭虐待等社会陋习了。

前几天我在Quora上看到一个问题,问大家能否说出一个伟大的印度女性的名字,但你甚至不需要翻看历史书就能找到这样一个伟大的女性。她可能是你的母亲、你的姐妹或你的妻子,她们一直在努力忍受我们这个重男轻女的社会。

的确,时代在变化,今天的女性开始勇敢反抗社会不公,但让我们祈祷这种变化能尽快实现。

 

 

 

FK IK

Who are you? Where are you from? Who brainwashed you?

Since time immemorial, women in India are highly respected and valued for being women.

Just like on any part of the world, some exceptions might have exsted.

However, these days, men are being treated as slaves which is as dark truth as that of newmoon night. Please click on update botton in your knowledgeware.

你是谁?你从哪里来?是谁给你洗脑了?

自古以来,印度女性就因其女性身份而受到高度尊重和重视。

就像世界上其他地方一样,虽然可能也有一些例外。

但如今,男人们被当作奴隶,这是像新月夜一样黑暗的事实。请记得点击你认知软件里的更新按钮。

 

 

Ernest W. Adams

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Is and was there ever a society where woman were slaves (more than men)?

现在或者曾经是否有哪个社会,女人被当做奴隶(比男人严重)?

I don’t think there were any societies in which all women were only chattel slaves in the American sense. There have certainly been societies in which the freedom and rights of women was severely restricted. The present-day Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is one. Ancient Greece was another. But the women of Saudi Arabia are not slaves. Once indoors, they can live lives of considerable luxury; they just have very little control over it.

我觉得历史上没有哪个社会会把所有女性都当做美国意义上的奴隶。当然,在某些社会中,妇女的自由和权利受到了严重的限制。今天的沙特阿拉伯王国就是其中之一。古希腊是另一个例子。但是沙特阿拉伯的女人并非奴隶。在室内场所,她们过的可是相当奢侈的生活;她们只是无法掌控自己的人生。

In the modern world, more women than men are held in actual bondage because the primary function of slaves today is as prostitutes, not laborers or servants.

在现代社会,女性被奴役的情况比男性更多,因为现代奴隶的主要功能是充当妓女,而非苦力或奴仆。

 

 

 

Sanjit Sinhasan

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Do India still have slaves?

Yes, India still has slaves. We all have witnessed them or read about them but ignored them.

印度还有奴隶吗?

是的,印度现在仍有奴隶。我们都看到过或读到过他们,但却熟视无睹。

They have been kept hostage forcefully.

No freedom. No media coverage of their plight.

No leaders talk about. No voting right. No constitutional right.

Force to do whatever asked to do.

Some of them are forced to use drug, given injection to keep them healthy.

她们被强行扣为人质。

她们没有。也没有媒体报道他们的困境。

没有领导人注意到她们。她们没有投票权,没有宪法权利。

她们被迫按要求做事。

她们中有些人被迫吸食毒品,通过注射来保持健康。

They have no dignity, no human right.

They are nervous but no hope to leave the work place anyhow.

They are tired of doing overwork but still has to do if someone asks.

They even don’t have right to decide their wages. The owner decides it.

They are forced to live in stinky & very dirty room.

她们没有尊严,没有人 权。

她们很紧张,但无望摆脱这个工作场所。

她们厌倦了加班,但如果有人要求她们加班,她们不得不照做。

她们甚至没有权利决定自己的工资。一切听凭主人安排。

她们被迫住在又臭又脏的房间里。

They are forced to eat whatever their owner gives them to survive.

Constitution ends here, law ends here, Article 21 ends here.

Some of these slaves are abducted, some are sold, some are from poor family of Nepal/Bangladesh.

为了生存,她们被迫吃主人给的各种食物。

宪法止于此,法律止于此,第21条也止于此。

这些奴隶有些是被绑架的,有些是被贩卖的,有些则来自尼泊尔/孟加拉国的贫困家庭。

Yes, they are Prostitutes in different brothel of India. They are just a living coffin.

是的,她们是散落在印度各个妓院的妓女。她们就是活棺材。

 

 

 

N K PRASAD

They are working for money and the question of slave doesn’t rises. A domestic woman worker demanding Rs 1000/- PM for washing the dishes in cities . Are they slaves ? A sex worker demands Rs 500/- for one hour , where is slave ?

