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印度上将:若获社会认可,陆军愿吸纳女性加入步兵部队

'Army ready to induct women in infantry if there is societal acceptance': General Upendra Dwivedi

乌彭德拉・杜维迪上将:若获社会认可,印度陆军愿吸纳女性加入步兵部队

NEW DELHI: General Upendra Dwivedi said on Tuesday the Army is ready to induct women in the infantry but that is contingent on societal acceptance.

Stressing that women should not be seen as a “vulnerable commodity”, the General, during a media briefing, said the Army's focus is on “gender neutrality”. “If standards are same, if capabilities are same, and in India as a nation, society is ready to accept it, it (combat role) can be done tomorrow,” he said.

He said uniform standards are essential, but achieving them remains a challenge due to medical and operational constraints. Gen Dwivedi said performance data of women officers will determine the opening of more roles, starting with supporting arms, followed by combat arms and eventually special forces, calling it a “sequential and welcome social change.”

新德里:乌彭德拉・杜维迪上将于周二表示,印度陆军已做好吸纳女性加入步兵部队的准备,此事能否落地则取决于社会层面的认可。

这位上将在媒体吹风会上强调,不应将女性视为 “易受伤害的群体”,并称印度陆军的发展核心是 “性别中立”。他表示:“只要招录标准统一、人员能力相当,且印度社会整体做好接纳准备,女性投身作战岗位这件事,明天就能落地。”

杜维迪上将指出,统一的招录标准是关键,但受医疗条件与作战实际的限制,落实这一标准仍面临挑战。他称,女性军官的履职表现数据,将决定陆军为女性开放更多岗位的节奏 —— 先开放支援部队岗位,再逐步拓展至作战部队,最终延伸至特种部队。他将这一过程称作 “循序渐进、值得乐见的社会变革”。



Giving an estimate of the number of women in the Army currently, the Army chief had last year said, “In the NDA as of today, we have 60 women Army cadets and every year, we are looking at (inducting) 20 cadets. Also, in the Officers’ Training Academy (OTA)—Chennai and Gaya—we are looking at 120 per year.” When it comes to inducting women in the other ranks (ORs), it involves a change in Section 12 of the Army Act, he had said.

The Army was looking at a 12 times increase in women’s induction in ORs by 2032. “Currently, the total number of women officers is 8,000,” he had said. The Territorial Army opened up for women and 110 vacancies will come up for women, he had added.

关于印度陆军当前的女性军人规模,这位陆军参谋长去年曾给出相关数据:“目前,国防学院共有 60 名陆军女学员,我们计划每年新增招录 20 名。此外,金奈和加亚两地的军官训练学院,每年将为女性开放 120 个招录名额。” 他还表示,若要吸纳女性加入士兵行列,需对《陆军法》第 12 条进行修订。

印度陆军计划到 2032 年,将女性士兵的招录规模提升至目前的 12 倍。杜维迪上将此前透露:“现阶段,印度陆军的女性军官总数为 8000 人。” 同时,印度地方军已向女性开放招录,将为女性增设 110 个岗位名额。

 

以下是印度时报读者的评论:

Rao Rao
What about our saffron chaddiwallas like RSS, Bajrang Dal, VHP etc?. These goonda are only good for bullying defenceless minorities. Why not have a separate fighting unit for them and send them to the border with Pakistan or China. Lets see how these chaddis perform fighting real men.

国民志愿服务团、 Bajrang Dal、世界印度教大会这些穿藏红衫的印度教激进分子,又算什么?这帮暴徒也就只会欺负手无寸铁的少数族裔。咋不给他们单独组建作战部队,派去印巴、中印边境?让他们去跟真刀真枪的军人打仗,看看这帮家伙到底能撑多久。

 

sunsivj
This country is still being secular because this is largely Hindu and all those non Hindus were erstwhile Hindus and have a better cultural mindset. Those who had come from Bangladeshi and some very...

这个国家还能保持世俗化,就是因为主体是印度教徒。那些非印度教徒,祖上也都是印度教徒,骨子里的文化认知都差不离。那些从孟加拉过来的人,还有些别的外来者,根本就不是一路人。

 

Umesh Kamat
defenceless minorities???
Forget to wear lungi?? And jaliwali.. baniyan... Rao Miya??

手无寸铁的少数族裔?你怕是忘了他们还会耍刀弄棒吧?你这话可真够可笑的。

 

Raghavendra
How deranged and unhinged is your mind that rss that rss lives in it rent free?

你脑子是有多不正常,满脑子都是国民志愿服务团,这事跟他们八竿子打不着吧?

 

Ramesh
A woman's qualities are mental strength, patience, caring and resilience. A man's qualities are physical strength, courage and hand-eye co-ordination. In an ideal society both sexes should do what they can do best.

