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中国会不会比美国更发达

Is China ever going to be more advanced than America?

中国会不会比美国更发达?

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KokHin Lim

Hel Humanity (2017–present)Author has 4.2K answers and 3.9M answer viewsApr 19

In many way it already it. Take money, a good 90% of Chinese do not carry cash or credit anymore, the just bring their smart phone to pay using digital money. In US digital money usage is less than 1%.

On transportation China's high speed rail covers closed to 130 thousand miles, US has one line less than 100 miles uncompleted after 20 years. Today China high speed rail is more than the entire world put together.

在很多领域中国已经比美国发达了了。拿钱来说,90%的中国人不再随身携带现金或信用卡,他们只需要携带智能手机,用数字货币进行支付。但在美国,数字货币的使用率还不到1%。

在交通方面,中国高铁总长已近13万英里,而美国只有一条花了20年时间都没修完的不到100英里的轨道。今天,中国的高铁比全世界高铁加起来还要长。

Little does one knows in 2021 ultimate measure of development, the Chinese life expectancy exceeded the US at 77.7 years old versus 77.0 years old in the US. Most of all public vehicle has turned into electricity yet most in US are still pouring out polution.

Today over a million are homeless and lives in tents throughout most suburbs in the US, there are zero homeless in China a nation with 4 times the population! China provides universal healthcare, US has a third of its people needing health care without health care insurance!

I can go on and on but stop fooling yourself US in reality is a borderline poor nation today.

很少有人知道,在2021年的发展指标中,中国人的平均预期寿命达到77.7岁,超过了美国的77.0岁。大多数公共汽车都换成电动车,但美国的大多数汽车仍在排放污染。

今天,在美国大部分郊区都能看到无家可归的人,总数超过100万人,他们只能蜗居在帐篷中。中国的人口数量是美国的4倍,但街上看不到无家可归的人!中国提供全民医保,而美国有三分之一需要就医的人却没有医保!

这样的事实还有不少,别再自欺欺人了,美国其实已经是一个濒于贫困的国家。

 

 

Robert Vannrox

Lives in Zhuhai, Guangdong, China (1989–present)Author has 318 answers and 591.7K answer viewsSep 18

China is more advanced than the United States. Let’s consider some “measurables”.

中国已经比美国更发达了。看看下面这些方面吧:

Currency

USA = Paper money and coins.

China = Totally cashless. Been that way for nearly a decade now.

美国=纸币、硬币

中国=完全无现金化。而且10年前就开始了。

Mass Transit - Trains

USA = Lumbering, slow, antiquated Amtrak, Dilapidated stations.

China = High Speed trains, clean modern stations.

公共交通-列车

美国=美国铁路公司粗笨、低速、老古董的列车以及破败不堪的车站

中国=高铁,干净摩登的车站

Mass Transit - Busses

USA = Mostly still running diesel, or natural gas.

China = 100% quiet electric.

公共交通-公交车

美国=基本上都是汽油车,或天然气车

中国=100%安静的电动车

Mass Transit - Subways

USA = Aside from 1 or 2 Chinese built systems, mostly very old.

China = Everywhere, new, clean, efficient, modern.

公共交通-地铁

美国=除了1-2条中国建设的线路,大多都非常破旧了

中国=所有城市的地铁都崭新、干净、高效、摩登。

Behavior control

USA = everywhere; a need for police and guns.

行为管理

美国=需要警察和枪支

Wifi

USA = 4G renamed “5G” for political reasons. For profit. You must pay to use.

China = Actual 5G.

无线网络

美国=出于政治原因,将4G直接改名5G。为了盈利,要求用户付费使用。

中国= 如假包换的5G。

Inflation

USA = High and on the rise.

China = Controlled and effectively zero.

通货膨胀

美国=通货膨胀高,而且还在持续升高

中国=政府管控得力,0通胀

Homes

USA = Huge McMansions, wooden frame with particle board facing.

China = Smaller; cement homes of glass, metal with stone facing.

住宅

美国= 大房子,木质框架加刨花板外立面

中国= 房子较小,水泥加玻璃、金属,石材外立面

Taxes

USA = All taxes, fees, state, local and federal from 45% to 85% (depending on location, occupation)

China = Everything included, from 0% to 25% (depending on income amount)

美国=州/市/联邦所有的税、费可达收入的45%-85%(根据居住地和职业而定)

EV infrastructure

USA = Patchy.

