US 'highly unlikely' to beat China in landing astronauts on moon, says former NASA chief
美国前国家航空航天局局长称:美国 “极不可能” 在载人登月竞赛中击败中国
Former NASA administrator Jim Bridenstine talks about the difficulties in beating China to the moon at a Senate hearing on Sept. 3, 2025.
2025 年 9 月 3 日,美国前国家航空航天局局长吉姆・布里登斯廷在参议院听证会上,谈及美国在载人登月领域难以击败中国时,发表了上述观点。
以下是各国网友的评论:
robertng2398
You mean NASA forgot how to get back to the moon. ??? Seriously. Did you guys really get to the moon back in 1969?
你是说美国国家航空航天局居然忘了怎么重返月球?不是吧。你们1969年到底有没有真的登上过月球啊?
mikelixx
Different time and different machines used.
那时候和现在不一样,用的设备也不一样。
thansokari
Why would going to the moon be more difficult today than 60 years ago?
为什么现在去月球,反而比60年前更难了呢?
Quagma-b2i
Because the engineers 60 years ago were fantastic.
因为60年前的工程师水平是真的高。
Trex531
The goal shouldn’t be to beat the Chinese. The goal should be to get back to the Moon in an efficient, safe and smart manner for the sake of science and safety of the astronauts.
我们的目标不该是打败中国人,而应该是为了科学研究和宇航员的安全,用高效、安全、明智的方式重返月球。
dl2839
The goal should be to make a base on the moon, I don't care about "science."
目标应该是在月球建基地,我才不在乎什么“科学研究”
Tank4Life
He acts like we've never been to the Moon....hmmmm
他说得好像我们从没去过月球似的
TeofiloL-o2q8o
Which is the truth normal Americans find it extremely hard to swallow
这就是事实啊,普通美国人根本没法接受。
kplorlaaflakpui9648
How did USA get to the moon in the sixties without refueling strange world indeed.
美国六十年代没加油就登上月球了,这到底是怎么做到的?这世界也太奇怪了。
reeinafield5022
Because last time Americans went they didn't have to bring a big Starship that needed to be refueled to get there
上次美国人去的时候,不用带“星舰”那种需要加油才能到月球的大型飞船。
lfish57
Sounds like we never landed on the Moon 1969 because we didn't have refueling stations.
听着怎么像1969年我们根本没登上过月球啊,毕竟那时候连加油站都没有。
sirbillyclean
Totally different mission profiles.
任务方案完全不一样。
Spartan2035
Sounds like we didnt put focus on safety and re-usability in 1969. You are comparing apples and oranges. Read the mission goals of Apollo and Artemis.
听着好像1969年我们没把重点放在安全性和可重复使用上。你这是在把两种完全不同的东西放一起比。去看看阿波罗计划和阿尔忒弥斯计划的任务目标就知道了。
quisqueyanguy120
Saturn 5 was a more powerful rocket.
土星5号火箭的推力可比现在的大多了。
donkeychan491
It seems bizarre how they were able to pull this off in the 1960's yet it's seemingly so difficult to repeat the feat today, with computers trillions of times more powerful and every type of technology vastly more advanced. It certainly makes one wonder. The competence of NASA administration must have been much higher in the 1960's than now.
这事看着就离谱:六十年代能做到的事,现在电脑算力都强了万亿倍,各种技术也先进多了,反而好像很难再做到了。真让人想不通。看来六十年代美国国家航空航天局管理层的能力,肯定比现在强多了。
byhyew
Why does it have to be about beating someone? Very weird mentality.
为什么非得要“打败谁”啊?这种心态也太奇怪了。
DClark-xu8wy
Because we're American
因为我们是美国人啊。
kaio37k
Because winners are competitive, losers are not. Winners get sh!t done
因为赢家就爱竞争,输家才不。赢家能把事儿办成。
SteveB-i6r
America didn't go to the moon.
美国根本没去过月球。
AspieTrips
Yes we did. Prove we didn't. I can present you my evidence!
我们去过!有本事你证明我们没去过。我可有证据给你看!
StevenOBrien
If we're talking solely about just reaching the moon, the US already beat China 60 years ago. The goal of Artemis should be to enable easy and safe access to the moon, not just to repeat Apollo as quickly as possible.
要是只说“登上月球”这事儿,美国60年前就比中国先做到了。阿尔忒弥斯计划的目标应该是让人类能轻松、安全地进入月球,而不只是尽快重复阿波罗计划的成果。
samanthajones4877
From EV’s, battery tech, space tech, AI, and military china is kicking our butts. Perhaps their way of governance is better than ours?
从电动汽车、电池技术、航天技术、人工智能到军事领域,中国都在吊打我们。说不定他们的治理方式比我们的好呢?
pk2clever125
Infrastructure living life etc
还有基础设施、日常生活这些方面,中国也比我们强。
YSKWatch
leader that has been working for 40 years from lowest level to the top vs superstar that know nothing and depending on advisors that also know nothing.