女性的特质是心智坚韧、有耐心、懂得体恤、抗压性强。男性的特质是体格健壮、果敢、手眼协调能力好。在理想的社会里,男女都该各司其职,做自己最擅长的事。

 

srinath kugwe
It’s outdated quote sir .. women represent every field now .. change is the only constant thing in the world

先生,这说法早就过时了。现在女性活跃在各个领域,世界唯一不变的就是变化本身。

 

Alok
Stop this gender equality nonsense. Society is suffering enough already.

别再扯性别平等的废话了,这个社会已经够糟的了。

 

Mudi Ji
Sexst mindset

性别歧视的思想。

 

 

Common Man
Army chief is aound like a woke. These words shouldn't have come from an Imdian Army Chief. Social acceptance had to be the last consideration if at all. In fact army should only see the viably and have a thorough study on the topic internally and shouldn't be on the whims and fancies of someone.

陆军参谋长这话听着就像个伪善的进步派,这些话根本不该从印度陆军参谋长嘴里说出来。就算要考虑,社会认可也该是最后一个考量因素。事实上,军队只该考虑可行性,在内部对这事做深入研究,不该被别人的心血来潮牵着走。

 

Ravi Palur
I fully endorse your view. The Indian Army is a professional organization. A professional organization decides induction based on its necessities, threat perceptions and not on public opinion. Women ...

我完全赞同你的观点。印度陆军是专业的军事机构,专业机构招兵买马,只看自身需求和安全威胁,不会被民意左右。女性从军这事……

 

Andabotbindaasneha
India can't afford these nuisance optics ....we are surrounded by pathans afghans Bangladeshis which no woman can fight physically. ...the entire structure will collapse.

印度经不起这种无意义的表面功夫。我们周边都是普什图人、阿富汗人、孟加拉人,从体能上,女性根本没法跟他们对抗。真这么做,整个军队体系都会垮掉。

 

Mudi Ji
Well even indian men can't fight afgan pathans

呵,就算是印度男性,也未必打得过阿富汗的普什图人。

 

Kartic Krishnan
I thought it was already there.

我还以为这事早就落实了。

 

Scl Premi
Women POW infantry persons might come back with multiple foreign born kids. That situation would be hard to accept or even to reject.

步兵里的女性战俘,回来时可能怀着一堆外国人的孩子。这种情况,接受不了,想拒绝也难。

 

User
First let Army accept it, then Society wud accept too.

先让军队自己接受,社会自然就会接受了。

 

Dharmesh Jhaveri
I don’t think army needs society permission…it’s our army who protects us …

我觉得军队根本不需要征求社会的同意,是军队在保护我们啊

 

User
First let Army accept it, then Society wud accept too.

先让军队自己接受,社会自然就会接受了。

 

Dharmesh Jhaveri
I don’t think army needs society permission…it’s our army who protects us …

我觉得军队根本不需要征求社会的同意,是军队在保护我们啊

 

Jatin Kohli
What would happen to women soldiers captured by the enemy? Will society come to their rescue? It is easy to support on social media but all those supporting are miles from ground reality in the name of women empowerment. In countries where total population is not enough, women may be a part of the infantry. However in India's case we should not go down this path. This statement seems to be designed to get and analyze reactions from public, so here it is :)

女兵被敌人俘虏了会怎样?社会会去救她们吗?在社交媒体上喊支持很容易,可那些打着女权旗号的人,根本不懂现实情况。人口不足的国家,或许会让女性加入步兵,但印度不该走这条路。这位参谋长的话,看着就是故意说出来收集民众反应的,那我就说说我的看法:)

 

Rinku Singh
Nari Shakti..flagship prog of Modiji.

女性力量,这可是莫迪总理的核心政策。

 

User
Only operational aspects should be decider. Army is very important for security, unity and integrity. Don't compromise. We can't think about social acceptability, some one's liking, daring mind, fetish to experience.... and experiment. Ofcourse where ever possible, they can be part of, without compromising operational requirements

只该以作战需求为唯一标准。军队关乎国家的安全、统一和领土完整,绝不能妥协。我们不能考虑社会认不认可,也不能被个人喜好、一时的冲劲、猎奇的心态左右,更不能随便试验。当然,在不影响作战的前提下,女性可以参与军队的相关工作。

 

srinath kugwe
These days women represent all fields then why not in infantry ? That doesn’t require society approval let’s move towards developed nation not backwards in the name of society

现在女性能涉足所有领域,为什么就不能加入步兵?这事根本不需要社会批准,我们要朝着发达国家的方向走,别打着社会的旗号开倒车。

 

 

AB
Act in haste, repent at leisure. Don't take populist, political decision and make life miserable for lower commanders on ground for rest of life

草率行事,追悔莫及。别为了迎合民意、搞政治作秀做决定,让一线的基层指挥官这辈子都活在麻烦里。

 

Vijay Tenneti
Lots of dinosaurs commenting here. Meanwhile in real wars like the one between Russia and Ukraine there are plenty of women soldiers engaged in real combat.

这里好多思想守旧的人在评论。看看俄乌战争这种真实的战场,有多少女兵在前线真刀真枪打仗。

 

Shaleen Mathur
India needs hundreds of thousands of female Agniveer Veerangnas. They will be great asset to the nation trained by the army. After 5 years with armed forces even if unemployed they will be great asset for female safety and security.

