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中国超级航母“福建号”和美国最新的核动力航母“福特”号,谁更强大

Type 003 Fujian vs Gerald Ford - Aircraft Carrier Comparison

003型“福建舰” VS “福特”号航母比较

We compare the newly launched Chinese supercarrier, the Fujian, with the latest nuclear carrier of the US Navy, the Ford. We examine the ships' electromagnetic catapults, naval aviation facilities, propulsion, and radar systems.

我们将中国近期下水的超级航母“福建号”建与美国海军最新的核动力航母“福特”号进行比较。我们对比了它们的电磁弹射器,海军航空设施,推进和雷达系统。

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福特级首舰“福特”号拥有十分强悍的作战能力。其采用的是核动力系统,配备了2台A1B压水式核反应堆与4台汽轮机,最大能够搭载90架舰载机。在标准模式下,福特号能够搭载75架各式舰载机,在一天的时间内能够对600多个目标进行打击。

福建舰是中国完全自主设计建造的首艘弹射型航空母舰,采用平直通长飞行甲板,配置电磁弹射和阻拦装置,满载排水量8万余吨,是当之无愧的世界头号常规动力航母。

以下是各国网民的评论:

Scott11078

To add more info regarding weight mostly concerning the type 03. I was an engineer in the US Navy, my first ship was the USS Kitty Hawk CV-63. After I had been aboard her awhile and gained experince one of my jobs was to weigh her in the morning. The heaviest I ever recorded was 89,264 tons.

提供更多关于03型重量的信息。我是美国海军的一名工程师,我工作的第一艘舰是小鹰号CV-63。我在上面待了一段时间,积累了一些经验,其中一项工作就是每天早晨记录舰重。我所记录的最重重量是89264吨。

 

risingtoneofthemojo

Excellent video fairly breaking down differences, benefits, and reasons for design purposes for both ships. One other diff between the two ships is that with the Ford they were able to move the island further back on the deck, thus easing access to elevators, allowing easier/faster maneuvering for planes on the deck, and is another subtle factor that will increase sortie rates. This was a lesson they took from the Nimitz as you can see the Nimitz's island is more similarly placed like the Fujian's. Because all the elevators were in front of the island this was also cited as a reason for them being okay removing the 4th elevator as they could more efficiently use the 3 remaining ones while also have more deck space that was easier to use, and therefore it's lost redundancy was outweighed by others gains.

公正地分析了二者的差异、好处和设计目的的原因。二者之间的另一个区别是,有了福特号,能够将舰岛移到甲板后面,从而方便了升降机的使用,使甲板上的飞机更容易/更快地机动,这是另一个提升出动率的微妙因素。这是他们从尼米兹号吸取的教训,你可以看到尼米兹号的舰岛和福建舰的位置更相似。因为所有的升降机都在舰岛的前面,这也是他们拆除第4部升降机的一个原因,可以更有效地使用剩下的3部,同时也有更多的甲板空间,更易使用。

 

Ong Yew Leng

Good information. It helps the ordinary layman to understand the differences between the the Fujian and Gerald Ford aircraft carriers.

这有助于外行了解福建舰和福特号航母之间的区别。

 

rmarbertin8

No doubt they'd have advanced EM launchers, given all their experience with maglev trains, and overall, it will probably focus on delivering rapid responses, and leave less immediate priority strikes to the mainland, which is well within range to launch vast volumes of sorties & strikes.

毫无疑问,考虑到他们在磁悬浮列车方面的经验,他们会有先进的电磁弹射器,总的来说,他们可能会提高快速反应,使大陆遭受更少打击,大陆完全在发动大规模架次和打击的范围内。

 

Larry Roberts

Just one comment; American Carriers are moving most of their Anti-sub-Choppers to their escort ships. Allowing more room for Fixed Wing Aircraft for Combat operations hel to increase shorty rates. This also puts the Choppers out closer to their operational areas away from the Carrier making them more efficient as well.

美国航母正在将大部分反潜直升机转移到护卫舰上,为固定翼飞机的作战行动提供更多的空间,有助于提高短装率。这也使直升机更接近他们的作战区域,远离航母,使他们更有效率。

 

Thames Shylock

What I'm curious about is that 003 can make the island that small

我好奇的是003型能把舰岛做得那么小

 

 

JIAWEI Zhao

Thank you! I've watched ton of videos about type 003 as well as the comparison with the Ford class. Your video is the most calm and educational. Thanks!

我看了大量关于003型的视频,以及与福特号的比较。你的对比是最冷静的,具最有教育性。谢谢!

 

Tricia

HV/MVDC vs AC in any integrated electronics system is a HUGE benefit, not to be underplayed. Much more versatility.

