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90后棋手丁立人创历史,中国棋手首度加冕国象世界棋王

Underwhelming reaction from China after Ding's historical win

丁立人夺国象世界棋王,获得历史性的胜利

After Ding's historical win against Russian Gm Ian Nepomniachtchi and becoming the first Chinese player to win the World Chess Champion, it is logical to assume that Chinese chess lovers are celebrating this victory. However, this event fails to receive any attention in China.

在丁立人历史性地战胜俄罗斯棋手涅波姆尼亚奇(Ian Nepomniachtchi,成为首位获得世界象棋冠军的中国棋手之后,不难想象中国象棋爱好者正在庆祝这场胜利。然而,这一事件在中国并没有引起多大关注。

Across Chinese social media apps, all posts relating to Ding averages around 10 likes and 1 comment, which is incredibly underwhelming considering the caliber of the tournament. Meanwhile, the topic #丁立人夺国象世界棋王, which translate to #Ding Liren crowned the world champion, received 0 reads and discussions.

在中国的社交媒体应用中,所有与丁有关的帖子平均只有10个赞和1条评论,考虑到比赛的水平,这一数字令人难以置信地冷淡。与此同时,#丁立人加冕世界冠军#这个话题的阅读量和讨论量都为0。

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以下是美国reddit网民的评论:

Mindless_Grass_2531

Chess is just not that popular in China. Imagine an American wins a major Go tournament, the reaction will be even more underwhelming

国际象棋在中国并不那么受欢迎。想象一下,一个美国人赢得了一场重要的围棋比赛,人们的反应会更加冷淡

5DSpence

This exactly. Probably like .001% of Americans were aware when, for the first time, an American reached 9 dan, the highest rank in go (very roughly the equivalent of the GM title).

没错。大概有0.001%的美国人知道,一个美国人达到了围棋的最高等级9段位(大致相当于GM)。

 

stringsandthings3

One of my best friends is Chinese and she told me she had never heard of him but saw him on Chinese social media last night...I know that's anecdotal but she made it sound like it was a significant news story.

我有一个最好的朋友是中国人,她告诉我她从未听说过这个人,但昨晚在中国的社交媒体上看到了他…我知道这是传闻,但她说得好像这是个重大新闻。

 

vics80

Ding is a man for the world, not just China. It's okay

没关系,丁是世界的,不仅仅是中国的。

 

elppaple

Wng at chess in China is like wng at badminton in the US.

在中国,赢国际象棋比赛就像在美国赢羽毛球比赛。

sunshinepower01

Lol, this is sadly accurate. As an avid badminton fan, I remember hearing practically nothing from US news outlets when Bach/Gunawan (representing the US) won the Badminton World Championship in 2005, which is a big deal for the rest of the world (mostly for the countries in Asia).

哈哈,准确得可悲。作为一个狂热的羽毛球爱好者,我记得当巴赫/古纳万代表美国赢得2005年羽毛球世界锦标赛时,美国新闻媒体几乎没有发布任何消息,这对世界其他地区(主要是亚洲国家)来说可是一件大事。

 

severedfromreality

It all boils down to interest, in India general public didn't know about chess except the 2013 chess championship. Since pandemic there has been more interest and engagement. Even Pragg beating Magnus online is national headlines.

Hopefully with Dings win, there is more interest and celebrate Ding.

都是因为兴趣,在印度,除了2013年的国际象棋锦标赛,普通民众对国际象棋一无所知。自疫情以来,人们的兴趣和参与有所增加。就连布拉格在网上击败马格努斯都成了全国头条新闻。希望随着丁的胜利,会有更多的人感兴趣,并为他庆祝。

 

Throwawayacct1015

Most people in China don't even know this event was happening.

It actually makes me mad because each year the NBA playoff finals gets #1 on Weibo there but Ding Liren making history in his own country doesn't even make top 10 trending.

