Type 003 Fujian vs Queen Elizabeth - Aircraft Carrier Comparison

003型“福建舰”VS“伊丽莎白女王”号航母对比

We compare the new Chinese supercarrier, the Fujian, with the UK Royal Navy's latest pair of fleet carriers, the Queen Elizabeth class. We examine the ships' structural features, aircraft launch and recovery systems, aviation facilities, and airwing.

我们将中国的新超级航母“福建舰”与英国皇家海军最新的两艘航母“伊丽莎白女王”号进行比较。我们对比了航母的结构特征，飞机发射和回收系统，航空设施和机翼。

伊丽莎白女王级航空母舰（英文：Queen Elizabeth-class aircraft carrier），是英国皇家海军隶下的一型航空母舰，是一型采用常规动力，短距滑跃起飞并垂直降落的双舰岛多用途航空母舰。

伊丽莎白女王级航空母舰是英国皇家海军有史以来最大的战舰，并首次使用燃气轮机和全电驱动，将取代以反潜作战为主要任务只能搭载有限数量舰载机的无敌级航空母舰，成为英国未来的远洋主力

它是世界上吨位最大的滑跃起飞，垂直降落型航空母舰，是世界上第1艘采用双舰岛的航空母舰，也是世界上第1艘采用IFEP综合电力推进系统的航母，是英国皇家海军，有史以来最大的战舰，还是英国首次使用燃气轮机和全电驱动的航空母舰

福建舰是中国完全自主设计建造的首艘弹射型航空母舰，采用平直通长飞行甲板，配置电磁弹射和阻拦装置，满载排水量8万余吨

以下是各国网民的评论：

Nostra Damus

In reality, the QE (should it appear in the SCS as an aggressor) is more likely to be greeted by a YJ-21 hypersonic missile armed 055 DDG or a land based DF-21 or DF-17 than the 003. Carriers in this day and age are sitting ducks. ������ should not over invest in carriers beyond 5.

实际上，伊丽莎白女王号(如果它以侵略者的身份出现在南海)更有可能受到装备055 DDG的YJ-21高超音速导弹或陆基DF-21或DF-17的迎接，而不是003型。在这个时代，航母成了活靶子，不应该过度投资超过5艘航母。

HauntedPancake

I'm not sure you actually need blast-deflectors with the F-35B to have (fairly) continuous launches. From what I could find, the Brits launch them STOVL with the nozzle angled down some 30-40 degrees. With the wide parking area and no time spend hooking planes up to a catapults, I think they could have a surprisingly good launch-rate.

我不确定是否真的需要喷焰偏转器和F-35B来进行(相当)连续的发射。据我所知，英国人用STOVL发射，喷嘴向下倾斜30-40度。有了宽阔的停放区域，不用花时间把飞机连接到弹射器上，我认为他们可以有一个惊人的高发射率。

G L

The EMALS actually has more range of weight it can launch. Which means not only can it launch heavier aircraft like cargo or early warning, it can also launch lightweight drones.

EMALS发射的重量范围实际上更大。这意味着它不仅可以发射货运或预警等重型飞机，也可以发射轻型无人机。

enzhus

I don't think you should make this comparison at all. Fujian is at a class of its own, though it is still not as good as those US super carriers, but it beats any carrier from other countries easily. I think it's better to compare Queen Elizabeth with Shandong.

我认为你根本不应该做这样的比较。福建舰自成一类，虽然还不如美国的超级航母，但它可以轻松击败其他国家的任何航母。我觉得拿伊丽莎白女王号和山东舰比较是比较合适的。

fares challah

I’ll keep it short and sweet mate - great vid as usual - but I hate the design by the UK- it isn’t a super carrier that the fujian class has the potential to turn into - this aircraft carrier IS the pinnacle of UK ship building capability Lastly the fujian class would have a better sortie rate based on the layout of the design and it is only the begng of China carrier program whereas the UK will not develop and build another carrier for at least a decade

我讨厌英国的设计，它不是超级航母，福建舰有可能变成超级航母，这艘航空母舰是英国造船能力的顶峰。根据设计布局，福建舰将有更好的出动率，这只是中国航母计划的开始，而英国至少在10年内无法建造出另一艘航母

Jeremy Wickersheimer

I guess the dual island helps with the inferior point defense systems, but it takes up a lot of space.

