三泰虎

继歼10CE后,巴基斯坦列装中国的直-10ME直升机,强化战场响应能力

Pakistan Inducts Z‑10ME Helicopters to Reinforce Battlefield Response

巴基斯坦列装直-10ME直升机,强化战场响应能力

Pakistan has formally inducted the advanced Chinese Z‑10ME attack helicopter into its Army Aviation Corps, unveiled at a ceremony on August 2 in Multan presided over by COAS Field Marshal Asim Munir

巴基斯坦已正式将先进的中国直-10ME攻击直升机纳入陆军航空兵序列。8月2日,在穆尔坦举行的列装仪式上,该直升机首次公开亮相,巴基斯坦陆军参谋长阿西姆·穆尼尔元帅主持了仪式。

以下是各国网友的评论:

Sole-proprietor
It means IAF is grounded for a few days again

意思是印度空军又要停飞几天了。

 

alikhan-r6p5l
THIS IS VERY GOOD NEWS CHINA ALL WEATHER FRIEND.

太好了,中国是我们的全天候朋友。

 

kashifharoon7752
Proud to be having such strong army and specially strong COAS

为有这么强大的军队,尤其是这么强大的陆军参谋长而自豪。

 

Farhan96
Pakistan zindabad

巴基斯坦万岁。

 

jcgaming908
Pakistan is capable of making it own jets and helicopters so why buy

巴基斯坦有能力自己造飞机和直升机,为什么 还要买?

 

alman.j420
It's not capable bro

兄弟,巴基斯坦没这能力。

 

Jshah1003
India is able to make all its weapons, so why they buy.

印度有能力自己造武器,那他们为什么还要买?

 

allseeeye
Ind is "capable" too!

印度也很“有能力”哦!

 

aarifboy
The way PAF n Navy r going, we wont b able to get freedom for Kash'mir until judgement day, let alone Pales'tine. Niazi shud b in Govt with people like Praviin Sawhney openly criticizing performance of our Gan-du(Patwari) establishment, huh

照巴基斯坦空军和海军这架势,我们到世界末日都解放不了克什米尔,更别说巴勒斯坦了。尼亚齐就该执政,还有像普拉温·索哈尼这样的人,公开批评我们这帮废物机构的表现,是吧?

 

aarifboy
In Mo'di era Pak'istan has delivered more JF17s to Ni'geria, Azer'baijan n Myan'mar that HAL has delivered Tejas to IAF, hehe

莫迪执政期间,巴基斯坦向尼日利亚、阿塞拜疆和缅甸交付的JF17战机,比印度斯坦航空向印度空军交付的光辉战机还多,呵呵。

 

pakistandriving
this helicopter gunship is really impressive and advanced

这武装直升机真的很厉害,很先进。

 

DonSpill
next they gonna sell the tech to Turkey

接下来他们会把技术卖给土耳其。

 

MuhammadAmirSohail-x3j
......it seems, you have to pay the bills

看来,账还是要付的。

 

KingKhan-ez3gg
it is our army that carries and owns our entire country

是我们的军队支撑并守护着整个国家。

 

ParvaLadani__
Carries don't know but definitely owns it

支不支撑不好说,但肯定是掌控着。

 

amibangladeshhh
Why don’t you use Armoured Vehicle as you’ve been attacked so many times by BLA and TTP?

你们被俾路支解放军和塔利班多次袭击,为什么不用装甲车?

 

md.jamshedhossain2455
Pakistan should good relations with Bangladesh army.

巴基斯坦应该和孟加拉国军队搞好关系。

 

Rajabfamily78694
Pakistan Army love you to

巴基斯坦军队,我们也爱你。

 

UMSLtd
Dont get too excited. India has already bought 5,000 plus Igla-S shoulder launched missiles to take these helicopters out.

别太兴奋。印度已经买了5000多枚“针-S”肩扛式导弹,专门用来打这些直升机。

 

kawan5851
The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) and Army Aviation should not operate independently in parallel. It would be more efficient for the Air Force to take full responsibility for Army aviation, enabling centralized command, control, and technical support for all aerial assets. Maintaining two separate air arms one for ground forces and one for air operations results in unnecessary duplication of resources. Consolidating all capabilities under a single air force would enhance operational efficiency and optimize resource utilization.

