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这就是中国正在建造核动力航母的铁证,吨位堪比美国福特级

Here’s proof that China is building a nuclear aircraft carrier, as big as US Ford class

这就是中国正在建造核动力航母的铁证,吨位堪比美国福特级

the latest Chinese aircraft carrier, the so called carrier 004. Video covers its history and photographic evidence, suggesting it is gonna be the largest Chinese carrier ever, their first nuclear powered carrier, and possibly even bigger than the US Ford carrier.

中国最新航母——即外界所称的004号航母,相关视频梳理了其研发历程并公布了实拍佐证,显示它将成为中国有史以来吨位最大的航母,也是中国首艘核动力航母,其规模甚至有可能超过美国的福特级航母。

以下是各国网友的评论:

Hellomhk
China has been hinted their 4th or 5th will be nuclear sub, so its no surprise

早有消息说中国第四、第五艘航母会是核动力的,这事儿一点不意外

 

brand8590
Just like China's just launched, current carrier is handicapped by bad deck geometry and underpowered functionally. Let me know when this one's launched so we can have more laughs.

中国现在的航母就跟刚下水的那艘一样,甲板设计拉胯,性能上也动力不足。等这艘核动力的下水了说一声,让我们再好好笑一场

 

razz9266
Well, America's created their own problem... and the problem with their problem is their problem keep getting increased

说到底美国的烂摊子都是自己作的,更糟的是,这麻烦还越闹越大

 

usa748
A lot of very angry and shitfaced americans and their slaves in the comments slandering china with the usual racist rants lol. Everytime one of them open their mouths it shows their fear of china. They know they cannot compete so they slander and ridicule with more and more lies. Its basically to reassure themselves that they are not losers, the problem is .....reality

评论区一堆气急败坏的美国人,还有他们的跟屁虫,老一套的种族主义言论抹黑中国,哈哈人。这帮人一开口,全是对中国的恐惧。他们知道比不过,就靠编瞎话抹黑嘲讽。说白了就是自我安慰,告诉自己不是失败者,可现实偏不遂他们愿

 

DrewK-e2i
Damn, I'd never thought I'd see the day China made a nuclear power carrier, and one that's even larger than the US's

我去,真没想到有生之年能看到中国造核动力航母,还是比美国的还大的那种

 

Navanuakiki
China will use AI robots to build warships ,carriers and submarines at very fast speeds

中国会用人工智能机器人造军舰、航母和潜艇,速度会特别快

 

spartancrown
Of course it will be bigger than the Ford China has always had a insecurity issue so it will want the ability to say biggest warship in the world.

当然会比福特级大,中国一直都有安全感缺失的问题,就想能喊出自己有世界最大军舰这句话

 

Void_Dreamwalker
Yeah. It's also the same why America built the Ford class

可不是嘛,美国造福特级也是这个原因

 

michaelz5561
@Void_Dreamwalker Also the same reason why trump is talking about the "golden fleet" US got insecure after realizing china has 200 times the ship building capacity and recently launched a 5th gen fighter jet off their carrier with EMALS while US still can't launch their F35s with EMALS thus the golden fleet

特朗普提“黄金舰队”也是这个理。美国发现中国造船能力是自己的200倍,还看到中国最近用电磁弹射在航母上起飞了五代机,而美国的电磁弹射连F35都弹不起来,这下彻底慌了,才有了这所谓的黄金舰队

 

spartancrown
@Void_Dreamwalker yeah because it didn't already have 10 Nimitz carriers, wouldn't have anything to do with those reaching their life cycle in the coming years and needing replacement hilarious

可不是嘛,倒不是因为美国已经有10艘尼米兹级了,也不是因为这些航母近几年就到寿命要替换了,绝不是,真可笑

 

seventhscimitar
A Chinese carrier group with 2 Type 55 Class could likely end any blockade of the Malacca straight on its own.

中国一个配了两艘055型驱逐舰的航母战斗群,单枪匹马估计就能打破马六甲海峡的任何封锁

 

IBCommittee
Chinese officials have stated that they will always maintain friendly relations with the United States, so we don't need to worry about these things.

中国官员已经表态,会一直和美国保持友好关系,所以这些事我们没必要担心

 

Latinkon
Size won't matter if this ends up being the modern day version of the Japanese aircraft carrier Shinano.

要是这航母成了现代版的日本信浓号,再大的吨位也没用

 

omnomnom5359
its only when your opponent builds a bigger, better one that people start saying these things.

只有当对手造了更大、更先进的装备,某些人才会说这种酸话

 

uselesstable2058
Funny thing is the chinese are not the japanese

可笑的是,中国人可不是日本人

 

kamsunleong6648
Like the the US navy carrier USS Harry Truman nearly did from Houthi rockets in the Red Sea. Trump had to call a truce before it happens.