人家的领导人是从基层干了40年才到最高位的,反观我们的“明星领导人”,什么都不懂,还全靠那些同样一窍不通的顾问。
HTtwentyten
These people are SHORT-SIGHTED. There's no point beating China (back) to the Moon. Give Starship all it needs to succeed, and the milestones it will set are the ones that actually are worthwhile.
这些人太目光短浅了。和中国比谁先重返月球根本没意义。给“星舰”提供成功所需的一切条件,它能实现的那些里程碑,才是真正有价值的。
Realone7-i8l
Exactly, you beat China back to the moon, then what? You’re basically just at an Apollo 2.0 and haven’t done anything new
就是啊,就算你比中国先重返月球了,然后呢?本质上也就是搞了个“阿波罗2.0”,什么新东西都没有。
Nubian_King_RNM
It's about real estate and next gen tech zero gravity gets you, like organ printing, new cancer medication, new gen computer chips, and Helium 3 for fusion reactors. It's basically the gateway to the 5th industrial revolution if you get it right.
这关乎月球“地盘”和零重力环境能带来的下一代技术,比如器官打印、新型抗癌药、新一代电脑芯片,还有用于核聚变反应堆的氦-3。要是能做好这些,月球基本上就是通往第五次工业革命的大门。
kaio37k
Starship has been given everything it needs to succeed, SpaceX and Elon just need to build a rocket that doesn't still explode on its 15th test flight. And I say this as a +20 year SpaceX fan. They're holding Artemis back severely; they're nowhere close to their milestones at this point in time.
“星舰”已经得到了成功所需的一切资源,太空探索技术公司(SpaceX)和埃隆马斯克只需要造出一枚——到第15次试飞时不会再爆炸的火箭就行。我可是关注太空探索技术公司20多年的老粉丝,这话我敢说。他们把阿尔忒弥斯计划拖得够呛,现在离既定的里程碑还差得远呢。
YSKWatch
I would like to see how many ULA engineers are born in US. the point is: if US not capable to produce their own engineer, sooner or later other country will surpass them.
我倒想看看联合发射联盟有多少工程师是美国本土出生的。关键是:要是美国连自己的工程师都培养不出来,迟早会被其他国家超过。
talnesalnes4345
unlikely to beat China
我们不太可能打败中国。
TheAugmentedMan1
think about it like this, even if Starship gets delayed and we are a year or two behind China in terms of going to the moon, it doesn't really matter because we are still wng anyway. When China gets to the moon, they will be going in a little capsule the size of a car. But when we get there, we will be in a skyscraper sized rocket. China has just started playing on begginner difficulty (which we already beat 50+ years ago), meanwhile we are playing on expert difficulty. There isn't a situation where we can lose here.
你这么想:就算“星舰”延期,我们比中国晚一两年登上月球,那也没关系,因为我们还是赢的。中国登上月球时,坐的会是汽车大小的小太空舱;而我们去的时候,坐的会是摩天大楼那么大的火箭。中国才刚开始玩“简单模式”(这模式我们50多年前就通关了),而我们玩的是“困难模式”。这种情况下,我们不可能输。
talnesalnes4345
Time will tell, strategic foothold is not joke.
时间会证明一切,战略立足点可不是闹着玩的。
TheAugmentedMan1
True, at the moment the United States has the superior rocket technology and will win the short term. But who knows what will happen long term, especially since NASA is a mess these days
没错,目前美国的火箭技术确实更先进,短期内会赢。但长期来看就不好说了,尤其是现在美国国家航空航天局一团糟。
someguy-g4r
We have already beaten them by 60 years.
我们60年前就已经比他们先登上月球了。
MaxHeadroom_
That's ancient history. In the world of today the fact is we can't beat them
那都是老黄历了。现在的现实是,我们赢不了他们。
goonhoongtatt1883
This hearing itself is part of the problem. While the US occupies itself with endless talking, China has already got to work.
这场听证会本身就是问题的一部分。美国还在没完没了地开会讨论,中国早就开始行动了。
snorriman
Why does the US have to treat the moon as a colony race game? Why can't mankind peacefully explore the moon together? This colonial mindset is sickening.
美国为什么非得把月球当成殖民地竞赛的筹码啊?人类就不能一起和平探索月球吗?这种殖民心态太恶心了。
Kaskiskuskeskos
Pssst USA number 1, that what USA always wanted to brags to the world
“美国第一”,这不就是美国总想跟全世界吹嘘的嘛。
mart9898
Now we have to refuel 12 times? How much more efficient were rockets in the 60's? Wtf. I used to believe we went to the moon but he convinced me that absolutely not
现在居然要加12次油?六十年代的火箭效率得有多高啊?搞什么啊。我以前还相信我们去过月球,现在被他说得,我彻底不信了。
djsUltra
They are more efficient now. The problem is that starship is overkill for the moon. Instead of just taking a rover it could take way more.
现在的火箭效率其实更高。问题是“星舰”去月球有点“大材小用”了。它不光能载月球车,还能装更多东西。
jpierce2l33t
Finally someone says it! I'm the biggest Starship fan there is, and even I can admit this is ridiculous! We need a simpler, Apollo-style architecture like the Chinese...at least for the first few trips!