大多数中国人甚至不知道这事。

这真的让我很生气,因为每年NBA季后赛都在微博上排名第一,但在自己国家创造历史的丁立人却连前十都进不了。

WilsonRS

Why does it make you mad? Do you think Chess is more deserving? Fact is sports like basketball is far more mainstream and popular by many magnitudes. Less people being excited about Ding's win doesn't have to take away your own excitement for it.

为什么这会让你生气?你觉得象棋更有资格吗?事实上,像篮球这样的运动是主流,更受欢迎。对丁获胜感到兴奋的人越来越少,但这并不会影响你的兴奋感。

Specific-Ad7257

I don't think it's anything to be mad about. There are plenty of people who I don't know, who have probably made history in their sports that are American, that I don't know about because the sport just isn't that popular here. Just because of the sheer numbers China has a fair number of chess players, and in their chess community this is just as big as the news as it is in the rest of the world

我觉得这没什么好生气的。有很多我不认识的人,他们可能在他们的运动中创造了历史,他们是美国人,我不知道,因为这项运动在这里不那么受欢迎。正因为人数众多,中国有相当数量的国际象棋选手,在他们的国际象棋社区,这和在世界其他地方一样,都是重大新闻。

 

stringsandthings3

How could these numbers possibly be accurate? Every man, woman and child in China read over 70 posts each about the LoL world final?

这些数字怎么可能是准确的?中国的每个男人、女人和孩子都看了70多条关于英雄联盟世界总决赛的帖子?

 

Valcatraxx

Chinese chess is more popular in China than western chess, who would've known?

在中国,中国象棋比西方象棋更受欢迎,谁会知道呢?

 

Trolly-bus

Only 新浪棋牌 has been regularly posting. Their post after Ding's victory amassed 2.2k likes, 600 shares and 268 comment so far.

央视新闻 just posted 30 minutes ago, and being the major news channel, obviously it quickly amassed 2000 likes and is expected to continue growing to the 10ks.

人民日报 posted around 6 hours ago and has almost 2k likes.

I think it's starting to gain much more traction in China. More and more posts are arising in Chinese social media after Ding's victory, as opposed to during the match when there were barely any posts.

只有新浪棋牌经常发帖。到目前为止,他们在丁获胜后发布的帖子获得了2200个赞、600次分享和268条评论。

30分钟前刚刚发布,作为主要的新闻频道,迅速积累了2000个赞,预计将继续增长到10万。《中国日报》6小时前发的帖子有近2000个赞。

我认为这开始在中国获得更大的吸引力。丁获胜后,中国社交媒体上出现了越来越多的帖子,而在比赛期间几乎没有任何帖子。

 

apocolypticbosmer

China’s thing is Go, not chess.

中国擅长的是围棋,不是国际象棋。

 

StandAloneComplexed

Don't forget X iangqi, or Chinese chess. You can find people playing it in parks everywhere.

别忘了中国象棋。不管在哪,公园里都有很多人玩。

 

LepsGo

The chess bubble is not that big in many countries.

在许多国家,国际象棋的泡沫并没有那么大。

 

Valuable-Sleep5252

The chess scene is China is simply not that vibrant as the rest of the world. But during the finals and the tie breaks the live streams etc had upwards of tens of thousands of people watching. Not great numbers still but it is a step in the right direction! At least multiple news agencies reported his win and he was trending on Zhihu. I can only hope Ding gets more sponsors and support from companies now that he is the champ.

在中国,国际象棋的氛围并不像世界其他地方那样充满活力。但在决赛和平局期间,直播间有几千人观看。虽然人数并不多,但这是朝着正确方向迈出的一步!至少有多家新闻机构报道了他获胜,他在知乎上成为热门话题。丁现在是冠军,我只希望他能得到更多的赞助商和公司的支持。

 

hostileb

But Ding's name will be on the wikipedia list for at least two centuries. He will be everywhere on lists because there are only seveneteen world champions. It would take 300 years for there to be 50 world champions.

