China pushes back on von der Leyen's overcapacity claims, urges EU to 'rebalance its mindset'
中国驳斥冯德莱恩的产能过剩言论,敦促欧盟“调整心态”
Bloomberg: European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen accused China of distorting trade and limiting access for European firms two weeks ahead of the summit between the economic powers. Von der Leyen said, if our partnership is to move forward, we need a genuine rebalancing, fewer market distortions, less overcapacity exported from China, and fair, reciprocal access for European businesses in China. We’re wondering if the Foreign Ministry has any comments on these remarks.
彭博社消息:欧盟委员会主席乌尔苏拉·冯德莱恩在两大经济体峰会召开前两周,指责中国扭曲贸易、限制欧洲企业准入。冯德莱恩称:“若我们的伙伴关系要向前推进,就需要真正的再平衡——减少市场扭曲,减少中国输出的过剩产能,让欧洲企业在华获得公平、对等的准入机会。” 我们想知道外交部对此有何评论。
Mao Ning: China noted the reports. The EU leader spoke highly of China’s economic and social development, especially in areas of green development and poverty alleviation. We commend that. Let me reiterate that China’s development creates opportunities, not challenges, to the EU. China is the world’s most important stabilizing force and most predictable source of certainty. We hope the EU can become a reliable and predictable partner for China as well.
On the EU’s concerns on trade, let me point out that with such huge trade volume, it is only natural that China and the EU have some differences and frictions in the process of cooperation. Over the past five decades of diplomatic relations, China-EU cooperation has kept growing. Today, the size of China-EU trade per day is as large as that of a whole year when the two sides established diplomatic ties. We hope the EU will view its trade relations with China from an all-round, more objective and positive perspective, rather than amplify differences and not talk about cooperation. What the two sides can and should do is to drive trade upward and forward in a balanced way through two-way opening up, properly manage trade frictions through dialogue and consultation, and avoid letting specific issues take up the whole picture or making every trade issue about security.
毛宁:中国注意到相关报道。欧盟领导人高度评价中国的经济社会发展,特别是在绿色发展和脱贫攻坚领域的成就,我们对此表示赞赏。
我想重申,中国的发展给欧盟带来的是机遇,而非挑战。中国是世界上最重要的稳定力量和最可预期的确定性来源。我们希望欧盟也能成为中国可靠、可预期的合作伙伴。
关于欧盟在贸易方面的关切,我想指出,中欧贸易规模巨大,在合作过程中存在一些分歧和摩擦是正常的。建交五十年来,中欧合作不断发展壮大。如今,中欧单日贸易额相当于建交时全年的贸易规模。我们希望欧盟能从更全面、客观、积极的角度看待中欧贸易关系,而不是放大分歧、不谈合作。双方能够也应该做的是,通过双向开放推动贸易平衡向上发展,通过对话协商妥善处理贸易摩擦,避免让个别问题主导全局,或将所有贸易问题都安全化。
以下是各国网友的评论:
kovichni
The eu is a sad little joke
欧盟就是个可悲的小笑话。
nycsim-r8t
And rapidly de-industrializing with under capacity
而且欧盟还在快速去工业化,产能也跟不上趟。
Justiceforall1010
That woman with blonde hair is in delusion of jealousy
那个金发女人是嫉妒了,在胡思乱想。
GameChanger-cr4hx
EU still hanging to old colonial mindset .... China has not forgotten the overcapacity of Opium in the past.
欧盟还抱着老殖民那套思想,中国可没忘当年鸦片泛滥的事。
zato-no-ichi
European want to dominate the market without competition,thats the point..western previlage,they can do that,but others can't
关键就是欧洲人想垄断市场,不想有竞争。这就是西方的特权——他们能这么干,别人就不行。
wayofvirtue1
not long and nobody wants to have anything to do with them
过不了多久,就没人愿意搭理他们了。
lellyparker
I honestly think it's more about the EU having difficulty pivoting away from the US and the US agenda. I hope they manage it.
说实话,我觉得主要是欧盟很难摆脱美国,很难不跟着美国的议程走。希望他们能做到独立自主。
AlejandroPikoulasPlata
@wayofvirtue1 EU is one of the most important market for China....that's why Chinese aren't happy about European tariffs.
欧盟是中国最重要的市场之一,所以中国才会对欧洲的关税不满。
ChrisD-y8q
Well said China
中国说得对。
dann5515
So it is ok for Chinese overcapacity buying EU's stuffs but not ok for Chinese's products in EU? What sort of maths have they learned in EU?
所以中国“产能过剩”时买欧盟的东西就行,中国产品进欧盟就不行?欧盟学的这叫什么道理?
Placid_Cat
when you think you are the superior race you don't apply the same moral framework to yourself as those you scorn. reciprocity and fairness only applies among equals.
要是觉得自己种族高人一等,就不会用评判别人的道德标准来要求自己。互惠和公平,只在平等的人之间才算数。
omegabulldog5001
Colonial mindset.
就是殖民心态。
MrMichaelmackenzie
Well said. Every country rich or poor has some form of subsidies for its homegrown industries. It's like kettle calling the pot black.