China = Fully integrated everywhere.

电动车配套设施

美国=零零星星

中国=星罗棋布,十分完善

I could go on and on, but the only way that you can compare one nation to the other is to physically go to the nations and compare on terms that you use daily. “Armchair experts” like to sit in tiny rooms in front of glowing monitor screens looking at stats and not taking into account what it is like for THEM to live in one place or the other.

我觉得还有很多可以列出来对比的,但要对比两个国家,唯一的办法就是亲自去这两个国家走走看看,用日常生活的方方面面作比较。“砖家们”喜欢坐在小房间里,盯着发光的显示器屏幕查看数据,完全不考虑在某地生活的实际情形。

I lived in the USA for 40 years. Then lived in China for over 20 years.

So I compare using the measurables that matter to me personally. Such as eating, friends, ease of getting things done, and all the rest. So when I see a question like yours I try to answer it in terms that I use. Let’s consider some other measurables.

我在美国生活了40年,又在中国生活了20多年。

所以我会用我自己关心的事来对比。比如吃饭、交朋友、做事难易度等等。所以当我看到你这种问题时,我会尽量用我的个人体会来回答。我们再来看看其他方面。

Guns

USA = Widely Available, both legal and illegal.

China = Restricted. No exceptions.

枪支

美国=无论是否合法,都很容易购买

中国=严格管制。没有特例。

School

USA = Free. Colleges are pricey and cost money.

China = Free. Private schools are available, Colleges are cheap.

学校

美国=免费。大学学费很贵。

中国=免费。有私立学校,大学学费便宜。

Parks

USA = Park creation pretty much ended in the 1950s.

China = Constantly reclaiming land, carving out new parks everywhere.

公园

美国 = 公园大多是1950年代修建的。

中国 = 各地都在不断拿地修建新公园。

Bridges

USA = Old and need of repair

China = New, well made and stunning.

桥梁

美国=年代久远,需要修缮

中国=崭新精良,令人惊叹

Breakfasts

USA = Mostly sweet foods with coffee

China = Typically steamed foods with doujiang (sweet soybean drink)

早餐

美国=大多是咖啡配甜食

中国=传统中式早餐是豆浆(甜的大豆饮料)配蒸制食品

Lunches

USA = Fast food

China = Typically noodles, or cafeteria fare. Prices usually under $2.

午餐

美国=快餐

中国=传统中式午餐有面条或自助餐,通常花费不到2美金。

Drinking alcohol

USA = Mostly beer, and limited to those in their 20s & 30s

China = Culturally important. 53% Hard grain “moonshine” is typical for everyone.

喝酒

美国=大多是啤酒,20-30岁的人喝

中国=酒文化很重要。人们喜欢53度的白酒。

Smoking cigarettes

USA = Banned in most places and expensive.

China = Cheap and everywhere

抽烟

美国=多数地方都禁烟,香烟价格很贵

中国=便宜,随处可见

Smoking marijuana

USA = common

China = banned and will result in serious prison time.

大麻

美国=很寻常

中国=严禁大麻吸食,否则会有牢狱之灾

Felons

USA = Difficulty in reintegrating into society after prison.

重犯

美国=出狱后很难融入社会

Weekends

USA = Mow lawns, watch television.

China = Go out with friends. Visit malls. KTV. Visit parks. Hobbies.

周末

美国=修剪草坪,看电视

中国=跟朋友聚会,逛街,唱歌,逛公园,发展兴趣爱好

Residential areas

USA = Quiet, quiet, quiet suburbs.

China = People out and about, great social interaction and dancing in open areas.

居民区

美国=安静,宁静,寂静的郊区

中国=人来人往,社交热络,还会在户外空地跳广场舞

So, these differences are such that it is better for an average guy or family to live in China, compared to the USA. It’s cheaper, easier, cleaner and nicer than the United States is. Would this be considered more “advanced”? Well, I think so.

I welcome you all to come to China and then go to the United States and compare for yourself.

