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面临城市繁荣,印度的基础设施却难以跟上

 India facing an urban boom as infrastructure struggles to keep up

面临城市繁荣,印度的基础设施却难以跟上

The population of Mumbai, also known as India’s ‘Maxmum City’, grew by some eight million people, roughly equivalent to the size of New York City, in the last 30 years. But Mumbai’s housing, transport, water and waste management infrastructure have not kept pace, with around 40 per cent of the city’s 20 million living in slums. These crowded collections of ramshackle buildings often have no regular supply of water and power or proper sanitation.

孟买也被称为印度的“最大城市”,在过去30年里,孟买的人口增加了大约800万,大致相当于纽约市的规模。而孟买的住房、交通、供水和废物管理基础设施没有跟上发展步伐,该市2000万人口中约有40%生活在贫民窟。这些拥挤的摇摇晃晃的建筑物往往没有正常的水电供应,也没有好的卫生设施。

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以下是印度网民的评论:

jerolvilladolid

I live in Manila and my country has twice the population density per sq. Kilometer of land than India does. The key to over crowded cities is to create giant suburbs around the city and expand it outwards.

我住在马尼拉,在我的国家,每平方公里的人口密度是印度的两倍。解决城市拥挤问题的关键是在城市周围建立郊区,并向外扩展。

 

s k

As an Indian, this is why development of all states need to happen. Not just Maharashtra, Gujrat, Kerala, and karnataka.

作为一个印度人,我想说这就是为什么所有邦都需要建设,不仅仅是马哈拉施特拉邦、古吉拉特邦、喀拉拉邦和卡纳塔克邦。

 

B S

From my experience being Indian is that, newly wedded are expected and pressured by society to give a birth to a child or children.  The strongest myth behind this, is that children are seen as a there is strong bound in a family, or couple won't split up (which is true, most family live for society).

People really care about giving birth rather than financial needs and plan.

从我作为印度人的经验来看,新婚夫妇受社会期望施压,生一个或几个孩子。这背后最强大的神话是,孩子被视为家庭中有强大的纽带,或者有了孩子夫妇不会离婚(这是真的,大多数家庭为社会而活。人们真正关心的是生孩子,而不是经济需求和计划。

 

tozakivy

As an Indian and a Mumbaikar, it's a pity that people have to live in these conditions especially when they can have better housing and clean spaces but the government bodies are busy fighting over nonsense issues when they have other serious problems to focus on. The sight outside the Bandra Station is a disaster.

作为一名印度人和孟买人,我想说很遗憾人们不得不生活在这样的条件下,尤其是他们本可以有更好的住房和干净的空间,但他们的身体忙于为无意义的问题斗争,而他们有其他严重的问题要关注。班德拉车站外的景象是一场灾难。

 

Abhijith Madla

True, businesses are booming but infrastructure not co - from Indian, thanks for reporting

没错,商业在蓬勃发展,但基础设施跟不上,感谢报道

 

Rainbowdays

That’s a major problem in India …my whole family supports one child policy..my parents , and other couples have one child only…next generation following the same…but others criticize us..one politician if has 7 children then you guess how others get motivated

这是印度的一个主要问题,我们全家都支持独生子女政策,我的父母和其他长辈只生一个孩子,下一代也一样,但其他人批评我们,一个政客如果生7个孩子,其他人怎么有动力

 

shirin ahmad

As a mumbaikar (one who lives in mumbai)  by myself I think hygiene thing is a matter in many places because many people's from different part of india come to mumbai special single nd very young boys, and this boys hardly invest on living  cleanliness because there motives are to make money and send it to there family in village

作为一个住在孟买的人,我认为卫生在很多地方都是问题,许多来自印度不同地区的人来到孟买,特别是非常年轻的单身男孩,他们几乎不关注环境清洁和卫生,因为他们的动机是赚钱,然后把钱寄给村里的家人

 

Fernan Montevista

Overpopulation is such a terrible problem no one will spare.

人口过剩是非常可怕的问题,没人能幸免。

 

Yan Yuan

When Indians have a plan, for instance, Make in India, they would first of all, tell the whole world about their plan, congratulate themselves about their plan, boast about their plan, marvel at their plan, compare others with their plan, ridicule others about their plan and in the end, can't even recall what was the plan

当印度人有了一个计划时,例如,“印度制造”,他们首先会把计划告诉全世界,提前祝贺,吹嘘自己的计划,为自己的计划惊叹,拿别人的计划和他们的计划比较,嘲笑别人的计划,到最后,甚至不记得这个计划是什么

 

153

its not rlly about population India lacks on hygeine and cleanliness, they also may have to try establishing a one child rule like they did in China. The government turns a blind eye to this and if this keeps going on, they may suffer in the coming years..

印度的卫生和清洁不行,这不仅仅是人口的问题,他们可能也得尝试像中国之前那样实行独生子女政策。印度政府对此视而不见,如果这种情况继续下去,他们在未来几年可能会遭殃。

 

Rebel Xyz

India should focus on other small cities and develop infrastructure there.

