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让世界开始尊敬中国的将军——彭德怀,迫使世界重新认识新中国的实力

The General Who Made the World Respect China - Peng Dehuai

让世界开始尊敬中国的将军——彭德怀

In 1950, China was barely a year old. It had no meaningful navy, a limited air force, and almost no international recognition as a major power.

Then the Korean War changed everything. Under the command of Peng Dehuai, Chinese forces crossed the Yalu River, halted a United Nations advance, and forced the world to rethink what the new Chinese state was capable of.

1950年,新中国成立尚不足一年。那时,中国没有像样的海军,空军力量薄弱,国际上几乎不被视为大国。

朝鲜战争的爆发,彻底改变了这一切。在彭德怀的指挥下,中国人民志愿军跨过鸭绿江,击退“联合国军”的进攻,迫使世界重新认识这个新生的中国的实力。

以下是各国网友的评论:

lordlee6473
Before China was involved, US was warned not to cross the 38th line, which McArthur arrogantly ignored. During the Vietnam war, US again was warned not to cross the 19th line, which the US heeded

在中国介入之前,美国就被警告不要越过38线,但麦克阿瑟很傲慢,无视中国的警告。到了越南战争期间,美国再次被警告不要越过17度线,这次美国听从了。

 

rationalthinker2200
It was not that China fought the US led UN troops to a standstill..It actually forced the US Army longest battle field retreat in the US entire History ...that did not result in US retaking it back later..on the battlefield.

不光是说中国把美国为首的联合国军打成了僵持。实际上,中国迫使美军进行了美国整个历史上最长的战场撤退,而且美军后来也没能在战场上夺回那些地盘。

 

 

homan2329
The Chinese fought not just against the USA without airforce, navy , heavy armour and barely sufficient light ammunition. They fought against 22 nations in which 16 provided combat troops. Australia , Belgium , UK ,Canada , New Zealand , France , Netherlands just to name a few.

中国人当时不仅是在没有空军、海军、重型装甲和轻武器弹药都几乎不足的情况下对抗美国。他们对抗的是22个国家,其中16个出动了作战部队。澳大利亚、比利时、英国、加拿大、新西兰、法国、荷兰等等,仅举几例。

 

jamesworth4573
Manpower is strength, also they did have heavier equipment like T-34-85

人力多就是优势,而且他们确实也有像T-34-85这样的重装备。

 

jetblack6850
1911 would still blow your head off. A Mosin-Nagat will still kill you at 1000 meter. Even today the US can't even defeat Iran.

一把1911手枪照样能打爆你的头。一把莫辛-纳甘步枪照样能在1000米外要你的命。哪怕是今天,美国连伊朗都打不赢。

 

ganboonmeng5370
The PLA in 1950 absolutely have the best mountain troops in the world...Their soldier can endure great hardship...move fast in mountain ranges..and not afraid to die !

1950年的人民解放军绝对拥有全世界最强的山地部队。他们的士兵能吃苦耐劳,在山脉中快速机动,而且不怕死!

 

eddyg4742
The current Iran war feels somewhat similar to the Korean war.

A war against a superpower, a war that defines the future of an ancient civilisation.

当前的伊朗战争感觉有点像朝鲜战争。

那是一场对抗超级大国的战争,也是一场决定一个古老文明未来的战争。

 

alfred-vz8ti
my father-in-law fought in that war, although , he was in field intelligence, and very close-mouthed. he would admit it was damned cold. had to retire early

it should be mentioned that the pla was short of tech, but very experienced in guerrilla tactics. it should have surprised no one that the u.n. troops got a nasty surprise.

我的岳父打过那场仗,不过他是做战场情报的,口风很紧。他承认那地方冷得要命。他提前退役了

应该提到的是,解放军当时技术装备不足,但在游击战术上非常有经验。联合国军遭受了惨痛的教训,这其实谁都不该感到意外。

 

bk9699
back then China had no airplanes, rockets and cannons, only iron will and determination. Now China has high-tech weaponry, her next opponent better have iron will and determination.

