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印度学者:中国已加大赌注,以 “震慑式” 的极限施压手段应对特朗普,要求美方全面让步

Whoa! According to WSJ, China has upped the ante with shock-and-awe maxmum pressure on Trump.

“Chinese have demanded a full capitulation: the removal of ALL U.S. tariffs and export-control measures ever imposed.”

Welcome to a post-American world order.

哇塞!据《华尔街日报》报道,中国已加大赌注,以 “震慑式” 的极限施压手段应对特朗普。

“中国要求美方全面让步:取消美方此前实施的所有关税及出口管制措施。”

欢迎来到后美国时代的世界秩序。

以下是各国网友的评论:

S.L. Kanthan
More from WSJ: Inside the Trump administration, many traditional China hawks have been marginalized, including Peter Navarro.

《华尔街日报》还有后续消息:在特朗普政府内部,包括彼得·纳瓦罗在内的多名老牌对华强硬派,都已被边缘化。

Xeveriano
Lol Navarro is going to be exposed as a double-agent working for china all along

哈哈,纳瓦罗怕是要被揭穿了——他压根就是一直为中国效力的双面间谍。

 

Night Owl
China manipulated trump just like trump manipulated maga cults

中国操控特朗普的手段,和特朗普操控“让美国再次伟大”的狂热追随者如出一辙。

 

MSJedits
The era of unilateral U.S. demands is over. China isn't just negotiating; it's setting the terms. This is what real multipolarity looks like.

美国单方面提要求的时代已经结束了。中国不只是在谈判,更是在制定规则。这才是真正的多极世界该有的样子。

 

zhuangcorp
Interesting that they didn't actually press for anything Taiwan related. Trump should just take the deal, live and let live. It's really not even such a big ask from the Chinese side at this point. It's really just returning to pre-2018

特朗普就该接受这个协议,各过各的日子。目前来看,中方的要求其实一点都不过分,本质上就是回到2018年之前的状态而已。

 

Kristov oleksij
I think this might have been Trumps plan and China fell into a trap , they reacted emotionally to his retarded temper tantrums and used the nuclear option and biggest ace up their sleeve. Now the entire world knows China will use exports as a weapon and everyone will Do anything they can to cut themselves off from Chinese minerals and exports. China just used what they should have kept for reclaiming Taiwan and when the time comes they’ll have nothing to threaten the West with . China did a very stupid thing long term

我觉得这可能是特朗普设的局,中国上当了。特朗普乱发脾气,让中国做出了情绪化反应,还打出了压箱底的“杀手锏”。现在全世界都知道中国会把出口当武器用,接下来各国肯定会想尽一切办法摆脱对中国矿产和出口的依赖。中国把本该留着收复台 湾时用的筹码提前用了,等真到那时候,他们就没任何能威胁西方的手段了。

 

Dree
China know trump will refuse, this conflict gonna escalated until taiwan dragged to the table.

中国知道特朗普会拒绝,这场冲突会不断升级,直到台 湾问题被摆上台面。

 

Celiyan
nope - pre 2018 is impossible unless rates go down in tandem which they won't.

不可能——回到2018年之前的状态是没戏的,除非(利率等)相关政策同步下调,但这事根本不会发生。

 

Rex Huang
I'd ask the gringos to remove all military bases in the West Pacific if they want military-use rare earth materials

要是那些美国佬想要军用稀土,我会让他们先撤走在西太平洋的所有军事基地。

 

Casey K
The markets apparently do not believe this to be true

显然,市场并不相信这是真的。

 

Oskar
USA: just focus on your internal enemy and chill the fak out

美国还是管好自己国内的问题吧,别瞎折腾了。

 

Gary Tay
Trump will never agree. It give excuses to Trump team to isolate China from the western world

特朗普绝不会同意。这会给特朗普团队提供借口,把中国和西方世界隔离开来。

 

DN
China cant be isolated from the western world. Thats a pipedream!! They manufacture so many things essential for the western world to function well. China is the 2nd largest economy and very close to the u.s which is 1st as a reminder

中国不可能被西方世界孤立,那根本就是白日做梦!西方世界要正常运转,离不开中国生产的很多必需品。提醒一下,中国是全球第二大经济体,和排名第一的美国差距已经很小了。

 

stepheneeel
is there a word in psychology to describe this when one idiot guy in life for some reason likes to go out of the way to speak for others interests?

心理学里有没有一个词,专门形容生活中那种蠢货——不知为什么总爱多管闲事,替别人出头说话?

 

sammok123
Not good enough, they should demand technology transfer of EUV from Asml. Anyway Asml will not exst without rare earth.

这还不够,他们应该要求阿斯麦(ASML)转让极紫外光刻机(EUV)技术。毕竟,没有稀土,阿斯麦根本就活不下去。

 

Martin L. Zinn
Trump need to understand that when you hold all the cards, you come from a position of strength, there’s no need or incentive to give ground. First it was Russia telling Trump, and now it’s China’s turn. the Russia–China partnership is a friendship with “no limits.”

特朗普得明白,手里握有所有筹码时,就该占据主动,根本没必要让步,也没理由让步。之前是俄罗斯对特朗普指手画脚,现在轮到中国了。而俄中伙伴关系,可是“无上限”的友谊。

 

Iskandar
The question is how the US will react to such demands. Post-American world order definitely comes with a price tag.

问题在于美国会如何回应这些要求。后美国时代的世界秩序,显然是要付出代价的。

 

Bigdog
lol.....cold day in hell before that happens

哈哈,除非太阳从西边出来,否则这事绝不可能。

 

cynical1
Trump can stick to his gun and US economy will tank quickly. Or he can fold and US economy will decline dramatically over the next couple years. He shouldn’t have kicked the panda bear!