就像美国海军的哈里·杜鲁门号航母,在红海差点被胡塞的火箭弹击中。特朗普没办法,只能先停火

 

s3p4kner
Number 5 + 6 were said to be nuclear. 1 + 2 are Russian based to learn from. 3 + 4 are conventional home-grown designs to hone their knowledge. With a reliable refuelling platform for their aircraft, Taiwan can begin.

据说第五、第六艘才是核动力的。第一、二艘参考俄式设计,用来学习。第三、四艘是国产常规动力,打磨技术。等有了可靠的舰载机加油平台,就可以动手解决台湾问题了

 

theguy8412
Yeah brother that's why type 004 it has nuclear modules, m0r0n

可不是嘛兄弟,所以004型才有核动力模块啊,蠢货

 

raym-c2n3y
Last year China launched similar size large ship but it was container ship with Thorium molten salt technology which is most advance with no need for water cooling and less likely melt down than conventional nuclear generation; Thus it is safer too.

去年中国也下水了一艘同尺寸的大船,不过是艘集装箱船,用的是钍基熔盐核技术,这技术最先进,不用水冷,比传统核动力更不容易熔堆,所以也更安全

 

cruchot555
The Chinese have already stolen the blueprints of USS Gerald Ford? Boy, they're fast.

中国人是不是已经偷了杰拉尔德·福特号的图纸?好家伙,动作真快

 

kamsunleong6648
The EMAL system on board the USD13 billion Gerald Ford don't even work. Never has from day one. Unlike the one on board the Chinese carrier Fujian. The US Navy should learn from the Chinese how to do it right.

耗资130亿美元的福特号,上面的电磁弹射系统根本用不了,从一开始就没正常过。和中国福建舰上的电磁弹射完全不是一回事。美国海军真该学学中国,看看怎么把这技术做对

 

rvail136
It's time for Japan to build CVs of their own. 3 or 4 at least...with 4 full CV task forces of their own working in conjunction with PacFleets 3 or 4...thst should be enough to control WestPac.

日本该自己造航母了,至少造个三四艘。组建四个完整的航母战斗群,和美国太平洋舰队的三四支配合行动,这样应该就能控制西太平洋了

 

TC-3ntrep
Keep dreaming a wet dream Japan is not china they're weak if US is not protecting them I highly doubt Japan can stand against china in a week

做你的春秋大梦吧,日本可不是中国,他们弱得很。要是没有美国保护,我敢说日本撑不过一周就会被中国打垮

 

opswhyyou7216
Although it is true that before real combat results, anything you claim should be taken with some skeptism, some of China's equipment are already kinda proven. The most notable recent example is J-10CE. Less noticeable but equally valid examples include numerous exchanges between J20 and F35, and a recent exchange between J15T and F15J. If you get locked on first from more than 100km away and you are still treating Chinese equipment like some flimsy cheap copy, then either you're co or you still live in the 1980s.

诚然,在实际作战结果出来前,任何说法都该存疑,但中国有些装备的实力已经得到验证了。最近最典型的就是歼10CE。还有些没那么受关注但同样有说服力的例子,比如歼20和F35的多次交锋,以及最近歼15T和F15J的对抗。如果在一百多公里外就被中国装备率先锁定,还把中国装备当成劣质仿品,那要么是你在自我安慰,要么就是还活在八十年代

 

opswhyyou7216
Oh sorry it's a vanilla J15, not even the T version

哦抱歉,是普通版歼15,连T型都不是

 

agungprasetyo2665
Its a hoax.. China only copying US techs.. US is the best.

这都是骗人的,中国只会抄美国的技术,美国才是最厉害的

 

teng27
The US built first nuclear power aircraft carrier in the 1960s, China will finally catch up in 2030. The US built first stealth aircraft in 1980s, China finally caught up in 2010s. Not bad China not bad at all. You’re catching up. The question is what else the US been hiding. All those UFO sightings are suspicious. Out of 180 countries in the world why UFO mostly being spotted in the US. those UFO have to be secret US military projects.

美国上世纪60年代就造出了第一艘核动力航母,中国要到2030年才能赶上。美国80年代造了第一架隐形战机,中国21世纪10年代才追上。不错了中国,真的不错,总算在赶进度了。问题是,美国还藏了些什么黑科技?那些UFO目击事件太可疑了,世界上180个国家,为什么UFO大多出现在美国?这些UFO肯定是美国的秘密军事项目

 

Br1cht
They have 2600% more shipbuilding capacity than the US so they can trade ships in a dis-favorable ratio. Since the US cannot concentrate their whole fleet in Chyna´s waters because of the Master of the US demand assets in the Med and or Red Sea for counter against Iran and there´s some Atlantic force needed if the Russians wants to tango we better hope and pray that they have something hidden, The Euro serf-states is of no use other than as somewhere to base the occupational forces every country other France have for "their protection" is land/air heavy.