所以这些不同之处让普通人或普通家庭在中国的生活过得比美国好。因为在中国生活更省钱、更方便、更干净、更美好。你觉得这是不是更“发达”?嗯,我想是的。

欢迎你们来中国看看,再去美国瞧瞧,自己做做比较。

 

Nathan James

Geopolitical pundit and blogger.Author has 8.2K answers and 25.9M answer viewsMar 18

In many respects, China is already more advanced than America…

China has a far more advanced public health system. This is why China has 4,636 Covid deaths and America has 996,072 Covid deaths, as of March 17, 2022.

China’s per capita death rate due to Covid is 3 per one million population, while America’s per capita rate is a staggering 2,979 !!!

在许多方面,中国已经比美国更发达了…

中国的公共卫生体系要比美国发达得多。这就是为什么截至2022年3月17日,中国只有4636例新冠肺炎死亡,而美国已有996072例新冠肺炎死亡。

中国新冠肺炎的人均死亡率是百万分之三,而美国的人均死亡率则达到惊人的百万分之2979!!!

China has a far more advanced national infrastructure of roads, bridges, high-speed rail, airports, etc.

China has a far more advanced 5G technology and roll-out.

China has a far more advanced mobile payment system with things like Alipay and WeChat Pay.

中国的道路、桥梁、高铁、机场等基础设施要先进得多。

中国拥有更先进的5G技术,已经推出。

中国拥有更先进的移动支付系统,包括支付宝和微信支付。

China was the first, and only, country to land on the dark side of the moon, a most remarkable achievement. China’s new space station will replace America’s ISS around 2030 (it’s due to be decommissioned).

China has the most advanced system in the world. According to Latana’s Perception Index 2021, the Chinese believe they have plenty of de ocracy, while the Americans, not so much!

In fact, China’s political system gets the highest marks in the world, according to the Edelman Trust Barometer, as well as a study by Ash Center at Harvard Kennedy School

中国是第一个也是唯一一个登上月球暗面的国家,这是一个非常了不起的成就。到2030年前后,中国的新空间站将取代美国的国际空间站(美国空间站将退役)。

中国有世界上最先进的制度。根据拉塔纳2021的认知指数,中国人相信他们享受到了充分的皿煮,而美国人其实并没有那么多!

事实上,根据爱德曼信托晴雨表以及哈佛肯尼迪学院亚什中心的一项研究,中国的政治制度得分排名全球第一。

Note that USA and UK are far behind with 39% and 42%, respectively.

America, known as the beacon of de ocracy, actually has a totally shit government:

Remember Donald Trump and the January 6 Capitol Hill riots?

China is more advanced than America in AI, robotics, quantum computing, Thorium nuclear reactor development, infrastructure engineering, hypersonic missile technology, etc.

China is more advanced on the diplomatic and peace-kee front. Since 1979, China has not fought a single war, whereas America has fought in Afghanistan, Bosnia, El Salvador, Grenada, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Lebanon, Libya, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Panama, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Yemen, etc.

请注意,美国和英国的分数远远落后,仅为39%和42%。

被称为灯塔的美国,其实拥有一个糟糕无序的政府:

还记得唐纳德·特朗普和1月6日的国会山骚乱吗?

中国在人工智能、机器人技术、量子计算、钍核反应堆开发、基础设施建设、高超音速导弹技术等方面都比美国要更为先进。

中国在外交与和平方面的表现也更为优秀。1979年之后中国没有打过一场战争,而美国先后在阿富汗、波斯尼亚、萨尔瓦多、格林纳达、伊朗、伊拉克、科威特、黎巴嫩、利比亚、尼加拉瓜、巴基斯坦、巴拿马、索马里、苏丹、叙利亚、也门等地引发过战争。

China is pursuing diplomacy throughout the Middle East rather than bombing the shit out of the region. Recently, it signed a 25-year cooperation deal with Iran.

China is negotiating with the Taliban for the future of Afghanistan instead of invading and occupying the country for 20 years.

China is leading the ASEAN countries in peaceful trade through RCEP, the world’s largest free trade bloc.

China is hel countries in the Global South, as well as in Europe, build their infrastructure through the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI). Over 142 countries have already signed up and more than half of them have thousands of BRI projects under way. Just a few weeks ago, Argentina signed up for BRI!