那时候中国没有飞机、火箭和大炮,只有钢铁般的意志和决心。现在中国有了高科技武器,它的下一个对手最好也要有钢铁般的意志和决心。

 

 

ansunil4
I fail to understand why USA just can't mind there own business. Feed the people, why do they have to mess with everyone‘

我就不明白了,美国为什么就不能管好自己的事?养活自己的人民不行吗?为什么非要去招惹其他人?

haripadmanabhan1095
To answer your question, you have to read the Monroe Doctrine !

要回答你的问题,你得去读读门罗主义!

yuliu8875
Because there is genuine and huge profit to be made by starting wars elsewhere. Remember, the US will not start or engage in a war if it is a losing business.

因为在别处发动战争能带来丰厚的利润。记住,如果一场战争是赔本买卖,美国是不会发动或参与的。

 

byhyew
It was serious at the begng then immediately jumped to the lazy Western propaganda of ballooning Chinese casualties... And it was a volunteer army. My paternal grandparents both fought in the war. They were just graduating school, a teacher and a doctor, both desperately needed Chinese professions, and both volunteered to go to war in North Korea, because in China this was seen as yet another Japanese invasion from Korea, which had already killed 35 million Chinese in WWII. They volunteered to fight for Chinese freedom.

一开始是认真的,然后立马跳到了西方那种懒散的宣传——夸大中国伤亡数字……而且那支军队是志愿军。我的爷爷奶奶都打过那场仗。他们当时刚毕业,一个是老师,一个是医生,都是当时中国急需的职业,但他们都自愿去朝鲜打仗。因为在当时的中国人看来,这就像是日本又一次从朝鲜入侵过来,而日本在二战中已经杀死了3500万中国人。他们自愿为中国的自由而战。

annleeloveskitten1888
Salute to your grandparents and their fellow soldiers.

向你的爷爷奶奶以及他们的战友致敬。

 

mailme4432
China is amazing, from nothing to what they are today is incredible , only since 40-50 years ago and on par with US now ! The rest of the countries became behind China! Now its the same reason of why Russia DO NO want NATO at their boarder!

中国太了不起了,从一无所有到今天的成就,简直不可思议。仅仅四五十年时间,现在就跟美国平起平坐了!其他国家都被甩在了中国后面!现在,俄罗斯不想让北约出现在自己边境,也是同样的道理!

 

daymay1066
In 2026......majority of the world regard U$A as a major threat to world's peace and stability.

在2026年,世界上大多数国家都把美国视为世界和平与稳定的主要威胁。

 

LNR2023-o2y
I have given China my respect long ago.

我很久以前就对中国表达过我的敬意了。

 

HockSengNg-i7n
The Korean War have proved that the Chinese processes the strongest mountain troops in the world fighting with bare minimum with no air support, navy and ground equipment. Conclusion: never picked a fight with the Chinese in a war. They are the greatest tactical , fearless and skilful fighters we ever known. Facts

朝鲜战争已经证明,中国人拥有全世界最强的山地部队,他们是在没有空中支援、没有海军、没有地面装备、只有最低限度物资的情况下作战的。结论是:永远不要在战争中跟中国人动手。他们是我们所知的最具战术性、最无畏、最有技巧的战斗者。

 

narf0339
they even lose the trade war with china

他们连贸易战都输给了中国。

 

kkl5758
Actually China's favorite punching bag is India, Indian talks a lot and loudly but when it comes to actual fighting they runs like Olympics Champions eg. 1962 war.

其实中国最喜欢的出气筒是印度。印度人话多嗓门大,但一到真打起来,就跑得像奥运冠军一样,比如1962年的战争。

 

shiishinchiu6636
How is this a standstill when the US was forced put of the Yalu all the way to the 38th Parallel? A standstill would be the US is still at the Yalu River.

美军被从鸭绿江一路逼退到38线,这怎么还能叫僵持呢?如果美军还停留在鸭绿江边,那才叫僵持。

 

johnhiguera1370
Don't mess With China . They are a súper power now.

Unfortunately , the Monroy doctrine still applies to Latín América and other small countries . The US is a bully dictartorship . Every Impire has its end , just like the greeks , egypt , Romans , ctc .