中国的造船能力是美国的27倍,所以就算战损比吃亏也耗得起。美国没法把全部舰队调到中国周边海域,因为美国高层要求在地中海、红海部署兵力制衡伊朗,要是俄罗斯想动手,大西洋也得留兵力。我们只能祈祷美国还有藏着的黑科技了。欧洲那些附庸国一点用都没有,也就只能当个驻军基地。除了法国,其他欧洲国家为了“自保”搞的军力,全是重陆空、轻海军

 

Emphasis213
If the US had UFO alien tech in their hands then they would have dominated the world a long long time ago.

要是美国真掌握了外星UFO的技术,早就称霸世界了

 

True_Vishwaguru
The US have nothing. They lost all their manufacturing ability since WW2. Yes China is now making nuclear aircraft carriers now. The difference is China is using the latest tech while the US carriers are old and half of them are normally under repair at any given time.

美国什么都没有了,二战后制造业就全废了。没错,中国现在是在造核动力航母,关键是中国用的是最前沿的技术,而美国的航母全是老古董,任何时候都有一半在修

 

teng27
@True_Vishwaguru how is China use the latest tech when they just be able to build 1960s nuclear power aircraft carrier that made no sense.. China can’t even build a 1960s chinook helicopters.

你这话毫无道理,中国才刚能造美国上世纪60年代水平的核动力航母,哪来的用最前沿技术?中国就连60年代的支奴干直升机都造不出来

 

omnomnom5359
dont tell me you think that the stealth aircraft and nuclear carriers of today are anything of the same with the ones back then?

不会吧,你不会觉得现在的隐形战机、核动力航母,和几十年前的是一个东西吧?

 

james_l4337
There's no such naming as 003A for carrier. Carrier 002 was dub by world (West) media as 001A. But history shows PLAN name it carrier 002 #17. Unlikely there's such thing as carrier 003A hull #19. Carrier hull #19 will be name 004. China 1st nuclear-power carrier is carrier hull #20 be name 005.

航母根本没有003A这个编号。002型航母被西方媒体乱叫成001A,但事实证明中国海军给它的编号就是002,舷号17。大概率也不会有003A型、舷号19的航母,舷号19的航母会是004型。中国第一艘核动力航母是舷号20的那艘,编号005

 

Vangboi414
So China finally reached the US 1960s level. The US built nuclear power aircraft carrier in 1960s. China you finally catching up! Nice job well done

所以中国总算达到美国上世纪60年代的水平了,美国60年代就造核动力航母了。中国,你总算追上了,干得漂亮

 

paulpowell4871
China is preparing for WW3, The USA for WW2.5 and Europe for The World Cup, Russia for WW2 and Africa for the Zulu Wars. ANZACs for Summer Vacation and a Concert

中国在为第三次世界大战做准备,美国在为二点五次大战准备,欧洲在准备世界杯,俄罗斯在为二战复刻版准备,非洲还停留在祖鲁战争的节奏,澳新军团则在准备暑假和演唱会

 

Phantom-bh5ru
Ain’t no way people are saying China is gonna go bankrupt from a single ship lmfao. China builds over half of all ships in the world yearly. If China decided to construct a 1 million ton displacement uber carrier that would still not even be 2% of the total for a single year of commercial ship building

哈哈,居然有人说中国造一艘航母就会破产。中国每年造的船占全球一半还多,就算造一艘100万吨的超级航母,其工程量还不到中国一年民用造船量的2%

 

K-Man-k5n
China, the ancient civilization of losers. Has to copy the West for two centuries to advance at all. They might as well call themselves westerners in the making. They would still be in the medieval age if it didnt.

中国,就是个千年败落的文明,两百年来只能靠抄西方才能发展。干脆直接说自己是准西方人得了,要是不抄,现在还活在中世纪呢

 

Wedgetail96
Prior to the Russian carrier, China purchased Australia’s decommissioned HMAS Melbourne in 1985. This allowed an additional decade or so to examine a carrier prior to 1998

在买俄罗斯航母之前,中国1985年就买了澳大利亚退役的墨尔本号航母。这让中国在1998年之前,多了十几年的时间研究航母结构

 

menboughanmi5819
There is a possibility by the time type 04 is commissioned and in active use it will have the first 6th gen naval fighter the J50 along side the 5th Gen J35 and the J15T with heavy drones and kj600 early warning .

