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美国网友的评论:中国最新的航母福建舰首次出海

China’s newest aircraft carrier heads to sea for first time

中国最新的航空母舰首次出海

China’s newest, largest and most-advanced aircraft carrier, the Fujian, took a big step to joining the world’s largest naval fleet on Wednesday as it set out from Shanghai for its first sea trials.

The naval assessment is expected to take place in the East China Sea, about 130 kilometers (80 miles) from the Jiangnan Shipyard where the carrier has been under construction for more than six years, according to Shanghai’s Maritime Safety Administration.

周三,中国最新、最大、最先进的航空母舰福建舰驶出上海,进行首次试航,中国朝着全球最大的海军舰队的目标又迈出了一大步。

“福建舰”的排水量为8万吨,超过中国人民解放军海军的两艘现役航母—6.6万吨的“山东舰”和6万吨的“辽宁舰”,目前仅次于美国海军的航母。

“The sea trials will primarily test the reliability and stability of the aircraft carrier’s propulsion and electrical systems,” read an announcement from the state-run inhua news agency on Wednesday.

The warship was launched in 2022 and has “completed its mooring trials, outfitting work and equipment adjustments” working up to the latest sea trials, inhua said.

“此次试航主要是为了测试航母推进和电力系统的可靠性和稳定性,”官方媒体新华社周三发表的声明中表示。

新华社称,这艘航母于2022年下水,在此次试航前已”完成了系泊试验、舾装工作和设备调整”。

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以下是雅虎网友的评论:

robert h

80,000 tons vs 100,000 tons for aircraft carriers means little. What really matters is the amount and assortment of the aircraft, and how fast they can be launched, recovered, refueled, re-armed and be ready for the next launch. The U.S. Navy has more than 100 years of practice.

对于航母而言,8万吨和10万吨的差别并不大。最重要的还是在于飞机的数量和种类,以及飞机发射、降落、加油、军火补给和下一轮发射的准备速度。美国海军已经拥有超过100年的实战经验了。

 

 

DS

In today's world, aircraft carriers is a giant target for all sorts of missiles, and it can be easily spotted by a satellite or drone. So I think it really is a obsolete system, total waste of money.

在当今世界,航空母舰是各种导弹的巨大目标,很容易被卫星或无人机侦查到。所以我认为航母是一种过时的装备系统,完全就是浪费钱。

 

 

john

No, they are wonderful ships that allows us to bomb little islands and small countries that can't fight back!

不,航母是很棒的军舰,可以让我们轰炸那些无力反击的小岛和小国!

 

 

Steve

Who ya kidd'in?  The advent of our aircraft carriers and their corresponding fleets have allowed the whole world the unfettered freedom to ship and sail pretty much where they want.... to allow the world's economy to flourish from the late 1940s on!

你想骗谁呢?我们的航空母舰和配套舰队的出现让世界各国可以自由地航行,想去哪里就去哪里....让全球经济从20世纪40年代末开始蓬勃发展!

 

 

chris

Who ya kidd'in? The advent of our aircraft carriers and their corresponding fleets have allowed big business to manufacture over seas and increase profits in their own pockets and create all these billionaire oligarchs.  As soon as it's not profitable for them it's over.

你又在骗谁呢?我们的航空母舰和配套舰队的出现,只是让大企业在海外展开生产活动,增加自己的利润,创造出这些亿万富翁寡头集团。只要他们觉得无利可图,一切也就结束了。

 

 

OMG

You don't need a $100B ship to fight pirates.

你们根本就不需要用一艘价值1000亿美元的船来打击海盗。

 

 

D

It is actually incredibly difficult to track a carrier in mid ocean with satellites.  

实际上,想用卫星追踪大洋中的航母,非常非常困难。

 

 

Steve

We don't hide our fleets from anyone!  In fact, we tell them we're coming!  

我们不会向任何人隐瞒我们的舰队!事实上,我们要告诉他们我们来了!

 

 

evereachyu

Fujian is 80000 metric ton, the US carriers were 100000 short ton. You need to find out the difference.

福建舰的排水量是80000公吨,美国航母的排水量是100000短吨。你得承认两者存在区别。

 

 

M

The US has offensive forces, while China has defensive forces.  It wouldn't be much effective when they operate far overseas, but would be very effective when they operate closer to their shore along with those airfields on land.  It isn't easy for the US to operate over there half the world away.

美国拥有进攻的实力,而中国拥有防守的实力。如果他们在海上远距离发起进攻,效果不会太理想,但如果他们在靠近海岸和陆地上的机场行动,效果就会非常好。对美国来说,要在半个地球以外的地方开展行动,并非易事。

 

 

Brendan

Over 100 years of practice yet we lost to cave dwellers of Afghanistan and Vietnam... Lol

我们是有100多年的实战经验,但我们还是败给了阿富汗和越南的山顶洞人…哈哈

 

 

Kirk

Not true. The Taliban were defeated so were the Vietnamese. The US wins military battles. Political objectives tied to exportation of Democracy is where we fail. The issue is nation building. Look at Korea, Vietnam, and more recently Iraq and Afghanistan.