中国正在整个中东地区和平外交,而不是像美国那般狂轰滥炸。最近,中国和伊朗签署了一项为期25年的合作协议。

中国与塔利班谈判阿富汗的未来发展,没有像美国那样侵略和占领阿富汗长达20年时间。

中国通过全球最大的自由贸易集团RCEP领导东盟国家进行和平贸易。

中国通过“一带一路”帮助南半球国家和欧洲国家建设基础设施。

已经有142多个国家跟中国签署了协议,其中一半以上的国家目前正在进行的一带一路建设项目多达数千个。就在几周前,阿根廷也签字加入了一带一路!

China has made lots of friends as countries in Latin America, Africa, Middle East, Central Asia, and Southeast Asia are very grateful for China’s infrastructure assistance.

China is hel countries in the Global South vaccinate their populations as the rich Western nations abandoned them through vaccine hoarding.

China is inviting all nations to participate in its space station program, including the United States. Recall that USA banned China from the ISS.

America is more advanced than China in other ways, but I’d say, on balance, China is more advanced than America.

中国广交朋友,拉丁美洲、非洲、中东、中亚和东南亚国家都非常感谢中国对本国基础设施的援助。

中国帮助南半球国家为本国公民接种疫苗,而富裕的西方国家囤积疫苗,置他们的安危于不顾。

中国还邀请包括美国在内的所有国家参与其空间站项目。还记得吗?美国曾经拒绝中国进入国际空间站。

美国在其他方面确实比中国更先进,但总体而言,中国比美国更先进。

 

James Chrisholm

Interested in ChinaAuthor has 748 answers and 1.3M answer viewsMar 20

Yes it will be. It has always been for the last 4900 years. Even at its weakest I.e. 120 years ago, during the Qing dynasty, it was still 30% of the global economy.

It is a culture, proven time and again to be able to flourish. It was the workshop of the world, producing silk, porcelain, carpentry, handicraft and tea. It had the most advanced technologies before the Industrial Age. Many of the ideas are still being used today. It flourished based on the principles of agricultural industry and trade. Today, it is back on the roll as the manufacturing hub of the world. Tomorrow, it will the idea leader of the world because only wealth can breed culture and needs which in turn pushes science and technology.

是的,这是肯定的。过去的4900年间,中国一直如此。即使是在120年前的清朝时期,中国的经济规模仍占到世界经济的30%。

中国文化一次又一次证明了自己蓬勃发展的潜力。中国历史上就是世界工厂,生产丝绸、瓷器、木工、手工艺品和茶叶。工业时代之前,中国拥有最先进的生产技术。很多巧思至今仍被现代人沿用。在农业和贸易的基础上,中国蓬勃发展。今天,中国重新成为世界制造中心。未来,中国还将成为全世界的思想领袖,因为只有财富才能孕育文化和需求,而文化和需求反过来又将推动科学技术的发展。

Can it tolerate other great powers? Yes! It tolerated India, Romans and Persians. Can it handle beliefs? Yes, it has hosted many beliefs even today.

Can it handle debates and ideas? Yes, Chinese Quorans have been very vocal.

Does it have enough ? Very much so. Pre-Covid saw more tourists going out of China than there are population in many countries. Something to the tune of 140 million per annum. In fact most Chinese Expats are going home because the turf is getting greener and more stable.

中国能包容其他大国吗?是的,历史上中国就包容了印度、罗马人和波斯人。中国支持信仰吗?是的,时至今日中国都支持许多信仰。

中国支持辩论和观点吗?是的,Quora上中国用户的声音就很响亮。

疫情爆发前,中国出境游客数量超过了许多国家的人口数量,每年达到1.4亿人次。事实上,大多数华人正在回流中国,因为中国的的草皮越来越绿,越来越稳定。

The Chinese society has grown leaps and bounds esp over the last 10 years. They have done incredible feats like bringing 800 million people out of abject poverty, promising food and cloths and housing, education and health care. They have gone 5G, already on cashless payments, gone to digital yuan. Building cities for 14 million people annually. Knocking on the pinnacle of technology such as jet engines, silicon chips and fusion energy, up and coming space power. The recent Winter Olympics had shown that their robots can cook any cuisine that the athletes needed.

