US Air Force 'Smallest and Oldest' Since 1947, Is it Losing to China? | From The Frontline

美国空军规模、机龄创1947年以来最差纪录，美国空中优势正在被中国赶超？

Under the tenure of US President Donald Trump, the United States Air Force, which has dominated the skies for decades is now staring at a major crisis. The USAF is now the smallest and oldest it has ever been since its formation in 1947. The total mainpower has been cut down, while the aircraft inventory is also seeing a major drop. With aircraft like the F-16, F-15, B-52, A-10 and B-2 now pushing their age into 40 years, the US is in dire need of upgrading its aging air force. Even the most prized aircraft, the F-22 is also now crossing into more than two decades of service. Meanwhile, China is rolling out new and modern jets like the J-20 and the J-35 for the Peoples' Liberation Army Air Force or PLAAF at a pace that has not been achieved by any country since World War II. Is the US losing its edge? Watch the full report on From the Frontline on Firstpost to know more.

在特朗普执政时期，称霸天空数十年的美国空军正深陷重大危机。如今的美国空军，是1947年成立以来规模最小、战机平均机龄最老的一届。空军主力编制大幅缩减，现役战机总量也出现断崖式下滑。
F-16、F-15、B-52、A-10攻击机、B-2隐身轰炸机等机型，服役年限普遍逼近40年，美国空军急需大规模更新老旧机队。就连美军最顶尖的F-22隐身战机，服役时长也已超过二十年。

与此同时，中国人民解放军空军正以二战后全球独一份的速度，批量列装歼-20、歼-35等现代化新型战机。美国的空中领先优势是否正在丧失？

以下是印度网友的评论：

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
India's AMCA also looks like F-35 as well. Does that mean India has also copied ?

印度的AMCA隐身战机外形和F-35十分相似，那这么说印度也是抄袭的？

ImtiazKhanGre8
AMCA without engine

AMCA至今没有配套可用的国产发动机

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
@ImtiazKhanGre8 Pot calling kettle black.

这就是典型的五十步笑百步。

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
@ImtiazKhanGre8 I'm not an aeronautical engineer, but if you look at Tejas, it looks identical to French Dassault Mirage 2000. I just think that if India accusing another country of copying and stealing, first should look at themselves. You only accuse of someone commiting the crime that you haven't committed, otherwise this is hypocrite.

我不懂航空工程，但印度光辉战机的外观和法国达索幻影2000几乎一模一样。印度总指责其他国家抄袭、窃取技术，理应先审视自身。自己也一样，却只揪着别人批评，完全是双标。

Entertainmentcomedy24
China buys Russian engines while also manufacturing them

中国一边进口俄罗斯航空发动机，一边自己仿制生产

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
@Entertainmentcomedy24 China also did exactly what India had done, but China also reversed engineer these engines. I've to admit it is not a noble act, but knowledge acquirement has to start somewhere. If reverse engineering can help a country to speed up its defence industry, then so be it, as long as it doesn't rely on copy and paste forever, then I think it's acceptable which I think China is actively doing a lot of R&D at the moment.

中国和印度走了一样的路子，不过中国还吃透技术、逆向研发发动机。我承认逆向仿制算不上光彩的手段，但各国掌握先进技术总得有起步阶段。只要不会永远只会照搬仿制，逆向工程能快速推动本国军工发展就无可厚非，而且中国如今一直在大力投入自主研发。

Main.0375
Amca made of high-quality resin for display

AMCA现在只有高品质树脂做成的展示模型

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
@Main.0375 It's been over 10 years now since its inception, the model is still on display.

 这个项目立项十几年了，到头来还是只有模型摆在展厅。

vaishakhnair6046
AMCA only looks like F35. It dont work like F35. It doesnt work at all

AMCA只是长得像F-35，性能完全比不上，甚至连实际试飞都做不到

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
@vaishakhnair6046 Yes, it's still on the drawing board and several mock-ups, that's it.

没错，项目至今停留在图纸和几个实体模型阶段，没有实质进展。

repero_one1028
means battle tested before it realistic mass production of 20 years ago

也就是说二十年前就完成实战验证，才实现稳定量产

ToosinAkins
Seems the Chinese are catching up stealthily and speedily

中国军工正在悄无声息地快速追赶上来

ManasChowdhary
hell naah man... as much as i rely on firstpost, this video is bullshit!!! the comparison doesn't make any sense, US has less helicopters just becuase most of them are in the army, more that 2300 blackhawks and 800 apaches, and that is just the army, the 5 largest airpowers are USAF, US NAVY RUSSIAN AF, US ARMY AND THEN MARINES.