特朗普要是硬撑不让步,美国经济会很快崩盘;要是妥协了,未来几年美国经济也会大幅衰退。他当初就不该招惹中国这只“熊猫”!

 

La Kosher Nostra
The whole world is rooting for China...no one likes a bully or a genocide enabler

全世界都在支持中国,没人喜欢霸凌者,也没人喜欢为种族灭绝站台的人。

 

We_are_the_wall
Not wise for them to escalate

他们选择升级冲突,这可不明智。

 

TT
Love it. You don't poke the Panda bear, as he kicks you in the nutz.

太解气了。别去招惹熊猫,不然它会一脚踢中你的要害。

 

Jonathan Schattke
Um, yeah... cut off your nose to spite your face. $300B isn't much for either of us. Just act rationally, stop playing tit-for-tat and drop your import duties and limits for US products.

呃,这么做简直是搬起石头砸自己的脚。3000亿美元对我们双方来说都不算多。理智点吧,别再针锋相对了,赶紧取消对美国产品的进口关税和限制。

 

zontan111
This makes sense. There is no reason at all for USA and China to be rivals. The liberal Western European countries trying to drag USA into jewkraine and Israel are the big enemies. USA should ally with BRICS and kick the jews to the curb.

这话说得在理。美国和中国根本没理由成为对手。那些自由派的西欧国家,总想把美国拖进“犹太乌克兰”和以色列的浑水,他们才是真正的大敌。美国应该和金砖国家结盟,把犹太人一脚踢开。

 

J5Soc
Yes, please. I want full access to Chinese EVs in the US.

太支持了!我希望美国能完全放开对中国电动汽车的市场准入。

 

Afterthought
Trump is a disgrace

特朗普真是个耻辱。

 

EmDe04
You cant win the game again a 5000 years old country. America should understand that they are just like a baby to China

跟一个有5000年历史的国家斗,你赢不了。美国得明白,在中国制造面前,他们就像个婴儿。

 

X man
Decouple china!

和中国脱钩!

 

Billy Mayfield
I hope they stand firm

我希望他们能立场坚定。

 

Vorenus Napolitan
You can't be this fucking dumb? The US has ALL the leverage with China and they know it. 75% of all Chinese exports go to the US. If the US stops buying Chinese goods, China implodes. You ignorant fuck

别这么蠢?美国手里握着对中国的所有筹码,这一点他们很清楚。中国75%的出口都销往美国,要是美国停止购买中国商品,中国经济就会崩溃。你这蠢货!

 

MamaDoneToldU
Most of the worlds goods come from China & a majority of Americans are too poor to buy them. The middle class has been shrinking for decades, we aren’t the super special class anymore. China can just sell to all the countries we’ve sanctioned while we go have our little recession

全世界大部分商品都产自中国,但大多数美国人穷得买不起。中产阶级几十年来一直在萎缩,我们早就不是什么“超级特殊阶层”了。中国完全可以把商品卖给所有被我们制裁的国家,而我们只能陷入小小的经济衰退。

 

Romans724
The recession you speak of is hitting globally..which would be a perfect time to unseat the dollar..if China wasn’t a paper tiger that has no economic edge to do so other than third world countries fanboying over them

你说的那场衰退正在全球蔓延,这本该是推番美元地位的绝佳时机,但中国就是个纸老虎,除了有几个第三世界国家追捧,根本没有足够的经济实力做到这一点。

 

Sankara
It’s about time they stopped playing nice.

他们早就该停止“好言好语”,强硬起来了。

 

XuAndre2
Welcome to A New World Order

欢迎来到新的世界秩序。

 

President Falcon
China will never win this.

中国绝不会赢。

 

Wei Ting
Post-American? Hardly. China can demand all it wants it still depends on American tech, markets, and dollars. The world runs on U.S. innovation

后美国时代?别扯了。中国想提什么要求都可以,但它依然依赖美国的技术、市场和美元。世界的运转靠的是美国的创新。

 

Valerie Rawlings
Malaysia Airlines MH 370 full of Chinese tech engineers who worked in the US went suddenly missing after takeoff and has never been found or explained, because US wanted to be on top. You are a traitor to your own people.

马来西亚航空MH370航班上,满是在美国工作的中国技术工程师,起飞后突然失踪,至今下落不明、原因未明——这都是因为美国想保持领先地位。你就是个背叛自己同胞的叛徒。

 

Wei Ting
Wild conspiracies about MH370 miss the point: America doesn’t need to sabotage others to stay on top. Innovation, free markets, and open competition built U.S. leadership not secrecy or sabotage. That’s what keeps the world’s best talent here.

关于MH370的离奇阴谋论都没说到点子上:美国根本不需要通过破坏别人来保持领先。美国的领先地位,是靠创新、自由市场和公平竞争建立的,不是靠秘密行动或搞破坏。正因为如此,全球最优秀的人才才会留在这儿。

 

Romans724
This has to be propaganda. We still hold the cards at this point in time according to any global trade metric.

这肯定是宣传噱头。从任何全球贸易数据来看,目前掌握主动权的依然是我们。

 

Angela
is the demand for all nations or just China?...great if it was worldwide, a power move!

这个要求是针对所有国家,还是只针对中国?要是针对全球的话就太好了,这才是显示实力的操作!

 

Josh
How is that a deal, China does not do this they have tons of measures to prevent imports of other goods into their economy so they can keep their competitive edge.

这算哪门子协议?中国才不会这么做——他们有一大堆措施限制其他国家商品进口,就是为了保住自己的竞争优势。

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