The kind of politeness, courtesy and civic sense that exsts among westerners makes Hindus look like animals living in a garbage dump. I am not kidding. Just check out some pics of Varanasi in Smack.
You talk whatever nonsense you want... and am sure you have not seen the world. And you better dont comment anything about varanasi. It is our Hindu's holy place and if it is dirty it is our issue. You keep away from this. No one invited your opinion on varanasi or invited you there. And about politeness in westerners... I would like to know where you live ?
My comment was about culture. When the word "culture" comes up, my mind automatically imagines a couple of Europeans sitting up and politely having dinner, or a bunch of Japanese practicing Aikido. When I think of Indians, what comes up in my mind are a bunch of randomly dressed men talking in rude language, fighting and spitting paan, women walking down in sarees with 'purdah' or rich Hindus killing their children for 'honor'. Which do you think is the superior culture? What the Hindus call "culture" - like eating with hands, walking barefoot in the house, wearing sarees, arranging fat intra-caste marriages etc are rudimentary things and culture is supposed to be much more deeper. Culture in India's context would be caste thinking, honor killing, vegetarianism (fanatically at that, while hating the meat eaters) etc. Indians are simply less civilized.
Now consider the fact that maybe they way you look at culture is just as flawed as the cultures you look at. Do you know that many Japanese stations have vending machines that dispense used ladies underwear? .There wasa time when they actually sold used panties from Minors in the market, till it was banned in 2004. German tourists in Thailand go there primarily to find underaged girls to have sex with. woman in the middle east get a death sentence for killing a man who was trying to rape her. A couple in the US get a sentence because they were beating and torturing their 3 year old son. In india a man holding a mans hand is perfectly acceptable, a practice that would not happen in the west unless they were lovers, Some would view this as backward. In the west many people and school still preach creationism, many would consider this backward and frankly retarded. White supremists kill gay people. This my friend is a human condition,not the perview of any religion. Any religion or culture,is a construct of the human mind and as such is flawed. Eating with ones hand, walking barefeet, wearing sarees is not rudimentry, its just different. A fact your fickle, unlearned mind doesn't seem to grasp. Do you know those poilte europeans are among some of the loneliest people in the world? Yes we can be loud, dirty and largely vegetarian, we are also some of the happiest people in the world according to a Forbes survey. I grant that we have a ways yet to go, But please don't mistaken your nesience for our inferiority. Besides I would think that your veneration of the culturally superior societies would have made you a bit more tolerant, broad minded, incisive and generally more erudite then us barbarians. It thus astonishes me that you would indulge in the same bigotry that you accuse us off. Perhaps you need to have more polite dinners or do more Aikido before you achieve this culturally enlighten state. In the mean time I'm going to go wear random clothes, spit pan and hate some meateaters, while arranging a fat (What does that even mean???) inter caste marriage all the while sitting on top of my camel.
You are actually nitpicking wrong facets from those societies to prove that they are just "the same as you". Not true. Cultural superiority is very apparent in their politeness, cleanliness, equality and emphasis on individual rights. Yes, I've seen 14 year old high school kids kissing each other in crowded metros in Japan, but none of the adults were staring at them, cursing them or "discipling them". This is perceived as "bad culture" usually by villagers of India who have different notions about virginity, "love marriages", "caste purity" etc. But this is indeed a superior culture. Because, ultimately more rapes happen in your country where women are strictly morally policed by the general public. I used to ride on Mumbai local in my younger days. Millions travel every day. Very few people hanging by the local train were "cultured" according to me. In India, cultured people are like these parents who wanted to save their "honor" - because wanted to be perceived as very cultural. In Hinduism, you can do all the sins you want, as long as you take a dip in the ganges at least once a year. This is your culture.