我想双舰岛可以帮助解决防御系统较差的问题，但它占用了很多空间。

Thomas Zhang

The advantage of a single island vs two is that you leave more space for the flight deck. This may seem insignificant, but if you take a look at the actual usable space on a flight deck for storing and moving aircraft (aka removing the take off and landing portion), you will find that the space seems much more limited and any increase seems a lot more significant.

单舰岛vs双舰岛的优势在于可以为飞行甲板留下更多空间。这可能看起来微不足道，但如果你看看飞行甲板上用于存储和移动飞机的实际可用空间(也就是去掉起飞和降落部分)，你会发现空间似乎更有限，空间的任何一点增加似乎都更重要。

JYF921

Queen Elizabeth is the top tier flagship carrier of all the countries who think that an F35B will solve all their deficiencies in constructing true aircraft carriers.

认为伊丽莎白女王号是顶级旗舰航母的国家认为F-35B将解决他们在建造真正航母方面的所有不足。

Wolfstan

Just my opinion The Type 003 will be the better aircraft carrier and by quite some distance (although the Elizabeth is currently operational and well-crewed and the Type 003 is not). If the UK convert their carriers into CATOBAR (like the PA2 carrier design) it would be a similarly capable ship. Type 003 could carry up to 85 aircraft Elizabeth class carrier could carry up to 70 Still the Type 003 looks like a real nice bit of kit.

我认为，003型将是更好的航母，而且会有相当大的差距(尽管伊丽莎白号目前正在服役，船员也很好，而003型没有)。如果英国将他们的航母改装成CATOBAR(就像PA2航母设计一样)，它将成为一艘能力相似的船。003型可以携带多达85架飞机，伊丽莎白级航母可以携带多达70架飞机，003型看起来很不错。

KW

A fairer comparison would be between entire carrier groups rather than the individual carriers themselves. In this case, the Queen Elizabeth would become more of a joke with its pair of unreliable type 45 destroyers and type 23 museum ships. The lack a decent fleet air defence would leave the Queen Elizabeth threatened by even subsonic YJ-83s let alone hypersonic YJ-21s. Thus, unless the Queen Elizabeth is accompanied by "allied" escorts, it's own domestic fleet alone probably won't even survive the Liaoning battle group in a direct encounter

更公平的比较应该是在整个航母集群之间进行，而不是单个航母。在这种情况下，伊丽莎白女王号将成为一个笑话，因为它那一对不可靠的45型驱逐舰和23型博物馆船。缺乏像样的舰队防空系统将使伊丽莎白女王号受到亚音速鹰击 -83的威胁，更不用说高超音速鹰击 -21了。因此，除非“伊丽莎白女王”号有“盟军”护航，否则它自己的国内舰队甚至可能无法在与辽宁舰战斗群的直接遭遇中幸存下来

TV Gerbil

It is strange not to do much comparison of the propulsion systems of these two very large ships.

奇怪的是，没有对二者的推进系统做充分的比较。

G L

The RN has been naming their ships like that for a long time. Really the only ship that lived up to its name was the Warspite, because it was one of the most tenacious ship in the fleet with a crazy service history.

