印度内政部长阿米特·沙阿：莫迪执政11年间，印度从绝望走向乐观

India’s gone from despair to optimism in 11 yrs: Home minister Amit Shah

印度内政部长阿米特·沙阿：莫迪执政11年间，印度从绝望走向乐观

The Modi govt has completed 11 years in office. What would you count as the five biggest achievements?

Let’s not get caught in numbers... certain things cannot be quantified. There was widespread pessimism in 2014, and people voted for Modi ji as PM, seeking an end to corruption, weak internal and external security, a severe image deficit abroad, social disharmony, and the poor state of the economy, which had landed us in the unenviable ‘Fragile Five’ club. The youth were particularly apprehensive. Now, in 2025, people are confident that India will become a developed country by 2047. The transformed mindset is a result of hard work over 11 years, marked by farsightedness and microplanning. I consider the renewal of hope and confidence about the country’s future a significant achievement. We are marching ahead with a sense of encouragement derived from the changed national psyche.

莫迪政府已执政11年。你认为他的五大成就有哪些？

我们不要纠结于数字……有些事情无法量化。2014年，印度弥漫着普遍的悲观情绪：人们投票支持莫迪担任总理，期待终结腐败、改善内外安全薄弱的局面、扭转在国际上的严重形象赤字、解决社会不和谐问题，以及摆脱糟糕的经济状况——当时印度还不幸跻身“脆弱五国”行列。年轻人尤其忧虑。而如今到了2025年，人们坚信印度将在2047年前成为发达国家。这种心态的转变，是11年来凭借远见卓识和微观规划辛勤奋斗的结果。我认为，民众对国家未来重燃希望与信心，是一项重大成就。我们正带着国民心态转变所带来的鼓舞向前迈进。

But some of the issues raised in 2014 — poverty, inflation and unemployment — have not gone away…

Let us be real. There are some issues which cannot be eliminated altogether. But can anyone say that the level of poverty and the number of poor are the same, or that their status has not changed? Over 26 crore people have been moved out of the BPL category, and more than 80 crore have benefited from welfare schemes, including housing, water, electricity, toilets and free LPG connections. Free health insurance cover of Rs 5 lakh, 5 kg of free ration and free LPG connections are available.

These things had not been provided for in 70 years; in these 11 years, we have come a long way.

It was a deliberate attempt to sabotage peace in Kashmir, to stop rising tourism and distract Kashmiri youth, who were employed, enjoying prosperity and were distanced from terrorism. The youth in Kashmir realises the evil plan. There were protests in every town in the Valley after the attack on tourists. The Valley had not shown such solidarity with the country before
Amit Shah

但2014年提出的一些问题——贫困、通胀和失业——并未消失……

我们要实事求是。有些问题确实无法彻底根除，但谁敢说贫困程度和贫困人口数量仍维持原样，或者他们的生活状况毫无改变？超过2.6亿人摆脱了贫困线以下的类别，80多亿人从住房、用水、电力、厕所和免费液化石油气连接等福利计划中受益。此外，还有50万卢比的免费医疗保险、5公斤免费口粮和免费液化石油气连接。

这些是过去70年未曾提供的福利，而在这11年里，我们取得了长足进步。

这是蓄意破坏克什米尔和平的企图，目的是阻止旅游业的崛起，并误导克什米尔年轻人——他们原本有工作、享受着繁荣，且远离恐怖主义。克什米尔的年轻人已意识到这一邪恶计划。游客遇袭后，山谷中的每个城镇都爆发了抗议活动。此前，该地区从未对国家展现出如此的团结。
阿米特·沙阿

Congress says your performance on the economic front is underwhelming.

Can India’s rise to becoming the fourth largest economy from the 10th, surpassing six front-running nations in just 11 years, be termed an underwhelming performance? Is doubling of GDP from $2 trillion to $4.2 trillion underperformance? Isn’t the unprecedented rise of capital expenditure from Rs 1.9 lakh crore to Rs 10.5 lakh crore a marker of the nation’s stupendous growth? Since they demitted office, even per capita income has risen from Rs 68,572 to Rs 133,488 and transformed lives for good. And all these are besides the remarkable 143% jump in FDI, which is reflective of international confidence in India’s economic policies. I can go on. Average inflation rate has been brought down from 10.1% to 4.6% and forex reserves have more than doubled to $654 billion. On the infrastructure front, the pace of highway construction has accelerated, Metro rail network has expanded four-fold to 1,000 km. In the banking sector, the turnaround is equally impressive. When we took office, non-performing assets were in double digits. Today, it is just 2.3%. As part of a historic push for financial inclusion, over 55 crore bank accounts have been opened in the last 11 years. Through Direct Benefit Transfer, Rs 44 lakh crore has been disbursed. Today, India accounts for nearly 50% of global digital transactions. Clearly, development under the Modi govt is not just a claim — it is a lived reality of 140 crore citizens.