完全不是这么回事，我平时很信任第一邮报，但这期视频纯属胡说八道！这种对比根本不客观。美军直升机看着数量少，是因为绝大多数归属陆军，光是陆军就有2300多架黑鹰、800架阿帕奇。全球空中战力前五分别是美国空军、美国海军航空兵、俄罗斯空军、美国陆军航空兵、美国海军陆战队航空兵。

FransiscoSicnawa-i6n
Atleast China build them. And they have now 6G aircraft while US is in drawing board

起码中国能把战机造出来，中国六代机已经有实物，美国六代机还停留在图纸阶段

Entertainmentcomedy24
China didn't create anything new, it just polished old things.

China Any such product would be a Western reaction to China's copying of Russian

中国没有原创技术，只会改良别人淘汰的老旧装备

中国所有新式武器，都是模仿俄罗斯装备，西方国家才会针对性研发武器制衡

liang70
@Entertainmentcomedy24 Then where is Russian equivalent of a J20, PL-17/21, or a PHL-191?

 那俄罗斯能拿出和歼20、霹雳17/21、PHL-191火箭炮对标的装备吗？

rupeshsingh5439
Indian pilot also don't have experience whoever fly their jets loose their life in crash

印度飞行员实战经验严重不足，驾驶战机经常发生坠机事故丧命

samanthajones4877
In the old days when planes had to dog fight then experience mattered. Today, if there was a kinetic war between China and the US then little experience is required when all the Chinese pilots will be doing is selecting a target on their screen and pressing fire.

过去空战靠近距离缠斗，飞行员经验很关键。但如今中美一旦爆发正面冲突，飞行员的实战经验作用会大幅降低，中方飞行员只需要在屏幕锁定目标、发射导弹就行。

uska001
What if they are not competing to keep their techniques.

说不定两国根本没必要比拼军工技术

Footballbettingexpert
Tell me any war china has ever faught just like America

你说说中国打过哪场和美国规模相当的现代化战争

tommy-c6j7l
The Korean War in 1950, China vs the U.S. and UN forces; 1962 vs India; 1979 vs Vietnam. If we talk about “experience,” even the U.S. and Soviet armies that fought in WWII had no major large-scale war experience before that.
In the end, war is fundamentally about comprehensive national power.
The Middle East and Africa have seen continuous conflicts for decades, with plenty of combat experience. But which of those countries has become a true military power?

1950年抗美援朝，中国对阵美军及联合国军；1962年中印边境自卫反击战；1979年对越自卫反击战。再说所谓实战经验，二战前美国、苏联军队也没有大规模现代化作战经历。

说到底，战争比拼的是综合国力。中东、非洲战乱持续几十年，军队实战经验拉满，但有哪个国家称得上世界级军事强国？

geoffarnold6265
It is not the aircraft, it is the pilot. The US pilots have vastly superior combat skills over every other nation because we have fought multiple conflicts since 2001/2.
Israel has also shown it is the pilot not the aircraft that matters most.

空战胜负核心不在战机，而在飞行员。2001年以来美国接连参与多场战争，美军飞行员作战水平远超其他国家。以色列也证明过，飞行员素质比战机性能更关键。

Main.0375
The largest Airforce in the world is US Airforce.. The 2nd largest Airforce in the world is US Army aviation.. The 3rd largest Airforce in the world is US Navy aviation..
Top Nations with the Most Military Aircraft (All Branches Combined) -
1. United States - 13,247 (5,217 Air Force, 4,409 Army, 2,464 Navy, 1,157 Marines)
2. Russia - 4,173 (3,863 Air Force, 310 Navy)
3. China - 3,285 (1,991 Air Force, 857 Army, 437 Navy)
4. India - 2,186 (1,715 Air Force, 232 Army, 239 Navy)

全球第一大空中力量是美国空军，第二是美国陆军航空兵，第三是美国海军航空兵。

各国全军军机总数量排名：

1、美国：13247架（空军5217、陆军4409、海军2464、陆战队1157）
2、俄罗斯：4173架（空军3863、海军310）
3、中国：3285架（空军1991、陆军857、海军437）
4、印度：2186架（空军1715、陆军232、海军239）

lghsieh8860
No! No! No! It's not losing to China!
It's losing to INDIA!