皇家海军这么给他们的军舰命名已经很久了。真正名副其实的唯一一艘军舰是“厌战”号，因为它是舰队中最顽强的军舰之一，有着疯狂的服役历史。

Jacob Baumgardner

I believe the British were a careful to not have an underperforming air wing. As far as I can tell there’s no limitation in lining up aircraft to takeoff, as they were doing with less stable Harriers on smaller carriers as see in this video (4 Harriers line up to take off from the Ark Royal.MOV). From sources I have read QE2 can maintain sortie rates as high or higher than the Nimitz class, and up to 3/4 the sortie rate of the Ford class, though I don’t know how it would compare to Fujian, as surge rates on CATOBAR carriers are more sustainable over an extended period of time, so I won’t make any uneducated guesses.

我认为英国人很小心，不会让他们的空中联队表现不佳。据我所知，在飞机起飞前排队没有限制，就像他们在视频中看到的小航母上不太稳定的鹞式战斗机一样(4架鹞式战斗机在皇家方舟号上排队起飞)。从我了解到的消息来看，伊丽莎白号可以保持与尼米兹级相同或更高的出动架次率，并且可以达到福特级的3/4，尽管我不知道它与福建舰相比如何，因为CATOBAR航母的激增率在一段时间内更可持续，所以我不会做任何没有根据的猜测。

Strategy & Analysis Centre

Thanks for this @ENI. Agree with your assessment that the Fujian is a better aircraft carrier. However, and I know you mention this in the video, it is a little unfair to compare these 2 as the Fujian is a CATOBAR carrier and the QE-class are STOVL carriers. QE-class has a very good deck area considering its overall dimensions, which allows for more aircraft than might otherwise be available for a carrier of its size

福建舰是一艘更好的航母。然而，我知道你在视频中提到了这一点，将这两艘航母进行比较有点不公平，因为福建舰是CATOBAR航母，而伊丽莎白女王号是STOVL航母。考虑到它的整体尺寸，伊丽莎白女王号的甲板面积很大，这可以容纳更多的舰载机。

Streuner

I have such a hard time getting used to seeing that Queen Elizabeth launch ramp LOL I think the biggest difference between them is their experience levels. Above all else.

我看不惯伊丽莎白女王号的发射坡道，哈哈，我认为它们之间最大的区别是它们的经验水平，这也是最重要的一点。

J D

There’s just no comparison, IMO, the PRC not only have a better carrier with the Type 003, they have vastly superior battle group compositions when you break it down, the 055, 054 and 052 classes are just so far ahead of what the UK has. In terms of raw naval power, there’s the US and the PRC, then everyone else, very far behind. I don’t foresee that changing over the coming decades, India and Russia just aren’t going to get there, they’ll have pockets of excellence with particular platforms and weapons, though it won’t be to the same scale, Japan and South Korea have exceptionally capable regional navies, though again, they’ll never project in the same way. I expect the both nations to come out swinging with their next offerings, the DDGX and the Type 055a are likely going to be the top two ship classes in the world over the coming years.

没有可比性，在我看来，中国不仅拥有比003型更好的航母，他们的战斗群组成要优越得多，055、054和052级远远领先于英国。就原始海军力量而言，美国第一，其次是中国，然后是其他国家，但远远落后。我不认为这在未来几十年里会发生变化，印度和俄罗斯无法达到那个水平，他们会有一些优秀的平台和武器，尽管规模不会相同，日本和韩国有非常有能力的地区海军，尽管他们永远不会以同样的方式投射。我预计这两个国家都将推出他们的下一款产品，DDGX和055a型很可能在未来几年成为世界上排名前两的舰艇级别。

knight6831

15:50 yeah not at the moment but will likely add EMALS for drones once the EMALS works reliably You need to consider that the British Royal Navy is hesitant to use unproven technology until it is reliable

一旦EMALS可靠了，可能会为无人机增加EMALS。你需要考虑到英国皇家海军在使用未经验证的技术时犹豫不决，直到技术可靠为止他们才会用

tean tan

Two islands provide redundancy, with the readily availability of Hypersonic missiles, redundancy is not much of an advantage. My argument: When the carrier(so expensive) is within range the enemy can launch 10 Hypersonic missiles at least one of them will hit bullseye.The total price of Hypersonic is a fraction of the Carrier.