中国社会发展突飞猛进,特别是在过去这十年。他们实现令人难以置信的成就,比如他们让8亿人摆脱了赤贫,提供了食品、衣物、住房、教育和医疗保健。他们已经开始使用5G,实现无现金支付,用数字人民币代替。每年为1400万人扩建城市。在喷气发动机、硅芯片和聚变能源、新兴太空动力等前沿技术领域取得了重大突破。在最近的冬奥会期间,就出现了可以为运动员烹饪菜肴的中国机器人。

Why was it poor, wretched and backward in the past? It had 100 years of humiliation. A global power once more glorious than USA, tumbled after more than 70 years of civil wars, semi-colonised, Opium, famines, warlordism, Sino-Japanese wars of 14 years, civil war, the Korean War, Sanctions, withdrawal of Soviet support, Border wars with India, Vietnam war which saw Western technological embargo until today. Illiteracy was 85% and literacy for children is more than 90% today. It achieved much with little. What more can it achieve with much, tomorrow?

为什么中国曾经那么贫穷、悲惨、落后?因为中国经历了一段百年屈辱。这个曾经比美国更辉煌的全球大国,先后经历了70多年的内战、沦为半殖民地、鸦片泛滥、饥荒肆虐、军阀主义、14年抗日战争、朝鲜战争、西方制裁、苏联撤回援助、中印边境战争、越南战争,直到今天,西方的科技禁令才结束。中国从文盲率达85%变成儿童识字率超过90%。中国用很短的时间,在很弱的基础上取得了很大的成就。未来中国用更多的时间、技术和资源,将能取得怎样伟大的成就!

 

 

Johnny Poulos

Lives in Sydney, AustraliaAuthor has 2.1K answers and 513.1K answer viewsUpdated May 24

She not going to be, she already is, more advanced in many areas. America's infrastructures are decaying, her economy is stagnating, she wastes trillions of dollars prop up the Military Industrial Complex instead of this money going into more socially useful endeavours; manufacturing sent abroad and so much more.

不会的,因为事实上中国已经在许多领域超过美国了。美国的基础设施正在崩溃,经济停滞不前,豪掷数万亿美元扶持军工业,没有把这些钱用在对社会更有益的地方;制造业大量外流到国外,这样的事太多了。中国怎么可能赶不上美国呢。

 

Chiang Seng Erh

Studied at Electrical and Electronics EngineeringAuthor has 625 answers and 190.3K answer viewsJul 2

What is your concern about that?

You can always claim USA still is and will still be the most advance in the world. This meaningless title is not the objective of China’s own development. China will just keep on progressing for themselves. You, can have that title forever.

你在担心什么呢?

你大可以说美国现在依然是,将来也依然是世界上最先进的国家。这个毫无意义的标题并不是中国发展的目标。中国将继续为了自己国家的发展大步向前。你们那么喜欢这个称号,那就拿着吧。

If you can put in effort to benefit all mankind, that title will naturally come to you with proper respect. That has to be earned and is NEVER achievable with bombing, killing, invading, occupying and manipulating others.

如果你能努力造福全人类,那么这个头衔自然会给你带来应有的尊重。如果你只会轰炸、杀戮、入侵、占领和操纵他国,永远无法赢得别人的尊重。

 

 

Cy Wg

Aug 24

Whether a country is advanced depends on the living standards of the residents and the level of science and technology in the country; however, the fundamental task of all science and technology is to serve the daily life of the people; otherwise, technology will lose its meaning; is this right? Then, please look at the United States The street scene of Philadelphia, look at the homeless everywhere in the United States, look at the street gunfights everywhere in the United States, look at the average life expectancy of Americans is so low, look at the number of deaths caused by new coronary pneumonia in the United States, look at the streets full of of obese people, look at the serious racial antagonism in the United States;

一个国家先进与否,取决于该国居民的生活水平和科技水平;但是,所有科技的根本任务是为人民的日常生活服务;否则,科技将失去意义,对吗?你们去看看美国费城街头的景象吧,看看美国各地无家可归的可怜人,看看美国无处不在的街头枪战,看看美国人的平均预期寿命如此之低,看看美国冠脉肺炎导致的最新死亡人数,看看街上随处可见的肥胖者,看看美国严重的种族对抗;

Look at the US military waging wars around the world, indiscriminate bombing killing tens of millions of innocent civilians, why do they need to wage these wars;

Do you think overtaking America is an honorable event?

看看美国军队在世界各地发动的冷酷战争,杀害了数千万无辜平民的狂轰滥炸,他们为什么一定得发动这些战争;

现在你还觉得超越美国是什么体面荣耀的事吗

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