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【评论多】丹格人警告:给发预留种姓证书,否则15万人将转入基督教

丹格人(阿格拉及其附近地区的放牧人种姓,于1950年被认可为预留种姓)首领们 - 于星期天在阿格拉举行了长老会大聚会,並宣布,如果一个月之内不发给他们'预留种姓'证书,他们将集体转信仰,皈依基督教。这些牧人长辈首领说州政府一直都没为他们办什么亊。这个种姓群体几乎没有在教育、就业方面受到帮助,他们没有永久性住房、甚至连表明他们属于'预留种姓群体'的证书都没有。这个群体的首领说如果州政府继续忽视他们、並且在一个月之内再不授予他们证书,表明他们是'预留种姓',他们将决然皈依基督教。

译者:ken
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://www.santaihu.cn/
外文:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/agra/Give-SC-certificate-or- 1-5-lakh-will-turn-Christians-warn-Dhangars/articleshow/45680315.cms


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Give SC certificate or 1.5 lakh will turn Christians, warn Dhangars

丹格人警告:给发预留种姓证书,否则15万人将转入基督教

AGRA: Leaders of the Dhangars - a caste of herders from Agra and nearby regions who were recognized in 1950 as Scheduled Caste - held a mahapanchayat in Agra on Sunday and declared that if they were not given SC certificates in a month's time, they would convert en masse to Christianity.

阿格拉市:丹格人(阿格拉及其附近地区的放牧人种姓,于1950年被认可为预留种姓)首领们 - 于星期天在阿格拉举行了长老会大聚会,並宣布,如果一个月之内不发给他们'预留种姓'证书,他们将集体转信仰,皈依基督教。

Senior leaders of the herders said the state government had done little for them. The community had received little help by way of education and employment, they had no pucca houses, and did not so much as have a certificate to show that they were an SC group.

这些牧人长辈首领说州政府一直都没为他们办什么亊。这个种姓群体几乎没有在教育、就业方面受到帮助,他们没有永久性住房、甚至连表明他们属于'预留种姓群体'的证书都没有。

Leaders of the community said that if the state government continued to neglect them, and if no certificate was granted to them in a month's time, showing them as SC, they would embrace Christianity.

这个群体的首领说如果州政府继续忽视他们、並且在一个月之内再不授予他们证书,表明他们是'预留种姓',他们将决然皈依基督教。

Dhangars have a strong presence in the Braj region and across the state. Community leaders said about 1.5 lakh people could join the Christian fold if the caste certificates were not forthcoming.

丹格人在布拉吉地区以及全州人多势众。种姓团体首领说如果种姓证书再拿不到,15万人将加入基督教信徒行列。

More than 300 representatives of the herding community from across the state attended the mahapanchyat at Hariyali Vatika in Agra on Sunday.

星期天在阿格拉的婚宴大厅,超过300名来自全州的牧人团体代表参加了这次长老会大聚会。

Representatives from Agra, Fatehpur Sikri, Mathura, Gokul, Vrindawan, Etah, Firozabad, Aligarh and Mainpuri discussed the issue of their identity and status. Members expressed their resentment that the state government had been so cavalier about matters that related to their welfare.

来自阿格拉、法泰赫普尔西克里、马图拉、戈库尔、夫林达万、依塔、费罗扎巴德、阿里格尔以及迈恩普里的代表们讨论了他们的身份、地位问题。对于州政府历来如此漫不经心地对待与他们福利有关的重大问题,与会者们表达了愤恨。

JP Dhangar, state president of the Dhangar Mahasabha (UP), told TOI that his community was among the most neglected in the state. He said the government had been unmoved by HC orders, and no caste certificate had been issued to them in six decades.

丹格人议事会(北方邦)州主席JP 丹格告诉印度时报说,他的社团身处全州最受忽视的群体之中。他说政府对高院的指令无动于衷,60年了,种姓证书都没发给他们。

"The Dhangars were declared a Scheduled Caste in 1950. Since then, we have been waiting for our caste certificates, and have been unable to avail the benefits that SCs receive. The Allahabad high court and the National SC/ST Commission have asked the UP government to get our caste certificates made as soon as possible. The process is delayed despite that," Dhangar said.

“丹格人在1950年被宣布为'预留种姓'。打那以后,我们就在等待我们的种姓证书,而且一直拿不到'预留种姓'得到的福利。阿拉哈巴德高等法院和国家'预留种姓/部落专署'要求北方邦政府尽快完成我们的种姓证书制作。尽管如此,这一过程仍被拖延,” 丹格说。

JP Dhangar said the high court had asked the state government to issue caste certificates to the community on July 10, 2006. The SC/ST commission directed the government to issue caste certificates to the community twice, in 2008 and 2012, he said.