国大党称你在经济领域的表现乏善可陈。

印度从第10大经济体跃升至第4大经济体，仅用11年就超越了6个国家，这能称为“乏善可陈”吗？GDP从2万亿美元翻倍至4.2万亿美元，这是表现不佳吗？资本支出从1.9万亿卢比空前增长至10.5万亿卢比，难道不是国家惊人发展的标志吗？自国大党卸任以来，人均收入从68,572卢比增至133,488卢比，彻底改变了人们的生活。除此之外，外国直接投资（FDI）激增143%，反映出国际社会对印度经济政策的信心。我还可以继续列举：平均通胀率从10.1%降至4.6%，外汇储备翻了一倍多，达到6540亿美元。在基础设施方面，高速公路建设速度加快，地铁网络扩展了四倍，达1000公里。银行业的转型同样令人瞩目：我们执政时，不良资产率高达两位数，如今仅为2.3%。作为金融普惠历史性推进的一部分，过去11年开设了55多亿个银行账户，通过直接福利转移支付发放了44万亿卢比。如今，印度占全球数字交易的近50%。显然，莫迪政府治下的发展并非空谈——它是14亿公民亲身经历的现实。

What about ‘Make in India’ as imports still remain high?

Considerable progress has been made towards Aatmanirbharta. We manufactured defence products worth Rs 1.3 lakh crore and exported Rs 21,000 crore worth of defence products. The target is to increase it to Rs 50,000 crore by 2029. We are now the second-largest exporter of mobile phones — from 26% mobiles being domestically produced, the share is now over 99%. Modi ji’s push to the toy sector has not only ensured that our next generation grows up playing with indigenously manufactured toys but has also reversed the export-import ratio of toys. In 2014, only 20% of toys were manufactured indigenously, 40% of manufacturing units had shut down, and 20% of them were on the verge of shutting down

关于“印度制造”，进口仍居高不下，情况如何？

在“自力更生”（Aatmanirbharta）方面已取得显著进展。我们制造了价值1.3万亿卢比的国防产品，并出口了2100亿卢比的国防产品，目标是到2029年将出口额增至5000亿卢比。如今，我们是全球第二大手机出口国——手机国产率从26%提升至99%以上。莫迪对玩具行业的推动不仅确保了下一代能玩到本土制造的玩具，还扭转了玩具的进出口比例：2014年，只有20%的玩具本土制造，40%的制造单位已关闭，20%濒临关闭。

Disaffection with UPA’s performance on the internal security front helped BJP in 2014. How do you view the situation now?

The biggest challenge was govt’s approach. Earlier, the focus was on containing the problem; our approach has been to eliminate it. Earlier, the concern was to manage a threat somehow while you were in office. It was not helpful. Take, for example, the issue of Naxalism. They had a plan to develop a red corridor from Tirupati (Andhra Pradesh) to Pashupatinath (Nepal), and the threat appeared realistic to many. In 11 years, the challenge has shrunk from 123 districts to just six. I am confident that by March 31, 2026, the entire country will be free of the Naxal menace. Similarly, in the North-east, violence has come down almost 70%, not only by using force. We have negotiated over 20 peace agreements with insurgent groups, and over 10,000 people have surrendered. By the time the report for the year is released, the level of violence is likely to decrease by 90%

2014年，民众对团结进步联盟（UPA）在国内安全方面的表现不满，这帮助了人民党（BJP）。你如何看待现在的局势？

最大的挑战在于政府的应对方式。过去，重点是遏制问题；而我们的方针是根除问题。以前，人们关心的是在任期间设法应对威胁，这无济于事。以纳萨尔主义问题为例：他们曾计划从（安得拉邦的）蒂鲁帕蒂到（尼泊尔的）帕舒帕蒂纳特建立一条“红色走廊”，这一威胁在许多人看来十分现实。11年间，受影响的地区从123个减少到仅6个。我有信心，到2026年3月31日，整个国家将彻底摆脱纳萨尔威胁。同样，在东北部地区，暴力事件减少了近70%——这不仅是通过武力实现的。我们与叛乱团体谈判达成了20多项和平协议，超过1万人投降。到年度报告发布时，暴力程度可能会再下降90%。

Was the Pahalgam attack an act of desperation by Pakistan?