我的观点是：当航母(如此昂贵)在射程内时，敌人可以发射10枚高超音速导弹，至少有一枚会击中靶心。高超声速导弹的总价格是航母造价的一小部分。

Doomguy 05816

Since China has now put the YJ-21 missile into service will the YJ-18 still have a place in the Chinese military in the future?

既然中国现在已经将鹰击-21导弹投入使用，那么鹰击-18未来是否还会在中国军队中占有一席之地?

A B

I think the QE class are actually closer to 70k tons when fully loaded. Also from what I've read Prince Of Wales is actually slightly heavier than QE. I've also heard that the UK might be looking to acquire a maritime version of the MQ-9B with folding wings and catapult launch. This is only a rumour but it would give a whole lot more flexbility for AEW and tanker aircraft.

我认为伊丽莎白女王号在满载时实际上接近7万吨。此外，据我所知，威尔士亲王号实际上比伊丽莎白女王号略重。我还听说英国可能正在寻求获得具有折叠机翼和弹射发射的MQ-9B的海上版本。这只是一个谣言，但它将为预警机和加油机提供更多的灵活性。

oLev

Strangely the QE class has gone backwards and abandoned basic aircraft carrier innovations like angled flight decks and arresting gear that would not affect STOVL operations. Rather it has commited itself to STOVL technology working perfectly to launch and recover its air wing.

奇怪的是，伊丽莎白女王号已经退步了，放弃了基本的航母创新，比如倾斜的飞行甲板和不会影响STOVL操作的拦阻装置。相反，它致力于完善STOVL技术，以发射和回收其空中联队。

Mark Woods

Cat-o-bar system is likely to be fitted when HMS Queen Elizabeth goes in for a refit

当英国皇家海军伊丽莎白女王号进行改装时，可能会安装Catobar系统

Steven Smith

China's biggest issue against the UK is going to be a lack of naval warfighting experience.

中国对抗英国的最大问题将是缺乏海军作战经验。

Scowcz

003: The advantage is obvious

003型的优势是显而易见的

magnaviator

QE is more like a helicopter carrier comparable to the type 75, no?

伊丽莎白女王号更像是一艘堪比75型的直升机航母，不是吗?

John Bodman

The 003 is quite impressive for a country that has had carriers for only a short time. I think that the fixed wing fighters on the 003 will have more than double the payload each of the f-35 and probably close to double the range. The electro magnetic catapult alone, puts the 003 in a different class and the AESA radar just adds to that. I would like to have known the top speeds of both ships, but I will probably find out at some stage. I am looking forward to hearing about the 004 when it is built.

对于一个拥有航母时间很短的国家来说，003型是相当令人印象深刻的。我认为003上的固定翼战斗机的有效载荷是F-35的两倍多，航程可能接近F-35的两倍。电磁弹射器本身，使003型处于一个不同的级别，AESA雷达更是加分。我想知道这二者的最高速度，但我可能会在某个阶段找到答案。我期待着004建成后的消息。

jzsn

There is no comparison: one is a supercarrier and one is a STOVL carrier little more than helicopter landing docks.

没有可比性：一艘是超级航母，一艘是STOVL航母

Dream’s Father

having awacs alone is several levels ahead

仅拥有预警机就已经领先好几个档次了

John Silver

Apparently QE has the fastest sortie rate, even faster than Ford or Nimitz or any other catapult based carrier.

显然，伊丽莎白女王号拥有最快的出动率，甚至比福特或尼米兹级或任何其他弹射航母都要快。

Tim Brian Tufuga

Excellent comparison and in conclusion the Queen Elizabeth is already obsolete. It is still back in the Falkland War era in their operability and role. Not applicable in the modern nascent superpower naval superiority of the Chinese Navy.

伊丽莎白女王号已经过时了。它的可操作性和作用还停留在马岛战争时代，在现代新兴超级大国中国海军的优势面前，没法比。