HV/MVDC与AC在任何集成电子系统中都是一个巨大的优势,不可低估。功能多得多。

 

Rodriguinho Perruci

It's the F-35C, the F-35B is for short take off and landing (VTOL), and the Gerald R Ford also carries EA-18G Growler Electronic Warfare Aircraft

F-35C, F-35B是短距起降(垂直起降),杰拉尔德·R·福特号还携带EA-18G咆哮者电子战飞机

 

kempmt1

The main difference between the two ships is that one is commissioned with more on the way. One is new that does not have the capabilities of the nuclear powered one. 3:53-“also the two California- class (CGN-36) cruisers”, California (CGN-36) and South Carolina (CGN-37).

二者的主要区别是,其中一艘已经服役,更多的将陆续服役。一个是新的,不具备核动力能力。“还有两艘加州级(CGN-36)巡洋舰”,加州(CGN-36)和南卡罗莱纳(CGN-37)。”

 

Kevin Murphy

One thing not discussed...experience in fleet carrier operations. The Fuijan crew will not be able to match the USN operational experience overall, I would say for some time? But I am sure the Chinese will be hell bent for leather to get there. Lets just hope we get eventual mature, thoughtful real world leaders in place (which we do not have now in any sense) so these wont ever have to be used.

还有一点没有讨论,航母舰队操作经验。我想说,在一段时间内,福建舰的整体作战经验将无法与美国海军匹敌。但我相信中国人会拼命追赶的。我们只希望我们最终能找到成熟的、有思想的真正世界领导人(我们现在没有),这样就永远不会用到这些装备了。

 

Don Staggs

All that I can say is look at the time it took to build and launch them. The Keel was laid in 2020 for the 003 and launched in 2022. The keel on the Ford was laid 11/14/2009 and commissioned in July, 2017.

我所能说的就是看看建造和下水所花费的时间。于2020年为003型铺设龙骨,并于2022年下水。“福特”号的龙骨于2009年11月14日铺设,并于2017年7月下水。

 

George Davey

The deck space Is not the only place aircraft are serviced or parked. That job would fall onto the massive hangar space located just below deck.

甲板空间不是舰载机机唯一使用或停放的地方,还要位于甲板下方的巨大机库空间。

 

Michael Hoffmann

You made no comparison about the crews that man these ships. Training and actual combat experience (and success).

你没有比较航母上的船员、训练和实战经验(还有战绩)。

 

jiokl7g9t6

Expect that the drone squadrons will be a significant % of the carrier air group.

预计无人机中队将在航母航空队中占相当大的比例。

 

ragabara

I'm getting some impression from this video alone that China's philosophy on aircraft carriers is vastly different from the United States and Russia. Rather than making the aircraft carrier the leader of a fleet or an independent vessel meant to conduct operations alone, China's aircraft carrier is simply one part of a heavily integrated fleet with its own share of responsibilities. It has to keep up with the rest of the fleet and not become more of a liability than any of the other vessels. It also doesn't need to offer too many capabilities that are superior but redundant to the other vessels. Not a flagship or superweapon, but just another instrument.

中国对航母的理念与美国和俄罗斯有很大的不同。中国的航母不是一个舰队的领导者,也不是一艘独立的军舰,只是一个高度整合的舰队的一部分,有自己的责任。它必须与舰队的其他船只保持一致,不能比其他船只更容易成为一种负担。它也不需要提供太多优于其他船只但多余的功能。航母不是旗舰或超级武器,只是另一种工具而已。

 

joseph smith

It's very difficult to launch planes the usn had issues with the f14 bc of money and maintenance they had to scale back to the f18 it's very training intensive to fly and land on a carrier but this is a amazing leap in china's navy might

发射飞机是非常难的,美国在F14上遇到了问题,因为资金和维护,他们不得不缩减到F18,在航母上起降需要非常密集的训练,但这是中国海军实力的一个惊人飞跃

 

springtime

It's worth remembering that the Ford Class like the Nimitz Class will be improved and modified ship by ship with most if not all Ford Class CVN's being subclasses and I'd imagine that any additional Type 003 class CV's will not be the same as well

值得记住的是,像尼米兹级、福特级将一艘一艘地改进,大部分(如果不是全部)福特级CVN都是子类,我可以想象任何003型都达不到同样的水准

 

James Kreger

I have a lot of doubts about Chinese tech as we have to guess a bit to much about it. And I think it’s alot easier to compare outside tech and becomes alot harder when comparing combat systems, ect.

我对中国科技有很多怀疑,我们不得不进行猜测。我认为比较外部技术要容易得多,而比较战斗系统就难得多。

 

Clark Isaac

Chinese made means egg shell durability for everything. No matter a closure of information or not, that's all.