别惹中国。他们现在是超级大国了。

不幸的是,门罗主义仍然适用于拉丁美洲和其他小国。美国是一个恶霸式的独才政权。每个帝国都有终结的时候,就像希腊人、埃及人、罗马人等等一样。

 

therealdeal2163
That is what happens when you underestimate the PRC ... Is the USA going to underestimate the Chinese again ?

这就是你低估中国的下场,美国还会再次低估中国人吗?

 

williectk7944
China is a clean winner in Korean War. China has achieved her strategic goal - to create a strategic Buffer zone by kee the foreign forces off the 38th parallel line.

中国在朝鲜战争中是彻彻底底的赢家。中国实现了它的战略目标——通过将外国军队阻挡在38线以外,建立了一个战略缓冲地带。

 

liustephen1686
Provided PVA got equipped with equitable heavy weapons and air powers as US army, US led ally troop would be long driven into the seas.

如果当时中国人民志愿军配备了与美国陆军相当的重武器和空中力量,美国领导的联军早就被赶下海了。

 

Wunderpus-photogenicus
Whether China did the right things or wrong things in the past 80 years is a meaningless debate; what China has achieved and the prosperous situation now, and especially the numbers (life expectancy improvement; literacy rates; %of people supporting current leadership; advancement and innovations in technological categories; GDP standing globally; top trading partner with almost all the countries; too many to mention here) tells the whole story. Numbers don’t lie.

中国在过去80年里做对了还是做错了,这种争论毫无意义。中国所取得的成就和现在的繁荣局面,尤其是那些数据(预期寿命的提高、识字率、支持现任领导层的人口比例、各技术领域的进步与创新、全球GDP排名、与几乎所有国家都是最大贸易伙伴——太多举不过来了),这些数据说明了一切。数据不会说谎。

 

petervan7372
hopefully next war between those 2 doesn't end who'll win who'll lose, but ends about exstence - who'll survive who's going to hell, 4 good

希望下一次这两国之间的战争,结果不是谁赢谁输,而是关乎存亡——谁会活下来,谁会下地狱,永远地。

 

orange8420
Imagine calling it meatwave when it's American incompetency ,in theory the American fire power should absolutely curb stomped the so called "meatwaves"

明明是美国无能,却还管这叫“人海战术”。按理说,美国的火力应该把所谓的“人海”打得屁滚尿流才对。

 

Bjj.noobie
I remember reading of one account of American troops finding a letter on a middle aged PLV soldier who was killed in battle. When translated, they found out that the man was a true seasoned veteran and had been fighting in continuous wars since the warlord period almost 30 years earlier.

我记得读过这样一段记述:美军在一个阵亡的中年志愿军战士身上发现了一封信。翻译后他们才发现,这个人是一名真正经验丰富的老兵,从大约30年前的军阀混战时期就一直在连续不断地打仗。

 

choysakanto6792
Bear in mind that China had no economy and is a wartorn sheethole after decades of civil war and Japanese invasion. It possessed the absolute no cap worst army in the world, two thirds don't even have small arms and the last third only had bolt action rifles and a few grenades. You'd think the Americans would easily wrap this seemingly unruly , but no. Instead they routed the 8th US Army and made it beat a hasty retreat, in essence allowing that cringe ssa country North Korea to survive to this day and threaten the world with nukes. Chinese victory in North Korea is also what scared the sheet out of the US from invading North Vietnam, allowing it to keep buttressing the Viet Cong and gain eventual victory in the end.

别忘了,当时的中国没有经济可言,经过几十年内战和日本侵略,已经是一个战火纷飞的废墟。它拥有的是全世界装备最差的军队:三分之二的人连轻武器都没有,剩下三分之一也只有栓动步枪和几颗手榴弹。然而,中国人击溃了美国第八集团军,迫使其仓皇撤退,让朝鲜得以存活到今天,并用核武器威胁世界。中国在朝鲜的胜利,也正是吓得美国不敢入侵北越的原因,这使北越得以继续支撑越共,并最终赢得了胜利。

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