你说错了。塔利班就被我们打败了,越南人也被我们打败了。美国赢得了军事战斗。我们只是没能成功实现与皿煮输出相关的政治目标。我们的问题在于国家建设。看看韩国、越南,以及最近的伊拉克和阿富汗。

 

 

WRC

"soundly won"?? why don't you pick someone with similar size next time for a change?

“大胜”? ?

下次换换口味吧,你干嘛不挑个实力差不多的来比比呢?

 

 

Jesse

We have the biggest military in the world, the only adversaries that come even close is Russia and China. Russia is having trouble beating a nation half it's size, and China hasn't been in a major conflict in some time

我们拥有全世界规模最大的军队,唯一接近的对手就是俄罗斯和中国。俄罗斯连只有它一半大小的国家都搞不定,中国也已经很长时间没有参与过重大冲突了

 

 

J.P.Satanaz

As always the mentality of tribal worriers is like this...Mine is bigger than yours.....

这就是部落里那些杞人忧天的人的心态……我的东西比你的大.....

 

 

Tonms

WRONG!  Vietnam yes.  Afghanistan no.  We wiped the Taliban and nailed the leadership including Osama bin Ladin.

你说了!我们是打赢了越南人,但我们并没有打赢阿富汗人。我们只是消灭了塔利班,锁定了包括奥萨马·本·拉登在内的领导层。

 

 

Tonms

Just one more thing. Who do you think now does a banner business with Vietnam and is welcomed with open arms? It's not Moscow.  Except for the tragic, useless loss of life over there during the war both nations actually came out of it scarred,  but better relations ensued and we both are better off...

还有一点。你觉得现在谁在跟越南进行密切的生意往来,还受到了他们的欢迎?不是莫斯科。除了战争期间无谓悲惨的人员伤亡,停战时双方其实都已经伤痕累累了,但随后两国关系有所改善,我们也都得到了恢复…

 

 

richard

Benjiman Franklin was right:  Politics makes etc etc...

本杰明·富兰克林是对的:政治决定了一切……

 

 

OMG

Yet they still haven't figure out how to build a reliable electric catapult system.

但他们至今还没有弄清楚该如何打造一个可靠的电动弹射系统。

 

 

Tonms

What do you think this one is?  

你觉得这个是什么?

 

 

OMG

This one is a more reliable and more efficient DC system.

这是一个更可靠,更高效的DC系统。

 

 

Kevin

20k tons means a lot.  But already the chinese ship is slower..  less aircraft.. needs refuling is a big one.  And as you said less experience

2万吨的差别很大。但中国航母时速更慢…飞机更少。燃料补充也是一个很大的问题。还有像你所说的,经验也少。

 

 

Rob

Who needs practice when you can just steal all the data or bribe a disgruntled employee with top security clearance.

如果你可以窃取所有数据、或者贿赂一个拥有最高安全权限的员工时,谁还需要练习呢。

 

 

Nick

The lack of experience is a big factor in my opinion. Working on the deck of an aircraft carrier is very dangerous, and the Chinese traditionally have not been big sticklers for following rules. I wonder how many sailors they’re going to lose while perfecting operations!

在我看来,经验不足是一个很大的问题。在航空母舰的甲板上工作是非常危险的,中国人历来不太遵守规则。我很好奇他们在操作训练时会失去多少海员!

 

 

M

I agreed with you.  However, China has defensive forces, while the US has offensive forces.  Unlike the US, they don't venture far overseas.  It would be very effective use along with their on shore land fields.  The US, however, is venturing half the world away wouldn't have much advantages on this...

我同意你的看法。不过,中国有防守实力,美国有进攻实力。中国和美国不同,他们不会出海冒险。他们会非常高效地利用他们的海岸陆地。但美国一直在地球另一端冒险,在这方面的优势也不太明显……

 

 

Tony Skala

Trust me... they can replace sailors at a rate of 10 times we can with no or little issue.

相信我……他们换海员的速度比我们快10倍,不会或几乎不会遇到问题。

 

 

Jeff

They have been training and practice with their first two aircraft carriers since 2012 with no sailors lost.

自2012年以来,他们一直在前两艘航空母舰上训练和练习,没有海员牺牲。

 

 

Nick

They haven’t “publicized”the fact that sailors have been killed. The flight deck is extremely dangerous, and the Americans have lost people over the years and I’m betting that so have the Chinese.

他们只是没有“公开”过海员牺牲的事实。飞行甲板是极其危险的,多年来美国人也有一些海员牺牲,我打赌中国也一样。

 

 

48 Stars

The Chinese haven't fought in a major conflict since WWII.  The US has been in numberous wars in the same period of time.  Our command and communication is superb, our military members experienced, and yeah, we are the US.  We have 11 aircraft carriers with more on the way.  

自二战以来,中国人还没有参加过重大军事冲突。但美国这些年经历了许多战争。我们的指挥和通讯水平是一流的,我们的军事人员经验丰富,没错,我们可是美国啊。我们有11艘航空母舰,未来还会有更多航母。

 

 

Fann

The US Navy has not fought a fleet-on-fleet battle since WWII either. Navy engagement in Korea, Vietnam and the Middle East is hardly comparable to a potential showdown with the PLAN.

自二战以来,美国海军也没有参加过舰队对舰队的战斗。海军在韩国、越南和中东的行动很难和跟中国军队的决战相提并论。

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