但丁的名字将在维基百科的名单上留名至少两个世纪。他会留在世界冠军名单上,因为只有17个世界冠军。300年才能出50个世界冠军。

 

PieCapital1631

It will be bittersweet. I hope the Chinese chess players (and X iangqi, Go and Shogi) players take this win into their hearts and use it to improve, and get more funding and support. I hope that then goes to help settle Ding mentally, and be comfortable wearing the crown. (Ding wins World Championship in his current volatile mental state -- what's he going to be like when he rediscovers his Terminator mode?)

苦乐参半。我希望中国棋手(以及象棋、围棋和将棋棋手)将这场胜利铭记在心,并利用它来提高自己,获得更多的资金和支持。我希望这能帮助丁在精神上安定下来,自在地戴着这顶王冠。

 

the_dry_for_kelp

Chess isn't universal, so it makes sense that in some parts of the world people don't care about it much.

I mean, what percentage of Chinese people can even play the game at all? Or hell, what's the percentage in the West? Living in Europe, I know European adults who don't know the rules, both people in my life and public figures. Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen (both English) infamously don't know how to play chess

国际象棋并不普及,所以在一些地方,人们不太关心。我的意思是,有多少中国人会玩这个游戏?西方人玩的比例是多少?生活在欧洲,我认识一些不懂国际象棋规则的欧洲成年人,包括我生活中遇到的人和公众人物。帕特里克·斯图尔特和伊恩·麦克莱恩(都是英国人)是出了名的不会下棋

 

agYain

I think 90s of last century is the peak of chess in China, I mean popularity. Sincerely, we need a ppl with more entertaining spirits to promote chess in China to attract teenagers. That’s why Go has a much better popularity.

我认为上世纪90年代是国际象棋在中国的顶峰,我的意思是受欢迎程度。我们需要一个更有娱乐精神的人来在中国推广国际象棋,吸引青少年。这也是围棋在中国更受欢迎的原因。

 

The_Onion_Baron

Was talking to a Chinese colleague of mine, and he's convinced that Ding's win will have little to no effect on the popularity of chess in China.

Women in China have been terrifically successful in chess, and it hasn't wiggled the needle.

China also has terrifically popular abstract strategy games already, like xangqi and go, so chess just doesn't have a niche to fill.

我和我的一位中国同事交谈过,他确信丁的胜利对国际象棋在中国的普及几乎没有影响。

中国女性以前在国际象棋上就取得过惊人的成功,但这并没有改变局面。

中国也有非常受欢迎的抽象策略游戏,比如象棋和围棋,所以国际象棋并没有足够的市场空间。

 

Globalsilver69

That’s unfortunate to hear, kinda ironic considering China has some amazing players

这听起来很不幸,有点讽刺,因为中国有一些了不起的棋手

 

FL8_JT26

Not every sport/game is going to be popular in every country and there's nothing wrong with that.

并非所有运动和游戏都能在每个国家流行,这并没有什么问题。

 

Giraffelack

Chess is a minor sport in China compared to Go and other games. Different culture/different sports and games. Unfortunate, but I wonder how good of a Go player ding is

与围棋和其他游戏相比,国际象棋在中国是一项次要的运动。不同的文化,不同的运动和游戏。但我想知道丁的围棋下得有多好

 

Pristine-Woodpecker

Chinese chess is way more popular than go in China AFAIK.

在中国,中国象棋比围棋受欢迎多了。

 

cpmei

Chinese chess is much more popular than chess in China. You see people play it in parks everywhere.

在中国,中国象棋比国际象棋更受欢迎。到处都有人在公园里玩。

 

cirad

I have an electronic Chinese chess board from Novag. Looks like a fun game but kind of hard getting used to

我有一个电子中国棋盘。看起来是个有趣的游戏,但有点难适应

 

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