说得好。不管是富国还是穷国,都会对本土产业搞点补贴。这就好比五十步笑百步。
lellyparker
The very term "overcapacity" is meaningless. China is producing according to DEMAND. And it is the DEMAND that determines the capacity. Overcapacity means you produce more than you can sell. But China is selling it's goods just fine
“产能过剩”这说法本身就没意义。中国是按需求生产,需求多大,产能就多大。产能过剩是说生产的比卖出去的多,可中国的东西卖得好好的。
precipice65
EU's biggest problem is overdependence on US.
欧盟最大的问题是太依赖美国了。
dormungwesinie1755
You can't have balanced trade when you running around with sanctions for everything
一切都靠制裁解决,还想有平衡的贸易?不可能。
deanzaZZR
Sadly with unelected, USA first, EU second von de Leyen and Kallas in charge of EU foreign and trade policy it is going to be a tough row to plow.
可悲的是,冯德莱恩和卡拉斯都不是选出来的人,一门心思“美国优先、欧盟靠后”,还管着欧盟的外交和贸易政策,这日子难喽。
lellyparker
von de Leyen and Kallas are not in charge of the EU. Only the Commission. But the Commission is governed by the EU 27 member state leaders. They are the ones who set the political agenda for EU-China relations. Not the Commission.
冯德莱恩和卡拉斯管不了欧盟,就管个欧盟委员会。可委员会得听欧盟27国领导人的,是这些领导人定欧中关系的调子,不是委员会。
Meizhi
Very diplomatic and gentle despite the west’s anti China stance.
就算西方对中国不友好,中国回应得还是挺讲究、挺客气。
mhchong784
Vonderlyer will soon be removed from EU soon
冯德莱恩很快就得从欧盟滚蛋。
jeremiahwang9337
Just curious: does China also have an overcapacity problem with rare earth minerals? Should China significantly slow down the delivery of rare earths to Europe because China needs to slash its production capacity?
就好奇问一句:中国的稀土也产能过剩吗?是不是因为中国要减产,就得少给欧洲供稀土啊?
Aitaroes
Make China greater, Africa capable to replace the Eu market
让中国更强,让非洲能顶了欧盟市场。
Chicago-Architects
Africa will certainly become a huge market with the strength of China's development, replacing Europe and becoming another powerful regional community in the world.
有中国帮着发展,非洲肯定能成大市场,把欧洲比下去,成世界上又一个厉害的区域共同体。
minsapint80
The EU spends a huge slice of its budget on the Common Agricultural Policy. That is all subsidies
欧盟一大笔预算都花在共同农业政策上了,全是补贴。
slchoong007
Overcapacity = Our country can't compete
所谓“产能过剩”,说白了就是“我们国家没竞争力”。
tingng9569
Can't reason with unreasonable.
跟不讲理的人没什么好说的。
mimiphuc
Overcapacity, International Law, International Norms, International agreement, International rules, ... only applies to undeveloped and emerging economy countries.
“产能过剩”也好,国际法、国际准则、国际协议、国际规则也罢,好像就只管不发达国家和新兴经济体。
shiulai5804
It is grade school math
No over production, no export.
Doesn't Janet Yellen's America export? Doesn't von der Leyen's EU export?
这是小学算术都懂的理:没有过剩的产量,就没有出口。耶伦的美国不出口吗?冯德莱恩的欧盟不出口吗?
HKfanboy416
That’s fine, start to remove VW licence in China to let them fill the pain
行啊,那就吊销大众在中国的牌照,让他们尝尝疼的滋味。
Whoa-Why
yup a blockade of european car in China.. oopppss don't need to do that, european car has been in decline naturally in China.. Chinese prefer Chinese cars nowadays
对,在中国禁了欧洲车,哦,不用这么干,欧洲车在中国自己就不行了,现在中国人更喜欢国产车。
Yet
China easy to sell cheap cars because ppl get low wages
中国的便宜车好卖,是因为人们工资低。
varkeygeorge684
Europe should tear-up the old rule book and completely reconstruct a point-of-view that leads to diplomacy that in-turn leans more towards Asia and the BRICS, this is the train to catch when there is still time.
Of course this will need a rethink in how to protect the jobs and in-turn the economy.
欧洲该把老规矩扔了,彻底换换思路,外交上多往亚洲和金砖国家靠,现在上车还来得及。
当然了,这得重新琢磨怎么保住工作,进而保住经济。
yuehanslam1593
It is not only what you say but how you say it !!!! Very elegant spokesperson.
重要的不光是说什么,还有怎么说!这位发言人太得体了。
Samuelkings
Now China is speaking their language
现在中国也用他们那套逻辑说话了。
user-mhgu6om9mj2t
Karen Vonder liar cries over capacity. She had no issues when EU flooded Chinese market with ICE vehicles. Double standard.
在产能问题上瞎叫唤。当年欧盟把燃油车塞满中国市场的时候,她怎么没意见?典型的双标。
thtupid
I wonder what the next lie is when 'overcapacity' loses its steam.