她们只是为钱工作,不存在是不是奴隶的问题。一名家政女工在城市洗碗每小时要价1000卢比。她们是奴隶吗?性工作者每小时要价500卢比,难道她们也是奴隶?

 

 

 

Somnath Mishra

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Are women treated better in Saudi Arabia than in India?

Saudi Arabia treats women so well that they couldn’t accommodate a single woman in their conference on “women in society”.

To the contrary Indian laws actually favor women(dowry cases, rape charges) which is again wrong and should end. Laws should be sex neutral in every country.

Few incidents in Saudi Arabia which corroborate the stories of plight of women there are:

沙特阿拉伯女性的待遇比印度女性好吗?

沙特阿拉伯对女性非常好,以至于他们召开“社会中的女性”会议时,都不让女性出席。

相反,印度法律实际上更偏袒女性(嫁妆案件,强奸指控),这其实是不对的,应该叫停。每个国家的法律都应该是公正不倚的。

沙特阿拉伯有些事证实了当地妇女的困境:

When a Girls School in Saudi Arabia caught fire in 2002, the Religious Police—the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice—beat the unveiled girls to prevent them from leaving the compound on blaze. Unveiled women must not venture out; as a result, fifteen girls were burned alive to charred bodies.

2002年,沙特阿拉伯的一所女子学校发生火灾,宗教警察——促进道德和防止不良行为委员会——殴打了未戴面纱的女孩,不让她们离开着火的院子。当地妇女如果不戴面纱是不能外出的;结果,15个女孩被活活烧死。

In 2007, a group of Saudi youths caught a woman with an unrelated man in a car and gang-raped her fourteen times. The Saudi Court convicted her of violating the segregation law and sentenced to six months’ jail and 200 lashes. The rapists were given light sentences of one to five years of imprisonment. When appealed, her punishment was doubled. Judge Dr. Ibrahim bin Salih al-Khudairi of the Riyadh Appeals Court later even regretted for not sentencing her to death.

2007年,一群沙特年轻人在一辆车里发现一名女子和一名与她没有血缘关系的男子,并轮奸了她14次。沙特法院判定她违反了种族隔离法,判处她6个月监禁和鞭刑200下。强奸犯仅仅被判处1至5年有期徒刑。上诉后,她的判罚增加了一倍。利雅得上诉法院法官易卜拉欣·本·萨利赫·胡达里事后甚至表示,因未判处她死刑而感到遗憾。

A woman, shot by her husband the first and second time, rejected a Social Worker’s advice to file a complaint as it required the presence of her obligatory male guardian, her husband; without him, her testimony would not be accepted, whilst the Religious Police might accuse her of “mixng” with the opposite sex, a criminal offense. The third time her husband shot her, she died of her wounds. Our women must be protected

一名妇女被丈夫枪击2次,她拒绝了一名社会工作者提出的起诉建议,因为这么做需要她的男性监护人——她的丈夫在场;如果她丈夫没有在场,她的证词不会被采纳,而宗教警察可能会指控她与异性“鬼混”,这可是一种刑事犯罪。她丈夫第三次向她开枪时,她因伤势过重而身亡。我们妇女必须得到保护。

A woman cannot go out alone, even if veiled. She must be escorted by a male relative. The Perpetual Minors report found that Saudi women are treated as “Perpetual Minors”: they are disallowed by law to study, work, travel, marry, testify in court, legalize a contract or undergo medical treatment without the assent of a close male relative—father, husband, grandfather, brother or son.

妇女即使戴着面纱也不能单独外出,必须由一名男性亲属护送。《终身未成年人报告》发现,沙特妇女被视为"终身未成年人":法律不允许她们在未得到亲近的男性亲属——父亲、丈夫、祖父、兄弟或儿子——同意的情况下学习、工作、旅行、结婚、出庭作证、订立合约或接受医疗。

While it is true that India has been a Patriarchal society for almost a millennium now but it is still a heaven compared to what Saudi Arabia is to women and things are changing for the good in India. Voting rights and de ocracy are the two best solutions for women empowerment as it enables women to vote and opt out a govt. discriminative of them. Saudi Arabia has neither!

相较而言,虽然印度近一千年来一直都是男权社会,但跟沙特阿拉伯女性的地位相比,印度已经是女性的天堂了,而且印度社会也正向好的方向改变。投票权是赋予妇女权力的两个最好的解决之道,因为妇女们能够参与投票并罢免歧视她们的政府。在沙特阿拉伯,这两种权利都是妇女们未能拥有的!

 

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