JP 丹格说,这个高等法院要求本州政府在2006年7月10日发放种姓证书。他还说,'预留种姓/部落专署'在2008和2012年两次指令州政府颁发种姓证书。

"We have taken out hundreds of cycle rallies and protests and demonstrations. No heed has been paid to our demands. The government now has one month, from December 28, 2014 to January 28, 2015. It we do not receive caste certificates, we will all convert to Christianity," JP Dhangar said.

“我们举行了数百次周期性的集会、抗议和示威。我们的要求没人理睬。从2014年12月28日至2015年1月28日,这个政府现在有一个月的时间。如果我们收不到种姓证书,我们将转皈基督教,” JP 丹格说。

Beena Dhangar, chairman of the Etmadpur Nagar Palika, who represented her area in the mahapanchyat, said those from her community contesting elections cannot take advantage of reserved seats.

长老会大聚会中,代表她所在地区的埃特马德普尔行政主席比纳.丹格说,在选举中,她的种姓团体成员不能享受预留席位。

"Tehsildars are not getting our caste certificates made. Not even a single Dhangar family in Braj Mandal has caste certificates for all its members. In some cases, only women were given the certificate. In some other cases, only men were given the certificate. Money is often demanded for making the SC certificate," Beena Dhangar said.

“税务长没有在制作我们的种姓证。在布拉吉.曼达尔,没有一个丹格人家庭的全体成员收到了种姓证书。有些情况是,只有妇女给了证书。另有一些情况,只有男子发到证书。常常以制作'预留种姓证'为由索要钱财,”比纳.丹格说。

以下是印度网民的评论:


译者:ken
来源:三泰虎论坛 http://www.santaihu.cn/thread-9206-1-1.html



Bhupendra Kumar (Antwerp, Belgium)

Let them convert because. I dont know how being christian will solve thiss issue. There are many converted christians who are still using their SC / ST certificates.

让他们转教,因为我不知道基督徒会如何解决这个问题。有许多转教的基督徒还在用他们的'预留种姓'证书。

 
Sitanshu Pandey (Banana Republic)

Great! All the SC/STs should convert to Christianity and reservation for SC/ST should be abolished! Problems solved for everyone!

棒极了!所有贱民都该转入基督教,而且给'预留种姓'的预留制应该被消除了!每个人的问题都解决了。

 
Rajeev S (Jhumri Talaiyya)

If they don't get SC certificates, they will accept bribe from Christian missionaries...Now handle that...especially Indian media.

如果他们拿不到'预留种姓'证,他们会接受基督教传教士的贿赂…现在去摆弄这事吧…尤其是印度媒体。

 
NSNS (New York)

Obviously someone has told them to convert and is luring them with money.

很明显,有人教他们转,而且还拿钱引诱他们。

 
ajay.bajaj (Australia)

Let them do they can even become trans genders who cares

随他们去,他们甚至可以转性,谁在乎

 
ajay.bajaj (Australia)

Tell them to chop their bamboo off and become Khusras

告诉他们,把他们的棒子割了,变成…

 
Yousuf (Bangalore, India)

Harsh Truth of being a Hindu low caste dalit in India

作为印度低种姓贱民的严酷事实

GreaterBharat (India) replies to Yousuf


The Harsh Truth of Conversion with Luring and Forcing...!.. time to close down all the Foreign Funded anti-nationals mafia...!


威逼利诱转信仰的严酷事实…!…是把外国资助的反国家黑帮都给封掉的时候了…!



 
vnksk (delhi)

Why did Mayawati in her 4 terms as UP CM or MSY in his 4 rules did not issue them certificate, if they r SC since 1950?

如果他们从1950年起就是预留种姓,为什么玛雅瓦提在她的4届任内、MSY在他4次掌权期内不发给他们证书?

Butel BolriyalaButel BolriyalaButel BolriyalaButel Bolriyala (Great India) replies to vnksk


One answer - Clerks want money. You can't imagine how helpless CMs/ Ministers, Secreteries are when Clerks smell some money to be made, if you haven't gone through it. I have.


一个答案 - 办事人员要钱。当办事人员嗅出可以弄些钱时,你无法想像首席部长/部长、秘书们是多么无法自制,要是你没经历过,我可经历过。



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