帕哈尔加姆袭击是巴基斯坦的绝望之举吗？

这是蓄意破坏克什米尔和平的企图，目的是阻止当地旅游业的崛起，并误导克什米尔年轻人——他们原本有工作、享受着富足生活，且远离恐怖主义。克什米尔的年轻人已意识到这一邪恶计划。游客遇袭后，山谷中的每个城镇都爆发了抗议活动。此前，该地区从未展现出如此的团结。

There has been a radical shift in approach towards terrorism as the govt has said that any terrorist attack from now on will be considered an act of war.

Yes, PM Modi has said so repeatedly, there should not be any confusion about it

政府已表示，从现在起，任何恐怖袭击都将被视为战争行为，这标志着对恐怖主义的态度发生了根本性转变。

是的，莫迪总理已多次强调这一点，这不容置疑

Do you see the possibility of fresh attempts by Pakistan to disrupt normalcy?

We cannot control what they are planning but any misdeed of theirs will be responded to with full force. We will not hesitate in acting against whatever Pakistan chooses to do, without any delay.

你认为巴基斯坦有可能再次破坏正常秩序吗？

我们无法控制他们的计划，但他们的任何恶行都将遭到全力反击。无论巴基斯坦选择做什么，我们都会毫不犹豫地立即采取行动。

Congress is making an issue of the decision to pause Operation Sindoor.

In line with the PM’s public declaration to punish terrorists responsible for the Pahalgam attack, we launched limited strikes on terror launchpads and made it very clear that was a targeted strike. Pakistan treated our strike on terrorists as an attack on its territory, ending the distinction. It attacked our civilian locations. We gave a befitting reply on May 10 by damaging their airbases, while sparing civilian areas. Within no time, Pakistan sought a suspension of strikes

国大党正就暂停“辛杜尔行动”一事大做文章。

根据总理公开宣布的“惩罚帕哈尔加姆袭击事件恐怖分子”的声明，我们对恐怖主义发射平台发动了有限打击，并明确表示这是一次有针对性的袭击。巴基斯坦将我们对恐怖分子的打击视为对其领土的攻击，模糊了界限——它袭击了我们的平民区。作为回应，我们在5月10日进行了有力反击，摧毁了他们的空军基地，同时避开了平民区。不久后，巴基斯坦就寻求停火。

以下是印度时报读者的评论：

Sri Chandra
No one is happy in Modi regime during 11 years from 2014 except Adoni/Ambani

2014年以来的11年里，莫迪政府治下没人过得开心，除了阿达尼和安巴尼这些人。

Rinku Singh
Before 2014 no one was happy, now atleast 2 people are.

2014年前没人开心，现在至少有两个人开心了。

Jay Boro
how can a rioter help riots? that's some lunatic news

暴徒怎么会帮忙平息骚乱呢？这简直荒唐。

Swapnil Rao
Hindus completely Eliminated, Converted in Northeast including Manipur. This is going nonstop right from British times, encouraged later by Congress under Antonio Mano. Aim in near future separate NE from India into Christian Land along with Parts of Bangladesh including Saint Martin's Island which USA is desperately seeking for its Defence base

包括曼尼普尔邦在内的东北部地区，印度教徒要么被彻底清除，要么被迫改信其他宗教。从英国殖民时期开始，这种情况就一直没停过，后来国大党在安东尼奥·马诺的领导下还在推波助澜。他们的目标是在不久的将来把东北部从印度分裂出去，变成基督教领地，还要把孟加拉国的部分地区，包括美国一直想用作军事基地的圣马丁岛也拉进来。

Jay Boro
Hindus are even becoming more nuisance and worst than than islam in Modi s India

在莫迪治下的印度，印度教徒甚至比msl还麻烦，还糟糕。

I Am The Mirror
The real NUISANCE is YOU! You should be kicked out of Bharat! You are another anti-BJP fraud!