You accuse me of nitpicking and yet you do the same, writing off 1.2 billion people based on the perceived actions of the "villagers". In christianity if you confess you are absolved of all sins. its just as idiotic. I know my culture, we have along ways to go.I agree with a lot of what you have said. But to deal in absolutes in not scholastic. Especially because you have a dogmatic idea of culture, and use your own lopsided yardstick on everyone. You are guilty of indulging in reductio ad absurdum, so let me do the same, because it seems your pedantic mind is non responsive to anything else. You talk about equality. There is no equality in this world, dont delude yourself, black people are denied jobs in the west, Racism is on the rise in the UK, Students from the subcontinent are routinely killed in Australia. Mexcans are shunned in the US, Turks and Asians in Europe. Dont delude your self with fallacious world view. Politeness is a thin veil, my friend, dont mistaken it for kindness. Human beings are greedy, scared, jealous, proud; most will walk over others to get to what they want. Also just for your information the highest rate of rape in the world is in Sweden (114 per 10000 people) The rate of rape in India (2 per 10000 people) is 1/30 of the rate in the US, or 1/14 of that in the UK. You talk about emphasis on individual rights, kids sue their parents, put them in nursing homes. There is little sense of community, no body smiles at a passing stranger. People dont want to talk to you because you are brown, I have personally encountered this. The world doesn't smell like roses and look like a million bucks I thought I would have a conversation with you, but it seems I am talking to the very essence of intolerance. You my friend are a bigot and hypocrite. You embody what is wrong with this world, you stereotype, you generalize and then you inject a fallacious feel a sense of sanctimony into your otherwise meaningless life by spewing spurious nonsense. I regret spending so much time writing this comment, as talking to the red stapler on my table would be better, because atleast its inanimate silence is more meaningful then your blather. Draw comfort in the fact that you will have the last word in this discussion my witless friend, as I will go back to living my dirty paan stained life drawing comfort from the fact that we are no in the same geographical location, and indulge your screed no more.
Both villagers and city dwellers are uncultured in India. Most of the villagers practice feudalism and caste system, and have no notion of any post-renaissance ideas like gender-equality, individual rights, etc and on top of that they are anti-romantic (I think presence of Romance is essential for any type of culture). Coming to the Metro, as I encountered every single day while traveling in the metro along with a few thousand others - most were like the definition of "uncultured": rude, uncouth, unrefined, unclean and argumentative. You have to admit, the only Indians are devoid of any "culture".
Shoba Nair•1049• • Goddy •Perth, Western Australia•
Totally agree with you!
完全赞成！
Ganga Vara Prasad•586• •Phagwara•
Such things should not be encouraged.
这种事情不应鼓励。
Tarun Maganti•686• • Ganga Vara Prasad•Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh•
Well, to not encourage those things one should act at the root of the problem-"The Caste System"
嗯，不鼓励这种事情，你就该对问题的根子- “种姓制度” 采取行动。
i am communal•7661• • Tarun Maganti•Hinduland•
caste system or not indian inferior mentality will behave the same. honour killings is also a common problem in pakistan as well where there is no such system. just two months back a girl was killed in gruesome manner by her parents and relative in pakistan and then the mullhas were barking from mosques that honour killing is not allowed in islam. inferior mentality is same everywhere no matter the religion or cult they follow.
Tarun Maganti•686• • i am communal•Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh•
You made a good point there. People with inferior mentality find a reason to do something. Caste System is one of them. You can't just go to a person and say that you are wrong. Beating around the bush is a better option here rather than direct approach. Change isn't really easy to accept but realizing that what we did is wrong is much more difficult. Hence, curbing caste system can indirectly convinces them to accept the change conveniently.
And pointing at a community doesn't help. Indian or Pakistani or any other country, some kind of racism/casteism or at least sexsm definitely exsts.
I just pointed out a major thing which is dividing the society.
You cant remove the caste system. Even if you remove, it will be replaced by something else - may be religion or color etc. But, shocking thing here is not the caste, its people killing their own children. How can someone do it?
Barbaric!! Severe punishment should be given to culprits if found guilty...I have a question to our beloved organisations like A.B.V.P., V.H.P, Bajrang dal. R.S.S etc.; why there is not a single word from them to condemn such a barbaric act. no protest , no rallies, nothing why?
Moash... You are like one of those guys who blame Mr.Modi even if your kid sneezes. Grow up brother.
Moash…有人连自己孩子打喷嚏都要怪穆迪先生，你就象那些人中的一员。长大吧，兄弟。
Moash•18538• • Gopinath P•Hyd•
Mr. Gopinath, why don't these fellows who will accuse others of all ills come out and protest against such a barbaric act?
Gopinath 先生，为什么这些会指责别人什么坏事都干的傢伙不站出来抗议这种野蛮行为？
B6S3 •6144• • Moash •India•
Again bringing an act to these lines? When will you all change from the rabid mentality? Of course being brain wasahed by Owaisi, you aren't too likely to change.
First of all try to change the mentality of your folks, then preach others. Did you ever had a look at the comment section of this news portal? or you are also one of them?