才不是被中国赶超！美国空中优势会输给印度！

salmaniumair1240
USA has an advanced technology aircraft which no one have the main reason is they have lots of order

美国手握别国没有的先进战机，核心原因是海外采购订单源源不断

brahimpepe3849
If America really know that China military didn't having experience then should try to attack China first and let us see what's going on happen

美国要是认定中方军队缺乏实战经验，大可以主动开战，看看最后会是什么下场

herculesvlogs8095
China reverse engineered USA machines as well as Russian machines

中国不管是美国还是俄罗斯的装备，全都拿来逆向仿制

frankcheng1371
China is the 3rd largest, I guess India the the 2nd

军机总量中国排第三，我觉得印度才是第二

JoelReime
Okay so China has so far lacked the technology to build a modern fighter jet. China just recently built it's W15 engine which still falls behind modern Russian and Western jet engines. The J20 was reverse engineered from stolen F35 Blueprints and acquired blueprints for the Russian MiG 1.44. The J20 airframe is a hulking frame, the jet is massive because China cannot build knock offs of Western components small like Western companies with decades of experience in that tech can. China had to bring in Canadian and American fighter pilots to train the Chinese Air Force on how to fly their new Chinese jets, because the jets are bootlegs.
The J35, China's latest attempt at utilizing the F35 Blueprints they stole from the Pentagon in the early 2000's is a little closer to the real deal.
Taiwan has confirmed that American AWACS aircraft radars have been able to spot J20 's flying "deep" within Chinese airspace. The Taiwanese air force confirmed that their F16 Vipers armed with AMRAAM's could shoot down J20 's from beyond visual range. The F16 Viper is extremely manouverable but due to its hulking air frame the J20 is not.

中国长久以来缺乏自研先进战机的技术，涡扇15发动机刚量产，性能依旧落后于俄、西方主流航发。歼20是盗取F-35图纸、结合俄罗斯米格1.44方案逆向仿制而来。歼20机身庞大笨重，因为中国没有西方国家数十年零部件加工积累，做不出小型精密配件。这批仿制战机操控逻辑怪异，中国甚至要聘请加拿大、美国退役飞行员，来培训本国空军驾驶。

歼35是本世纪初盗取五角大楼F-35图纸后研发的仿制品，外观稍微贴近原版F-35。
台军证实，美军预警机雷达能在中国内陆空域远距离锁定歼20。台军配备中距空空导弹的F-16V，可在视距外击落歼20。F-16V机动性能极强，而歼20机身笨重，机动性差距很大。

jliang70
India should view things like copying and reverse engineering as a way to gain knowledge and expertise; most industrial nations did this at various stages of their development cycles. The US stole automotive technology from Europe, so did Japan steal from Europe, then Korea from Japan. At a certain point, they just move ahead from the people they copied and reverse-engineered. Today, we can't say the Chinese-made PL-15, PL-17, and PL-21 are copies of the US Air-Air missiles because they are well ahead of the tech of the US AIM-2600 is at a level of PL-15 almost a decade ago. There is nothing like today's Chinese fighter jets compared to Russian-made fighter jets like the Su-35. One of the major problems India is facing today is that, even though it had the Russian blueprint on Su-30MKI, they have never learned how to utilize the technology given to it by Russia, to build a better version or grab the knowledge from the Russians. India is still up on PPT and clay modelling for its new generation of fighter jets, while China is entering the phase of designing its own fighter jet, its own helicopters, building its own submarines, and advancing its own missile technology

印度应该把仿制、逆向研发当成积累技术的必经之路，绝大多数工业强国发展阶段都这么做过。美国当年盗取欧洲汽车技术，日本照搬欧洲，韩国又学习日本，发展到后期全都实现技术反超。

如今中国霹雳15、霹雳17、霹雳21空空导弹完全不能说是仿制美国产品，美方最新AIM-260导弹技术水平，只相当于十年前的霹雳15。现在中国自研战机和苏35这类俄制战机不存在雷同。

印度现在最大的短板：即便拿到俄罗斯苏30MKI全套图纸，也没能吃透核心技术、改良升级。印度新一代战机还停留在PPT图纸、黏土模型阶段，中国却已经自主设计战机、直升机、潜艇，导弹技术持续迭代升级。

Chosen_Ni
So the west can take and copy from everyone but everyone does not have the right to copy and take from them ? First post should be called western/India post . Propaganda bs . India shouldn’t be anti China . China didn’t colonize or impose imperialist act . Why the so much hate ? Or is it just jealousy?

