F-22 vs J-20 | Thunderbird Fighter Pilot Reacts
F-22 vs 歼-20 ，雷鸟战机飞行员反应
As a retired flight instructor and fighter pilot, these new generation pilots are ls and bounds ahead of the training offered/received in the past (at least by the CAF). In today's world, I would have zero clue how to train a pilot on these incredibly advanced fighters effectively.
The most zing thing about the F-22 is that the design phase began in the 80’s and the competition’s modern planes are still playing catch-up.
Personally, I prefer the YF-23 airframe
As an USAF vet (early 80s), I've always loved the F-15. When they rolled out the F-22, I thought it as a nice replacement for the F-15. Of course, when I saw pix & video of the XF-23, I wondered why it was not chosen. I'm hearing that the 6th Gen is more like the XF-23.
I absolutely love watching the F-22. The way it moves and turrns is beautiful, it's also the most aesthetically pleasing designs IMO
J-20 seems to fit perfectly with what the Chinese need: a stealthy, 'missile-truck' with a large fuel load that can reach out over large distances of ocean (the U.S.) or inland (russian boarder).
The F22 is my favorite fighter. The F16 is a close second, because it just has that endearing elegant design. To this day, the F22 looks futuristic even though it came out in the 90s. It just goes to show how far ahead US military technology is. We didnt know the F22 even ested until it had already been flying for years. I'm willing to bet we have a 6th gen fighter that blows everything we know about today out of the water.
That being said, the F22 is such a clean and sexy design. It will remain a favorite long after its retired.
Reminds me of a story I heard from a flt engineer. When nato captured some old migs, like from the Korean and Vietnam era, they weren't sure why they had these holes cut into the front of the air intakes. They couldn't prove those were contributing anything to aerodynamics. Years later, they found out from a defector, the holes were cut there to allow cables to be attached so oxen can pull the jet to the runway. Since they didn't have fancy aircraft towing vehicles, the cows worked fine!
Speaking as a former crew chief all I can say when seeing the 22 do those maneuvers is "there's going to be a lot of maintenance to do when it lands." Lol
Those jets look incredible! Like something out of a sci-fi movie!
If I was to choose an air superiority fighter I'd probably pick F22.
I live 1.5 miles south of the Langley AFB runway midpoint. I see Raptors fly over my house almost daily. I love that aircraft and those who not only fly them, but also those who work hard to keep them in the air.
China has been testing its new engine on J-20 lately. There was a footage of J-20 flying with different engines on each side, and the new one is visually longer than the old one. The current engine is serving a transitional purpose as they have decided to go with native ones at the begng.
The raptors ability to just throw itself into a flat s and come out whenever it wants is crazy
Judging by the size alone the J-20 comes across more as a long range Interceptor. Similar to the late F-14. But none of its capabilities.
The F-22 with a smaller airframe usually relates a greater turning capacity.
They're all zing machines. I think it all comes down to the driver.
Pretty much the only advantage the newer F-22 knockoffs have over a actual F-22 is that they have helmet sights and IRST. The F-22's may well get retired before they ever get those upgrades. Other than that, the 20 year old F-22's are a much more refined product that were made to be an exact fit to a specific function, that function being a heavily networked, super stealthy air superiority fighter. The knock offs just can't compete.
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The J20 was design with domestic build engine in mind, but unfortunately China‘s jet engine development could not keep up with the aircraft development, and even now the domestic engined J11/J15/J16 still had some little issue compared to Russia AF 31. So the initial J20 use AF31 instead
The most important aspect of any military jet is that it must look good. And J20 looks good.
I was not aware of the J- 20 at all so I enjoyed learning about it, what struck me is that both the F- 22 & J- 20 are massive aircrafts but due to some reason the J-20 just doesn't have that visually pleasing appeal ( given that they are to be used as wons & not in airshows ) but F-22 looks so elegant when its flying.
The F22 is being mothballed without ever engaging in an air to air combat. The US military hasn't engaged in a peer adversary with an air force since maybe the 90s and generally the US is quick to take command of the skies.
If they are comparable in physical performance, then I’d say the smartness of software and computational power of J20 is likely much better than the 20 years older F22. China is good at Radar too, and 20 years is a huge gap in Radar technology too. Physics has not changed much for 20 years, but ronics has. Just look at the chips used in smart phones and the apps.
at this point i think f22 was designed in a "peace" time, so it was restricted in certain ways, to make it more survivable. though is still a better plane.
Regarding larger wons bay and range in the J-20: the plane is much larger than the F-22, so of course it would have larger wons bays and range.
Ultimately it comes down to pilot training. Technology is only as good as those who can use it to the mamum ability.
As far as I'm aware according Chinese sources, the J20 was designed to equip the WS15 engine (basically China's gen 5 engine). Although the Russian AL31 was used on some J20 prototypes, the production J20s also never actually used Russian engines and instead used the WS10B as an interim option before WS15 goes into service.
At current time, we might see a chance they meet, then we’ll know but then again, pilot experience is a huge factor…the fact that US has been invaded dozen of countries for years, their pilots are very well trained