巴基斯坦空军和陆军航空兵不该各自独立运作。让空军全面负责陆军航空兵会更高效,这样所有空中资产能实现集中指挥、控制和技术支持。陆空各搞一套空中力量,会导致资源不必要的重复浪费。把所有能力整合到空军旗下,能提高作战效率,优化资源利用。

ferozkhan8463
I can't even think of a single armed force on the planet which does what you've suggested. Even the PLA which the Z-10 was originally created for has these helicopters under the control and operation of the Army Aviation branch not the PLAAF. I think the reason for this setup is because these attack helicopters are almost exclusively supporting ground forces and work in conjunction with them. These helicopters will be particularly helpful in combat operations against the TTP and BLA.

我想不出世界上有哪支军队会按你说的做。就连直-10最初的装备对象中国人民解放军,这些直升机也是归陆军航空兵管,不是空军。我觉得这么安排是因为武装直升机主要就是支援地面部队,和地面部队协同作战。这些直升机在打击塔利班和俾路支解放军的行动中会特别有用。

 

aadullahkhan9062
these aren't for battle against india but us civilians; Pakistanis.

这些不是用来对付印度的,是用来对付我们平民的,对付巴基斯坦人的。

 

neseXx-uf2bb
This isn't the answer to the Apache. This is more equivalent to the Super Cobra, A-129 Atak or EuroCopter. The Chinese answer to the Apache is the Z-21.

这不是针对阿帕奇的机型。它更接近超级眼镜蛇、A-129“猫鼬”或欧洲直升机。中国针对阿帕奇的机型是直-21。

 

subjectc7505
The Z-10 isn't an answer to the Apache. It's an answer to a lack of significant firepower after the Z-19 was introduced. The Z-21 is more of a competition to the Apache.

直-10不是为了对标阿帕奇。它是为了弥补直-19列装后火力不足的问题。直-21才更像是和阿帕奇竞争的机型。

 

ojimbo3681
Z-10 is already old. They're about to debut the Z-21 heavy attack helicopter.

直-10已经过时了。他们即将推出直-21重型武装直升机。

 

hosermcmoose
The AH-64 Apache dates from the 1980's and really was mostly 1970's technology from Vietnam. If China can't better that in the 2020's we should be surprised more than anything else.

AH-64阿帕奇始于80年代,核心技术其实是70年代越南战争时期的。如果中国在2020年代还超不过这个水平,那才真该让人惊讶。

 

geodkyt
The reason the Apache doesn't normally carry air to air missiles is because the United States doesn't have to - anywhere the US Army is operating AH-64, the USAF is around with F-15s. Its the same reason the US Army is light on medium range self propelled air defense systems - we have mobile short range point defences, and semi-fixed long range area systems like Patriot and THAAD. The roles other nations feel necessary to fill with SP ADA autocannons and medium range SP SAM systems? That is handled for US ground forces by the Air Force simply denying the enemy the opportunity to fly over US ground forces.

阿帕奇通常不带空空导弹,因为美国没必要带——美军陆军在哪儿用AH-64,美国空军的F-15就会在附近掩护。同理,美军陆军中程自行防空系统少,因为我们有机动近程点防御系统,还有“爱国者”“萨德”这类半固定远程区域防御系统。其他国家觉得需要用自行高炮和中程防空导弹来填补的空缺?美军陆军靠空军就能解决,直接不让敌人飞机飞到美军地面部队上空。

 

earthwizz
The Apache may have a little more combat experience but the US hasn't faced a peer military since WWII. Even so, they haven't always won, in fact they've frequently lost.

阿帕奇可能实战经验多一点,但美国自二战后就没和同等级的军队交过手。即便如此,他们也不是总能赢,其实经常输。

 

kalewintermute28
Attack Helicopters have been worse than useless in Ukraine... their effective counters, drones and manpads are ridiculously cheap in comparison.