合着西方国家当年随便盗取各国技术，其他国家仿制西方就有罪？这家媒体该改名西方印度宣传台，通篇都是带节奏的虚假宣传。印度没必要敌视中国，中国从未殖民他国、推行帝国主义政策，大家为什么对中国敌意这么重，难道单纯是嫉妒吗？

frankcheng1371
How about India

那印度自身又好到哪去？

Coldbeer-s2y
India crashes every flight

印度战机隔三差五就坠毁

rahulbhattacharyya1991
Usa never fought any war with a well established power. They always fought the underdog. If iran can do that imagine what china and russia can do

美国从未和实力对等的大国正面开战，对手全是弱势小国。连伊朗都能牵制美国，中俄的实力可想而知。

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
You're absolutely right. The US didn't win the Iran war. If Iran is a 3rd tier military power (without the nuke), and the US couldn't win. How can they win a war against China and Russia ?

你说得完全没错，美国在伊朗相关冲突里根本没占到便宜。伊朗只是无核三流军事国家，美国都无法彻底压制，更别说同时对抗中俄。

ManasChowdhary
@ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid iran war had restrictions, the air force completely did its job, we just cant see that as no videos are coming out of iran. the problem is with the political leadership not the airforce

当年美军在伊朗的行动受到多重政策限制，空军作战任务全部完成，只是当地没有流出作战视频。问题出在政界高层，而非空军战力。

BallowMaxwell
Do china have any reliable airforce, china tech is still far behind America tech
So this video is useless
China is only on power.

中国空军装备可靠性不足，整体技术和美国差距巨大，这期视频没有参考价值，中国只是纸面规模好看。

FaisaYounis
WHAT EXPERIENCE HAS U.S?? IT HAS BEEN FIGHTING WITH MILITIA AND FIRST PROPER ARMY IT FOUGHT WITH IS IRAN AND FAILED

美国所谓实战经验根本不值一提，常年只和民兵武装交手，第一次碰上正规大国军队伊朗，最后无功而返。

dauda75
If we go with your logic. Can you plz tell us what experience the Chinese army have

按你这个说法，那你说说中国军队有多少实战经验？

ButchCassidyAndSundanceKid
@dauda75 It sounds like you're a war-monger that you've to start a war to prove your strength. Starting a war, just because your mate is having a quibble with someone. Is it justified ? How would you like war in your own country ? People getting killed, all buildings bombed and collapsed, including your home. War should be the absolute last resort. Military hardware to be used is when its home nation under attack, not travel thousands of miles to fight a war which has no clear objective.

听你的意思，非要主动开战才能证明军力，这完全是好战思维。单纯因为别国产生摩擦就挑起战争合理吗？试想战火蔓延到你的国家，民众丧命、房屋炸成废墟，包括你的家。战争只能作为最后的自保手段，军队装备是用来抵御本土入侵，不是远赴万里打一场毫无明确目标的战争。

tommy-c6j7l
@dauda75 The Korean War in 1950, China vs the U.S. and UN forces; 1962 vs India; 1979 vs Vietnam. If we talk about “experience,” even the U.S. and Soviet armies that fought in WWII had no major large-scale war experience before that.
In the end, war is fundamentally about comprehensive national power.
The Middle East and Africa have seen continuous conflicts for decades, with plenty of combat experience. But which of those countries has become a true military power?

1950年抗美援朝，中国对阵美军及联合国军；1962年中印边境自卫反击战；1979年对越自卫反击战。再说所谓实战经验，二战前美国、苏联军队也没有大规模现代化作战经历。

说到底，战争比拼的是综合国力。中东、非洲战乱持续几十年，军队实战经验拉满，但有哪个国家称得上世界级军事强国？

michihofer587
America has been watching closely.

美国一直在密切关注双方军力发展动向。

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