印度需要成千上万的女性阿格尼维军巾帼战士。经军队训练后,她们会成为国家的宝贵财富。就算在军队服役5年后失业,她们也能为女性的安全保障贡献巨大力量。

 

 

User FNB
One side men ll do 100 push ups daily and they ll do 50. They won't go to the frontline . They ll be used for clearing area , search operations etc. Get it ? They won't engage enemies head on. Because if captured you know what ll happen. But anyways 100x better than women working under AC and claiming they are equal to men . Strength to you

男人每天做100个俯卧撑,女人顶多做50个。她们不会被派去前线,顶多做做清场、搜查之类的工作。懂吗?不会让她们跟敌人正面硬刚。因为一旦被俘,后果不堪设想。但不管怎么说,这也比那些吹着空调上班,还喊着男女平等的女性强一百倍。加油吧。

 

Chill Pill
Rich and ancient CULTURE of the land, well-documented in mythological stories, will decide on such topics.

这片土地悠久深厚的文化,早已记载在神话传说中,这类事,该由我们的文化来定。

 

Guest
Reduce the number and improve the quality of army personal. Army is not to give employment but to protect nation., so make sure not even one incompetent person is there in Army.

精简军队人数,提升军人素质。军队不是就业机构,是保家卫国的,所以绝不能让一个庸才留在军队里。

 

Haridas Nair
Jai Bharat Jai Sree Krishna Jai Modiji

印度万岁,奎师那神万岁,莫迪总理万岁。

 

Manoj Thaker
Problem with our soc is WE SPEAK DOUBLE STANDARDS. IF DEFENCE AND ARMY DOES ANY CHANGE AS PER THEIR STUDY AND DECISIONS STILL WE CRETICIZE THEM. HERE ARMY CHIEF IS JUST OING. WE NEED NOT KNOW WHAT THEY DECIDE AND DO. WHAT HAPPENED TO AGNEEVEER SCH. ALL KNOW

我们社会的问题就是双标。国防部和军队根据研究做些改革,我们照样骂。这次参谋长只是发表个看法而已,我们没必要事事都要知道他们的决策和行动。阿格尼维军计划现在成什么样了,大家心里都清楚。

 

Meher Gadamsetti
Very disappointing to hear a statement like this from Head of Army, when all armies of the world have women in combat role.

世界各国军队都让女性参与作战了,印度陆军最高长官却说出这种话,太让人失望了。

 

Yoga N Mani
The General is foxy enough to be a Politician.Knowing India's antipathy to women coming to the fore, the General has made acceptance of women in Army conditional on SOCIETAL ACCEPTANCE.I still reca...

这位上将精明得像个政客。他明知印度社会抵触女性身居要职,就把女性从军的前提,定成了要获得社会认可。我至今还记得……

 

Ck Raju
Indian Women Army, Indian Women Navy and Indian Women Airforce - are the need of the hour.

印度女子陆军、女子海军、女子空军,这才是当下的迫切需求。

 

Chhota Chhatri
Social acceptance is an aspect that the Indian society still does not have in certain areas. We have had women prime minister, president, cabinet ministers, chief ministers, even sports players. But women in infantry roles? Most men may not accept it. Not to forget, for terrorists of Pakistan getting neutralized by women infantry of Indian Armed Forces is twice the insult or humiliation, but something we few good men will celebrate and appreciate. When women can be Police Commissioners or DGPs, why not in infantry, or even get the Army Chief of Staff? Time we think about it!

在某些领域,印度社会至今还做不到接纳女性。我们出过女性总理、总统、内阁部长、邦首席部长,也有优秀的女性运动员。但让女性加入步兵?大多数男性恐怕都接受不了。别忘了,巴基斯坦的恐怖分子要是被印度女兵消灭,对他们来说是双倍的羞辱,而我们这些明事理的人,会为此欢呼喝彩。女性能当警察总监、警察总长,为什么就不能加入步兵,甚至成为陆军参谋长?是时候好好想想这事了!

 

Tilakdhari
Thats what happens when govt makes a khakhi nikkkar rss gang member as Army Chief.

政府让一个穿卡其布制服的国民志愿服务团分子当陆军参谋长,结果就是这样。

 

Lone Wolf
Backward India will soon be taken over by China/USA....maybe even Pakistan with Chinese help.
Israeli/Russian Forces have nearly 50 % women.

思想落后的印度,很快就会被中国、美国赶超,甚至可能在中方的帮助下,被巴基斯坦赶超。以色列和俄罗斯的军队里,女性占比都快到50%了。

 

Jai
Google what Pakistan did to Captain Saurabh Kalia and his team and imagine what of they were Indian women soldiers instead of them.

去谷歌搜搜巴基斯坦对绍拉布·卡利亚上尉和他的队员做了什么,再想想如果被俘的是印度女兵,后果会是什么。

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