在乌克兰,武装直升机不光没用,甚至更糟。它们的有效克星——无人机和肩扛导弹,相比之下便宜得离谱。

 

de.ruyter
I think it looks more like a eurocopter tiger with some ka 50 aspects

我觉得它看起来更像欧洲“虎”式直升机,带点卡-50的影子。

 

arslan_TM
Pakistan already got.

巴基斯坦已经拿到了。

 

ensiveJestr
The answer to a helicopter that's been in service for 39 years. We have something better.

这是对一款服役39年的直升机的回应。我们有更好的东西。

 

oodtimes87
Yes , we have brand new air care. It was only designed forty years ago

是啊,我们有全新的空中装备。也就四十年前设计的而已。

 

sujithsudhakaran745
The india army learned the hard way that the apache isn't that great in the high altitude regions of the himalayas because one of their apache lost power and almost crashed in ladak during the standoff. They are looking to aquire their indigenous light attack helicopter prachand for high altitude operations

印度陆军吃了苦头才明白,阿帕奇在喜马拉雅高海拔地区不太行——对峙期间,他们一架阿帕奇在拉达克动力失灵,差点坠毁。他们正打算采购国产的“普拉昌德”轻型武装直升机用于高海拔行动。

 

 

radian
I served in the first unit in the U.S. army to field the AH64 helicopter. The 6th Calvary Regiment. The development of the AH64 helicopter was started in the late 1960’s. The electronic suite for the AH64 has been upgraded on a regular basis, and I find it hard to believe that the Chinese have a better product, or the training and experience using the aircraft.

我在美国陆军首支列装AH64直升机的部队服过役,就是第6骑兵团。AH64的研发始于60年代末。它的电子系统一直在定期升级,我很难相信中国有更先进的产品,或者在操作这款机型的训练和经验上更有优势。

 

DulayLomo
It's admirable that they learnt from their past mistakes, and made a turn to join the world trading system. Can't say that for many countries in the West which stagnates under a calcified system that they are clueless to reform

他们能从过去的错误中学习,转而融入世界贸易体系,这很值得敬佩。西方很多国家就做不到,他们困在僵化的体系里停滞不前,还不知道怎么改革。

 

Feral55
How close did they come to matching an Apache......LOL!!! China's hasn't had an original idea since gunpowder

他们离赶上阿帕奇还差得远呢,哈哈!中国自从火药之后就没发明过东西。

 

dalok
Don't know why ppl keep saying Chinese hardware is trying to "catch up" to Western hardware, It's like insisting Chinese students are "trying to catch up" with their Western counterparts in exams. What's next? Chinese electric cars are "trying to catch up" to US ones?

不懂为什么总有人说中国装备在“追赶”西方装备,这就像说中国学生在考试中“追赶”西方学生一样。接下来是不是要说,中国电动车在“追赶”美国电动车?

 

yabutmaybenot.6433
I for one am completely shocked that anyone could even imply that the Chinese steal weapons technology from other countries. They are just borrowing, and make theirs look the same to show how much they appreciate the help.

有人暗示中国偷武器技术,我对此深表震惊。他们只是“借鉴”,而且做得外观一样,是为了表达感激。

 

jacklav1
I don’t mean to piss on their cornflakes but the Apache entered service in 1986 so matching its stats is not an incredible achievement. Also, they have just made a weapons platform that is surely becoming the most redundant of all. Expensive, vulnerable with a limited firepower. If you want to shoot tanks over the next hill then why would you pay $52m for a machine that can carry 16 warheads putting two extremely valuable airmen at risk when, for the same money you could supply a company of drone operators with state-of-the art drones for a year.

我不是想泼冷水,阿帕奇1986年就服役了,能赶上它的参数不算什么了不起的成就。而且他们造出的这个武器平台,肯定会变成最多余的装备。又贵、又脆弱、火力还有限。要是想打山那边的坦克,为什么要花5200万美元买一架只能带16枚弹头、还得让两名宝贵飞行员冒风险的机器?同样的钱,能给一个连的无人机操作员配备最先进的无人机,用一整年。

此文由 三泰虎 编辑,未经允许不得转载!:首页 > 大国 » 继歼10CE后,巴基斯坦列装中国的直-10ME直升机,强化战场响应能力

()
分享到: