Chinese students in America used to stay in America after graduation.

Now, most of them go back to China.

以往赴美留学的中国学生毕业后大多留在美国发展。

如今，其中大部分人都会选择回国。

以下是各国网友的评论：

Joe
They might go to countries for study like the UK, Australia, Singapore rather than The USA, let’s be realistic, every relationship you know has their ups and downs

现在很多人会选择英国、澳大利亚、新加坡留学，不再首选美国。说实话，国与国之间的关系本来就有高峰也有低谷。

 

Joseph Lashley
I don’t know if all those Youtubers who go to China or propagandist but if what I say on the TV is what it’s like in real life I’ll go to China. We need more discipline in our bureaucrats

我不知道那些去中国的油管博主算不算宣传人员，但如果电视里描述的中国就是真实模样，我愿意去中国看一看。我们这边公职人员也该加强管束了。

 

jjj187
Its real. Went to china twice and loved it. At the same time, its the equivalent of millionaires travelling in a bubble. The majority of china is still incredibly poor with a gdp per capita less than mexco

情况确实如此。我去过两次中国，很喜欢那里。但我感觉就像富豪在封闭的圈层里观光，中国大部分地区依旧非常落后，人均GDP还比不上墨西哥。

 

0d114514
Mostly real, but the development and life quality in China vary insanely huge across regions, the good side and the bad side both exst.

大体上说得没错，不过中国各地发展水平、生活质量差距极大，优势和短板客观并存。

 

blake
why would they leave the US to go to China? Chinese citizens earn the HIGHEST salary compared to any other country of origin. i can't see them living a better life in China, but maybe it's all about family?

为什么要离开美国回中国呢？华裔在美国所有外来族群里收入是最高的。我实在看不出回国能过得更好，或许只是为了家人吧？

 

Rudy
Life is actually better for many Chinese in tier 1 city, especially international students. If you can go to US, you're most likely upper middle class in China, and life is good for the moneyed class in tier 1 Chinese city.

很多中国人在国内一线城市的生活质量确实更高，尤其是留过学的群体。能负担赴美留学的，在中国基本都属于中上层家庭，富裕人群在一线大城市日子过得很舒坦。

 

blake
eye opening, thank you!

涨见识了，谢谢分享！

 

Accounthaver181
-They like the culture better
-They won't face racism
-They have family back there
-They prefer the type of government and economic system
-They see more opportunity in the future since China is on the rise and the US is in decline
-The US has been actively pushing them away

1. 更认同本土文化
2. 不用遭受种族歧视
3. 家人都在国内
4. 更认可中国的治理模式与经济体制
5. 中国持续崛起、美国逐步衰退，回国能看到更多发展机遇
6. 美国各项政策也在变相倒逼他们离开

 

Michael Tastad
Why would a country educate its geopolitical rival? Asking for a friend.

一个国家为什么要费力培养自己的地缘政治竞争对手？帮朋友问一句。

 

MaxLongTop
From what my friends tell me chinese uni is much harder to get into. They usually just pay retail for an american education and skip the brutal tests

听身边朋友说，国内高考升学难度极大。很多中国学生直接花钱申请美国大学，避开了国内残酷的升学考试。

 

Fred
The idea that China is a US rival is dumb. Made up by the same people sinking the country in debt to enrich themselves.

把中国视作美国竞争对手的说法很荒谬。这都是那群透支国家债务、中饱私囊的人编造出来的借口。

 

Michael Tastad
wow - so there is no geopolitical struggle for resources, trade chokepoints, and military realities. none of that is real!?!??! phew thank god

好家伙，照这么说，资源争夺、贸易要道博弈、军事层面的地缘较量全都不存在咯？谢天谢地了。

 

secularwakanada
Free trade
Cooperation
Opening minds to western values

自由贸易、国际合作、接纳西方价值观。

 

Michael Tastad
i'm legit extremely skeptical any of these three things are happening

说实话，我严重怀疑这三点根本没有真正落地。

 

Tom
Because you can influence them in your thinking, especially if they return and become elites back in their home country. It’s a sign of a country’s strength to be educating future elites of other countries.

可以对他们进行思想层面的影响，一旦他们回国成为行业精英，影响力就能辐射开来。能接纳并培养别国未来的顶尖人才，本身也是国力强大的体现。

 

Nah
if you've been to university in the USA (i went to at least a top 50 school, idk), you'd know that students don't really receive an education there

只要在美国读过大学（我读的学校稳居全美前50）就会明白，很多学生在那边根本没学到什么实打实的知识。

 

21HEREWEGO
With the tuition international students are paying, it’s more like they are subsidizing your domestic students to go to college

国际生缴纳高额全额学费，本质上就是在补贴本土学生的大学开销。

 

Avis Mechcanicus
Am I miss reading this or does it show that since around 2013/2014 that over 75% of student returned?

我是不是看错数据了？图表是不是显示2013到2014年之后，超过75%的中国留学生选择回国？

 

Songanq
Except China doesn't have freedom and it's hard to find a job, life is very convenient in China's 15-Minute cities. And Chinese people generally don't like small talk.

抛开所谓自由不足、就业压力大这些点不谈，中国15分钟生活圈确实非常便利。而且中国人大多不喜欢漫无目的的闲聊。

 

jon3k
This is concentrated in undergraduate degrees. What we care about is graduate degrees and PhD specifically. Which is actually rising.

高比例归国主要集中在本科留学生群体。我们更关注硕士和博士阶段，这部分留在美国的人数其实还在上涨。

 

dataer
Better living conditions, nationalist story to build etc. America is lost and not the dream it used to be

国内生活条件更好、家国情怀加持等等。美国早已风光不再，不再是曾经的追梦圣地。

 

Artificial Opticality
Then why are they coming here in the first place?

那当初为什么还要来美国留学呢？

 

Un P
Same will be true for India probably in 2 decades.

再过二十年，印度大概率也会出现大量留学生学成归国的现象。

 

lovefield
I never know anyone from India choose to go back to their country after graduation

我认识的印度留学生，毕业后没有一个愿意回国的。

 

Teminck
is prospect of finding a high pay, tech job in China much better than in the US? And that its youth unemployment rate, especially graduates, is much much lower than the US? And the stories I hear about graduates in China couldn't find jobs and have to do food delivery, including apparently an advertisment/promotion of a young graduate girl working on food delivery by a local state government, is not true?

想问下，在中国找高薪技术岗位真的比美国更容易吗？青年失业率，尤其是应届生失业率远低于美国吗？还有网传很多大学生找不到工作去送外卖，甚至地方官方还宣传女毕业生跑外卖，这些传闻都是假的吗？

 

Jeremiah
If only we could get our blacks to do the same

真希望我们这边的黑人族群也能有这样的奋斗回流意识。

 

Engineered
American is largely not benefiting from the exchange of knowledge with the Chinese. It seems to almost completely be a one way exchange. The Chinese are brilliant lithograph machines

美国在中美知识交流中基本得不到实际收益，几乎完全是单向输出。中国人学习吸收知识的能力太强了。

 

Llamasandstocks
So are indians. Western nations give an improvement in living standards but most young people don’t see opportunities or future in stagnanting and aging economies. Asia will be the new west of this century.

印度人学习能力也很强。西方国家生活水平虽高，但经济停滞、人口老龄化，年轻人看不到发展前景。本世纪亚洲会成为新的发展核心区域。

 

Grove
Honestly, almost every Indian I’ve met in the U.S. has no desire to move back to India. China is already ahead of the U.S. in a lot of areas when it comes to infrastructure, but India is still nowhere near the level of the U.S.

说实话，我在美国碰到的印度人几乎都不想回国。中国基建很多领域已经超越美国，但印度整体水平和美国还差得很远。

 

Llamasandstocks2
Many are moving back. You are probably meeting indians who have been in us for 10+ years. They won’t move back because they have settled in their careers and family. Amongst students and new professionals, many of them are likely going to return back.

不少印度人是会回国的。你接触到的大概率是在美国定居十几年的老移民，事业家庭都稳定了自然不会走。在读学生和刚入职的年轻从业者里，很多人都会选择回去。

 

The Lost Darth
how stupid will believe this, no Indian will go back to that shithole

居然有人信这种话？没有印度人愿意回到那个糟糕的地方。（表述粗俗片面）

 

Llamasandstocks2
Do yourself a favor and go read this survey from gallup dating back to 2011. Only 5% of indians surveyed actually wanted to leave india and relocate somewhere else. That number is probably even lower today. Social media has fried your brain.

建议你去看盖洛普2011年的调研报告，当时仅5%的印度受访者打算移居海外，现在这个比例只会更低。社交媒体把你的认知带偏了。

 

Rudy
The best day for any Indian is the day they GTFO India. Many Indians would rather die than return to India.

对印度人来说，离开祖国的那天就是人生最好的一天，很多印度人宁死都不愿回去。（极端片面观点）

 

Donald Louis Erwin
I think the data is for worldwide, not just the US.

我觉得这份统计数据是全球范围的，不单单统计在美国的留学生。

 

Bay Harbor Butcher
So we are training our greatest rival and revealing all of our knowledge to them?

所以我们相当于在全力培养最大的竞争对手，还把核心技术和知识全盘拱手相送？

 

Jarl Cung
Every single Chinese student returning home is a big asset for China. They’ve seen the US economy firsthand & know its strengths and weaknesses inside out. Reminds me of how Peter the Great went to study Western Europe.

每一位学成归国的中国留学生都是宝贵人才。他们亲眼见识过美国经济，清楚对方的优势与短板，让我联想到当年彼得大帝远赴西欧学习先进技术。

 

DavidLiptonWI
This is nonsensical. One does not gain particularized economic knowledge on the US by doing a generic 4yr degree

这种说法站不住脚。普通四年制本科课程，根本学不到美国经济体系深层的核心专业知识。

 

John Garfield
It's not about seeing the US economy, its about having limited capacity in the short run, and then using that capacity to train people from your primary geopolitical competitor and exstential threat.

重点不在于了解美国经济，而是我们自身短期内教育资源有限，却还要用这些资源去培养主要地缘竞争对手的人才，给自己埋下长期隐患。

 

Lucian Atreides
It was easier to just import a German princess and make her monarch, which is what they tried next with Catherine the Great.

当年沙俄干脆迎娶德国公主执掌政权更省事，叶卡捷琳娜大帝就是这么来的。

 

EightyUppercuts
Well, I also knew a lot of Chinese students that would come here and just watch porn and play video games all day

我也认识不少来美国的中国留学生，整天就沉迷看不良影片、打游戏虚度光阴。（以偏概全）

 

TFAndrew
The same could be said of Japanese students in America several decades ago, though probably for quite different reasons.

几十年前赴美日本留学生也出现过大批归国的情况，只不过背后原因大不相同。

 

John
So why the hell do we educate them and take away spots from American children or children of our partners?

我们何苦耗费教育资源培养他们，挤占本国以及盟友子弟的入学名额呢？

 

Wizardm2000
Because we love F1 student visa who pay full ride. The thing is that now, F1s don’t get hire since eventually they are H1b and we know Wazup with that, so some schools will go broke and shut down but it won’t be the ivys.

因为学校很看重F1留学生全额缴纳的学费。但现在F1签证很难转H1B工作签证留美，企业也不愿录用，部分普通高校会因收入缩水倒闭，常春藤名校不会受影响。

 

Moneycel
In state students receive discounted tuition compared to out of state students. International students pay full price. We send students abroad as well

本州学生学费有优惠，外州学生费用更高，国际生则全额缴费。当然我们本国也有很多学生出国留学。

 

DavidLiptonWI
International students don't take away spots; they increase spots for native students by cross-subsidizing them (since universities lose money on in-state students)

国际生并没有挤占本土名额，他们的高额学费反向补贴了校内运营，反而能扩招更多本土学生，毕竟高校招收本州生本身是亏本的。

 

BRCooper
We should stop educating our enemies. That seems obvious but apparently it's not to most people.

我们应当停止为竞争对手提供教育资源。道理明明很浅显，大多数人却看不透。

 

J Not
Looks like it's safe to end student visa programs and let smart American kids go to elite schools!

干脆关停留学生签证项目，把顶尖名校的名额全部留给本国优秀青年。

 

covertproxy
Isn't this expected? It's why I never bought Garrett Jones's ideas about talent retention. The more the home country develops, the more talent it will naturally retain, given the pull factors of culture, familiarity, family, the fact a say, ivy league degree goes further.

出现这种人才回流趋势本来就在预料之中。我一直不认同加勒特·琼斯的人才留存理论。母国经济越发达，依靠亲情、文化归属感、人脉资源，加上海外名校学历在本土更吃香，自然就能留住大量人才。

 

Charlie Cai
Not by choice for most it seems. Look like requirements and competition have exponentially increased for those that want to stay in US.

大部分人回国并非主观首选，现在想要留在美国，门槛和竞争难度成倍上涨。

 

Spritz
might be better that way tbh. I used to be big into internationalism, but after witnessing what I witnessed across Europe/Americas over the past I dunno 4–8 years, I’m realizing it’s better if everyone return to their ethnic origins nd help make their own related-regions better

说实话或许这样更好。我以前极度推崇国际主义，但过去4到8年走访欧美各地之后才明白，各族裔回归故土建设自己的家园，或许是更合理的选择。

 

Booth
Biggest mistake of immigration policy in this country. We should want the best/brightest to come here and stay here especially if they are attending our schools

这是美国移民政策最大的失误。我们本该吸纳全球最顶尖的人才长期定居，尤其是那些在本国名校就读的优秀留学生。