等“产能过剩”这说法没人信了,不知道他们下一个瞎话编啥。
CCCC-rc9ic
Germans need to free themselves from the Weimar oktopus and restore their glory
德国人得从魏玛那种盘根错节的势力里挣脱出来,重振雄风。
bobbychen6647
Eloquently expressed and every point clearly addressed.
说得又得体又明白,每个点都说到了。
danieltan8247
smart spokeswoman
发言人很聪明。
MGZetta
West: aggressive, loud, and arrogant.
China: calm, quiet, and respectful.
Which one do you think is losing?
西方:咄咄逼人、咋咋呼呼、傲慢得很。
中国:安安静静、不慌不忙、待人尊重。
你觉得哪一方在走下坡路?
TheSUGA1202
As a Spaniard i hope that at the very least we can enhance cooperation within both countries in the near future
我是西班牙人,起码希望近期两国能多合作合作。
TK421-53
Refreshing, instead of the EU repeating US talking points. Either the EU learns to stand on its own feet again, or it will face a slow demise as a vassal of the US, prioritizing US national security, economic and other special interest over European interest. The whole purpose of the EU was to be stronger together, not to be subordinated to Washington.
总算没让欧盟跟着美国瞎嚷嚷,挺新鲜。欧盟要么重新学会自己站着,要么就只能当个美国小弟慢慢完蛋,把美国的国家安全、经济利益什么的看得比欧洲自己的还重。欧盟成立本来是为了抱团变强,不是为了听华盛顿的。
Conan415
If the China wasn’t so frugal, good at saving money, and over consuming . How would they have enough disposable income to buy so much worthless American bond traps???
If a guy you knew was 37 trillion in debt owed you money but never paid back and just kept on printing money would you keep buying anymore of his IOUs at depreciated return rates
要是中国不这么节俭、会攒钱、不过度消费,哪来那么多闲钱买美国那些没用的债券陷阱?
要是你认识个人,欠了37万亿美元,欠你的钱不还,还一个劲印钞票,你还会买他那些回报率越来越低的借据吗?
shiulai5804
INABILITY to fill market needs, as in the case of Air Bus, is NOT a virtue. It is INCOMPETENCE.
Constrained capacity keeps the prices of the products unrealistically HIGH.
It HURTS the interests of the consuming public
像空客那样满足不了市场需求,根本不是什么优点,就是没本事。限制产能只会让东西卖得死贵。这坑的是老百姓的利益。
popocucu4829
EU is a big joke
欧盟就是个大笑话。
DavidFoo-kh4ri
Decoupling,derisking,reshoring,overcapacity and the latest buzzword is trans-ship
“脱钩”“去风险”“回迁”“产能过剩”,最新的时髦词是“转口贸易”。
meimiaolin2581
Von der Leyen and Janet Yellen have the same paymasters.
冯德莱恩和耶伦的靠山是同一个。
lellyparker
They answer to the 27 heads of the EU member states.
他们得听欧盟27国领导人的。
WeAretheWorld89
They are so petty their mind cannot work out of the box.
他们心眼太小,想问题转不过弯来。
marcuslosgreat4225
Notice the words they are using stablize, predictable. Ohhhhh yall good
注意到他们用的词了吗——“稳定”“可预期”。哦,你们可真行。
Bobby-dl6tg
Ursula von der Leyen never likes China, get real, folks
大伙清醒点,乌尔苏拉·冯德莱恩从来就不待见中国。
RedEyeFish1
The is one thing for 100% sure in its 5 thousand years history.....Mongol may have try to but China has never invaded EU or USA and it never will....There is no reason to as there is plenty of other countries to deal with in the neighborhood of China already.....Let that sink in first about wars and global world dominance
中国五千年历史里,有件事100%肯定,蒙古人或许试过,但中国从没入侵过欧盟或美国,以后也不会,没必要,中国周边要打交道的国家已经够多了,先好好琢磨琢磨战争和全球霸权这回事吧。
svenjohnson2389
Yes, with US trade on the chop block, the EU may well have an oversupply of many things.
没错,美国贸易都自身难保了,欧盟很多东西很可能会供过于求。
yu-jd5jg
The days when the Imperial West Countries, in particular the Hegemonic US, can lecture the rest of the world, especially, are well over
西方帝国国家,特别是霸道的美国,对世界指手画脚的日子,早就过去了。
CrzyD-cv8xz
Wasn't it Western nations the ones who pushed for new energy industries to combat climate change? Every major industrial initiative in the world requires govt subsidies otherwise private sector sees no incentive. Is it Chinas fault for actually being successful in implementing this and being serious about it? If China didn't have over capacity to export new energy products then how can you afford them? If you can't afford them how can you gain mass adoption? If China only makes enough for its domestic consumption you will be calling it under capacity and being selfish correct?
当初不就是西方国家喊着要搞新能源产业应对气候变化吗?世界上哪个大产业项目不需要政府补贴?不然企业才没动力干呢。中国真把这事干成了,还挺认真,这难道也是中国的错?要是中国的新能源产品没多余的出口,你们买得起吗?买都买不起,怎么推广开?要是中国只生产够自己用的,你们又该说中国产能不足、太自私了,对不对?
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