终于有人说这话了!我是“星舰”的死忠粉,但我也得承认这事儿太离谱了!我们需要一个更简单的、像中国那样的阿波罗式方案,至少前几次任务可以这么搞!
djsUltra
Yeah we need something to stick it to the Chinese! Sure it won't advance spaceflight at all, but victory is that much sweeter the more money you pour into it.
对,我们就得搞点东西给中国人点颜色看看!虽然这对航天技术发展一点帮助都没有,但你投入的钱越多,赢的时候就越爽。
michaelshortland8863
You are correct sir, the Starship does have great potential, but it is a long way from achieving all the steps necessary to reach that potential, maybe in the long run, but definitely not by 2030.
先生,您说得对。“星舰”确实有很大潜力,但要实现这些潜力,还有很多必要步骤没完成。长远来看或许能成,但2030年前肯定不行。
Searching4Reason
Is China going back in time? We went to the moon 50 years ago.
中国是在穿越回过去吗?我们50年前就去过月球了啊。
meridiasbeacon7669
Going there before doesn’t mean you can still do it. You also used to make ships in the US and that’s no longer possible, used to refine rare earth metals in the US, no longer possible. If getting back to the moon was easy, this wouldn’t have been a race.
以前去过不代表现在还能去。美国以前还能造轮船呢,现在不行了;以前还能提炼稀土呢,现在也不行了。要是重返月球很容易,中美就不会有这场登月竞赛了。
randmorf
We already beat the Chinese to the moon back in 1969!
我们1969年就比中国人先登上月球了!
notgreg123
I already learned to tie my shoes once so why should I bother to do it ever again
我早就学会系鞋带了,难道还得每次都费劲系吗?
ecapsluv
the first woman on the moon will be chinese
第一个登上月球的女性会是中国人。
rudrakshkamath2071
The first woman will be American. Just like Neil Armstrong
第一个登上月球的女性会是美国人,就像尼尔·阿姆斯特朗第一个登月的人那样。
williamdrake2315
China will beat US to moon. Didn't we do that in the 60's? We need a moon base first which will help with what we will need for Mars.
中国会比美国先重返月球。我们六十年代不是已经登过月了吗?我们现在应该先建月球基地,这对以后去火星也有帮助。
oldeenglish64
Yea I dont understand. 60 years ago we landed and were having trouble now? With all of the technology we have?
是啊,我真搞不懂。60年前我们都能登上月球,现在反而有困难了?明明我们现在有这么多先进技术。
robertzukowski4972
Landing isn’t the hard part. We did that 55 years ago. We could do it easily today. Landing a large enough craft as a base to actually do something interesting from, that’s hard. And that’s what we’re going for now. China is just trying to do what we did in 1969, with 2025 technology.
登月本身不难,55年前我们就做到了,现在也能轻松做到。难的是把足够大的飞行器送上去当基地,好从上面开展有意义的活动——这才是我们现在要做的。中国现在只是在用2025年的技术,做我们1969年就做过的事。
byhyew
China already has a moon brick printer, and it's going to be tested on the moon in 2028.
中国已经有月球砖块打印机了,2028年就要在月球上测试。
walterfijn3586
People forget that their is a strategic military advantage of colonizing space
人们都忘了,在太空建立殖民地能带来战略军事优势。
samanthajones4877
We are behind because our mind in the US is always set on war war war. Our military budget this year is $1 trillion. We are like the Klingons from Star Trek.
我们落后是因为美国人满脑子都是打仗、打仗、打仗。今年的军事预算都到1万亿美元了。我们就像《星际迷航》里的克林贡人一样好战
jessegiles663
Am I the only one wondering why we worried about being first to the moon? Weren't we already they like 40 years ago? How can anyone beat us to the moon? If your gonna lie stick with it all the way! We went to the moon we already won
就我一个人想不通吗?为什么我们要纠结谁先登月球啊?我们40年前不就已经是第一个了吗?怎么还会有人能“比我们先登月球”?要撒谎就撒到底啊!我们去过月球,我们早就赢了。
EdwinaTS
The US would do better to review the goals of space exploration. It is ridiculous to set the goal to be there before China. The goal should be to benefit from space exploration. The NASA administrator was top notch in voicing the case.
美国最好重新审视太空探索的目标。把“比中国先到月球”设为目标太荒唐了,目标应该是从太空探索中获益。这位美国国家航空航天局前局长能说出这番话,水平确实很高。
scheldon2244
To paraphrase a certain Jared Isaacman… what the Chinese have is basically a LEM. The landers we have are planning to bring 20-ton payloads to the surface plus humans. If it’s quality over kilometers per second I’m all for that.
套用贾里德·艾萨克曼(美国企业家、太空旅行者)的话来说,中国人现在有的,本质上就是个“登月舱”。而我们计划的着陆器,要能把20吨载荷加上人员一起送到月球表面。要是比的是“质量”而非“速度”,我完全支持。
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