真正讨厌的是你！你应该被踢出印度！你是又一个反人民党的骗子！

I Am The Mirror
Amit Shah is absolutely right! Poverty, inflation and unemployment simply cannot be eliminated! There is no magic formula! We’ve huge population; therefore, there will always be unemployment. No govt. has control over inflation which is influenced by market forces! Poverty has declined since 2014 but it too cannot eliminated totally! But rudderless anti-BJP political goons like Congress will not agree with!

阿米特·沙阿说得完全正确！贫困、通胀和失业根本不可能消除！没有什么神奇的办法！我们人口太多了，所以失业问题肯定一直存在。通胀受市场力量影响，哪个政府也控制不了！2014年以来贫困问题有所缓解，但也不可能完全消除！不过像国大党这样没主见的反人民党政客是不会认同的！

Gidos
Development & progress is an enemy for fake gandhis coz they know exactly that as long as people are poor then it’s an easy job to buy their votes on crumbs. They’ve already looted trillions but still roaming as white collared social workers.

发展和进步是那些假甘地们的敌人，他们很清楚，只要人们还穷着，就很容易用一点点好处收买选票。他们已经掠夺了数万亿财富，却还在装成白领社会工作者到处晃悠。

I Am The Mirror
Even though I've complaints against BJP but the glaring fact is it is the strongest govt. we've had in the last 50 years. And our PM the most proactive PM ever! Most people don't even know the unending list of Achievements of BJP since 2014. They only know bits and pieces of it.

虽然我对人民党也有不满，但有一个事实很明显，现在的政府是过去50年来我们拥有的最强势的政府。我们的总理也是有史以来最积极主动的总理！很多人甚至都不知道人民党自2014年以来取得的数不清的成就，他们只知道一点点皮毛。

mangavani4927
Hon'ble PM Modi GOD gift to Bharath, never seen like PM in the History, he is incarnation of GOD, earlier PMs1)Lal Bahadur Sastry 2) P.V.Narsimha Rao 3) Atal Bihari Vajpai, 4) Narender Damodar Das Modi.

尊敬的莫迪总理是神赐予印度的礼物，历史上从未有过这样的总理，他是神的化身。

历任总理有：

1)拉尔·巴哈杜尔·沙斯特里

2)P.V.纳拉辛哈·拉奥

3)阿塔尔·比哈里·瓦杰帕伊

4)纳伦德拉·达莫达尔·达斯·莫迪。

navbharat1443
Modi ji is living prophet. Hail the prophet Modi

莫迪先生是活着的先知。莫迪万岁。

omkarpal5505
NDTV, boast up about PM as savior of humanity think about farmers and.

NDTV把总理吹成人类救世主，也想想农民啊。

rajasphadke3995
lot of anti government comments which is probably typical of this channel.
one thing prominently shows is the choice of padma awardees. The government has given to more derserving people than in other regimes. It has showcased the kind of varied work people in india do instead of the usual bhaats of the certain party like bollywood and certain reporters.

这里好多反政府评论，这里估计就是这样的画风。有件事很突出：帕德玛奖得主的评选。政府比往届政权给了更多实至名归的人。

abagwe9887
From 1998 to till today BJP has ruled more hence played vital role in improving India

从1998年到现在，人民党执政时间更长，在印度发展中起了关键作用。

sakshambhadoria9998
This government has backtracked on major reforms ranging from land reforms to farm laws. GST has failed to achieve its objectives and goals.

这届政府在土地改革到农业法等重大改革上退缩了。商品及服务税（GST）也没达成目标。

mg.f.9023
How many New Smart Cities built?

建了多少座新智慧城市？

praveenkamat6663
100 smart cities r identified
Not all r green field
Lifestyle improvement schemes r implemented in each cities
Metro, waste to energy etc r part of this initiative

确定了100座智慧城市，不全是从零开始建的，每座城市都实施了生活改善计划。地铁、垃圾转化能源等都属于这个计划。

mg.f.9023
PM’s hundreds of international trips. What was achieved globally. Any Solid international partnerships ?

总理几百次出国访问。取得了什么成果？有真正稳固的国际伙伴关系吗？

rmzr4824
rahul gandui's monthly vacations what have these acheived

拉胡尔·甘地每月都度假，又取得了什么成果？

a.kanagarajan7726
Nothing to change the normal people's life one or two persons lifes big changed like Adani and Ambani.

没什么改变普通人的生活，就一两个人的生活大变样了，比如阿达尼和安巴尼。