中国制造意味着任何东西都和蛋壳一样。无论信息是否封闭,都是如此。

 

DiscothecaImperialis

Actually Fujian Province also the origins of Hokkien people. this of Chinese 'tribe' developed their cultures around academics as the oldest 'university' is located in that province, to be specific the iamen City. and also reputed to have the most candidates to pass the Imperial Exam through the course of each respective dynasties. In some Southeast Asian Empires the Fujians were the preferred choice of bureaucrats recruited by the Royal Court. the Province has the pride of being the center of Education, Science and Cultures for centuries similiar to Indian Taxla.

其实福建也是闽南语的发祥地。这个中国“部落”围绕着学术发展了他们的文化,因为最古老的“大学”位于该省,具体来说是厦门市。并且在每个朝代都以通过科举考试的考生最多而闻名。在一些东南亚帝国,福建人是皇室招募官员的首选。几个世纪以来,该省一直是教育、科学和文化的中心,类似于印度的塔克西拉。

 

James _ L

By comparison 003 type 80k tons is Not in the super carrier category (100k ton) she is in the big carrier category

相比之下,003型重8万吨,不属于超级航母类别(10万吨),她属于大型航母类别

 

Jr Smith

And on top of it there will be an Iowa class Battleship with 16in guns firing in furious anger at the rate of 20 rounds per minute

除此之外,美国将有爱荷华级战列舰,配有16英寸火炮,以每分钟20发的速度怒射

 

Roberto Manalo

US and UK already have experienced operating an Aircraft Carrier for the last 100 yrs since 1920.

自1920年以来,美国和英国在过去100年里已经有了操作航母的经验。

 

Ishraq

If front section was 5 to 8 m longer m longer and fujian would have been able to afford another catapult.... Great video as usual.. keep up the good works.

如果前段长5 - 8米,福建舰就能容纳另一种弹射器。视频一如既往的精彩,再接再厉。

 

Xylos101

Worrying about RCS on a carrier... I can think of other things that might be more detrimental than the masts, like the fact the ship is 300m long and 100,000 tonnes. Yeah, she might show up on radar.

担心航母的雷达横截面,我能想到其他可能比桅杆更有害的事情,比如这艘船有300米长,10万吨重。是啊,她可能会出现在雷达上。

 

Alex Katsaros

There is no point comparing the two. The 003 is just another test platform for the chinese. Before the chinese will build their true first supercarrier they must master the complexty of a carrier. And that is the 003, they dont intend to deploy it seriously in battle.

比较两者是没有意义的。003型只是中国人的另一个测试平台。在中国人建造第一艘超级航母之前,他们必须掌握航母的复杂性。这就是造003型的目的,他们不打算在战斗中部署它。

 

Ulikemyname

he biggest difference between the Chinese and the US militaries not just with these 2 is that the US is building weapons around their own experience and the Chinese around the experience of others. The Chinese believe this ship will serve based on a doctrine that the Chinese never tested in combat. While Ford is build behind tried and tested doctrine

中国军队和美国军队之间最大的区别不仅仅是这两艘航母,美国是根据自己的经验建造武器,而中国是根据别人的经验建造武器。中国认为这艘航母将基于一种中国从未在战斗中检验过的理论来服役。而福特舰是建立在久经考验的理论基础之上的

 

Heng Chen

The only comparison is that there's no comparison between the two.

唯一的比较是二者没有可比性。

 

Ghettofinger

China's biggest weakness is lack of experience. They have been building weapon systems they've never used in real combat. They are basing most of their modern military doctrines off of the performance the US had in the Gulf War. However, much has changed since then. The US has the military experience to develop modern military doctrines from scratch because they understand what it takes to use these weapons in actual warefare and what to expect, the Chinese don't. This will be a major drawback for them in any real conflict with the US. We have seen with Russia's performance that equipment does not mean that the equipment will be used optimally.

中国最大的弱点是缺乏经验。他们一直在建造从未在实战中使用过的武器系统。他们的大部分现代军事理论都是基于美国在海湾战争中的表现。然而,自那以后,情况发生了很大变化。美国有从零开始发展现代军事理论的军事经验,因为他们知道在实际战争中使用这些武器需要什么,以及会发生什么,而中国人不知道。在与美国的任何真正冲突中,这将是他们的一个主要不足。我们从俄罗斯的表现中看到,拥有装备并不意味着装备将得到最佳使用。

 

David Roberts

Fujian would be a Coral reef in a few hours all 1of them

一旦爆发冲突,福建舰会在几个小时内变成珊瑚礁

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