004型航母服役形成战斗力时,大概率会搭配中国首款第六代舰载机歼50,还有五代机歼35、歼15T,再加上重型无人机和空警600预警机

 

NomadMao
It’s not news that the 4th aircraft carrier of PLAN will be nuclear powered. Like, everyone knows that at least two years ago.

中国海军第四艘航母是核动力的,这早就不是新闻了,至少两年前大家就都知道了

 

InHellBaby1
Not surprised. Asians often try to compensate for size.

一点不意外,亚洲人总喜欢靠堆尺寸来弥补短板

 

frankiedeuce801
We bankrupted the USSR this way. Even if they do build one, a task force is expensive. Plus we have MOTHBALLED a whole other fleet of task forces, including the air wings.

我们当年就是这么拖垮苏联的。就算中国造得出核动力航母,航母战斗群的开销也是天文数字。更何况我们还有一大批封存的航母战斗群,连舰载机联队都一起封存着

 

cz1589
Good way to go bankrupt. China peaked too soon. Doesn't matter how good those carriers are even if better then u.s ones. China has great geographic disadvantages, preventing maritime power projection on global scale. With a dozen nations close by that hate them. It's not whether to overrate or underestimat their technical capabilities, but the failure for strategic dominance. Their failure in international connections came with a great debt. They don't have the reserves to back this maritime ambition

这是走向破产的绝佳路子,中国崛起得太早了。航母造得再好,就算比美国的还强也没用。中国的地理劣势太明显,根本没法实现全球海上力量投送。周边十几个国家都敌视中国。问题不在于高估或低估他们的技术,而在于他们根本没能力实现战略主导。中国在国际上众叛亲离,还欠了一屁股债,根本没家底支撑这种海洋野心

 

kb9oak749
I'm sure the reactor will be perfectly safe

我敢肯定,这航母的核反应堆绝对安全得很

 

azijadn
Did you hear him saying China built it's first nuclear submarine in the 70's?

你听到他说中国70年代就造出第一艘核潜艇了吗?

 

BigBigBigJeff
They have the most nuclear reactors in the world. Cope harder

中国拥有世界上最多的核反应堆,有本事继续酸

 

mnxavierh
China currently holds the largest share of nuclear power fission technology patents globally and dominates recent filings in that area. China also leads in the number of nuclear fusion patent applications. China strengths are especially clear number 1 in reactor design, system safety, and integrated nuclear power technologies.

中国目前持有全球核裂变技术专利的最大份额,最近的相关专利申请也都是中国占主导。核聚变专利申请数量中国也排第一。中国的优势特别明显,反应堆设计、系统安全、核动力综合技术,全都是世界第一

 

laowantongchau
And the US Ford carrier can't even launch the F 35s

还有,美国的福特号连F35都弹不起来

 

jkc3738
China's military spending should be rapidly increased from less than 1.5% of its GDP to around 5%, just as Trump demanded

中国的军费开支该大幅提升了,从占GDP不到1.5%涨到5%左右,就像特朗普要求的那样

 

joandelur4407
China surpassed US Army by far. In Sea and Air one time the one, now bit the dust back China.

中国陆军早就远超美国了。海空领域,美国曾经一枝独秀,现在也被中国反超了

 

A_Haunted_Pancake
Even if the Chinese can build a nuclear carrier the SIZE of the Ford Class, that doesn't mean it will be anywhere near equal in performance. Let's not forget the first Chinese nuclear submarine was arguably worse than its American counterpart, despite being laid down 20 years later. To be fair, the Chinese have learned a lot about shipbuilding since 1974, but I would be unpleasantly surprised if it started to venture further than its predecessors. However, I'd give it decent chance that it will stay even closer to home and that for a myriade of reasons but it's not like they can't learn from that.

就算中国能造出和福特级同尺寸的核动力航母,也不代表性能能跟福特级相提并论。别忘了,中国第一艘核潜艇比美国的晚造20年,性能却明显更差。平心而论,1974年至今,中国在造船方面学到了很多,但如果这艘核航母的活动范围比之前的航母大很多,我会觉得意外,而且是不好的意外。不过,出于各种原因,它大概率会更靠近本土活动,当然,中国也能从运营中不断学习

 

DaveR7920
The speed at which China is building its military while also carrying out all of its other projects is very impressive. Of course we don't know how they will fair in a fight with a larger or even near peer. We don't know that about the US either though.

中国一边推进各类民生和基建项目,一边以这样的速度发展军力,真的令人惊叹。当然,我们不知道他们和更强的对手,甚至实力相当的对手交战会表现如何。不过,美国的实战表现,我们其实也同样摸不准

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