Big cities have already become hectic and conjested.

印度应该关注其他小城市,建设基础设施,大城市已经拥挤不堪了。

 

kerry wangnao

Points of information,  Not all the states in India is populated,  for example the state government of some of the northeast states  is encouraging its citizen to have more children by given incentives awards to mothers. Another example the population of Tamil nadu is declining for decades.. state like uttar Pradesh, bihar, Mumbai, delhi is populated

印度并非所有的邦都人口稠密,例如,一些东北邦的邦政府通过给母亲提供奖励来鼓励公民多生孩子。另一个例子,泰米尔纳德邦的人口几十年来一直在下降。北方邦、比哈尔邦、孟买、德里等邦人口稠密

 

Steven

development is a double edged sword, more infrastructure = higher cost of living = higher labor cost = slower birthrate = more higher labor cost = less export. Development is necessary and inevitable but has India reached the point of transitioning their cities into China-like mega cities require deep thoughts and ongoing debate within their own govt.

发展是一把双刃剑,更多的基础设施=更高的生活成本=更高的劳动力成本=更低的出生率=更高的劳动力成本=更少的出口。发展是必要的,也是不可避免的,但印度是否已经到了把城市转型为中国那样的超大城市的地步,这需要他们自己的政府进行深入思考和持续辩论。

 

Bobby Moss

This is what happens when the government has no foresight whatsoever.

当政府没有任何远见时,就会发生这种情况。

 

Yan Yuan

If there's a problem in India, the minister will first of all say.. "It's not a problem"! If that doesn't work, he'll say.. "No problem"! If that also doesn't work, he'll say.. "It's a small problem"! If that fails, he'll say "It's not my problem"! Finally if that one also doesn't work, he'll solve the problem by blaming China, Pakistan and Congress and everybody's happy, end of problem

如果出了问题,印度的部长首先会说,“这不是问题”!如果不管用,他会说“没问题”!如果这也不管用,他会说“这是个小问题”!如果又失败了,他会说"这不是我的问题",最后,如果这也不行,他会通过指责中国、巴基斯坦和国大党来转移注意力,皆大欢喜,问题解决!

 

Bruce Wang

On the grand scheme of things, the real problem with Mumbai is its high humidity. That's what's kee it from burning down naturally which is the fate of all big cities.

从长远来看,孟买的真正问题是高湿度,这能防止它自然烧毁,而这是所有大城市的命运。

 

Parul Gahlan

Each and every country in the world have their own issues to deal with and yes India has its own share of problems created by our political scenario which didn’t take solid steps.. things will change in future as people are changing…they are realising the problems and yes big population is a problem but it’s going to decrease as most of people are having only 1 or 2 kids…so just leave us alone and let us deal with our problems our way…

每个国家都有自己的问题要处理,是的,印度也有自己的问题,这是我们的政治造成的,我们没有采取坚实的步骤。随着人们的改变,未来的事情将会改变,他们意识到问题,是的,人口过多是一个问题,但人口将会减少,因为大多数人只有1或2个孩子,所以不要管我们,让我们用自己的方式解决问题。

 

Tea is Fantastic

I say all Indians should move to the West. Just look at Rupee Sunaq or whatever

我认为所有印度人都应该搬到西方去,看看苏纳克

 

7 years and

Indian media will never talk about these . instead they will talk about  Modi and pakistan for 10 hour  nonstop

印度媒体永远不会谈论这些。相反,他们能10个小时不间断谈论莫迪和巴基斯坦

 

RespectOthers

If China can there’s no reason why India can’t. Just needs the will and resources.

如果中国可以,印度就没有理由不行,只需要意志坚定和资源的投入。

 

Aryan Verma

if east also sees india through west lens then how east is different from west

如果东方也从西方的视角看印度,那么东方与西方有何不同

 

Jello

Person 1 - I have 15 family members and I stay in a slum.

Person 2 - I have my wife and we have no children and I stay in one of those skyscraper.

第一个人:我家有15个人,我住在贫民窟。

第二个人:我有妻子,我们没有孩子,我住在摩天大楼里。

 

Spill Tea

Everyone talking about family planning and population control and migration from rural to urban areas.

But the core problem is the rising cost of living in cities like Mumbai, housing isnt affordable.  Software engineers in Mumbai live in slums and rent controlled housing(chawls) because they cant afford the rent. While few rich people own half the city's properties. There are thousands of vacant apartments in Mumbai owned by rich indians who live overseas, this drives away middle class people with lower income.

每个人都在谈论计划生育、人口控制以及从农村到城市的人口流动。

但核心问题是孟买等城市的生活成本不断上涨,住房负担不起。孟买的软件工程师住在贫民窟,因为他们付不起房租。而少数富人拥有这座城市一半的房产。在孟买,居住在海外的印度富人拥有数千套空置公寓,赶走了收入较低的中产阶级。

 

Mayur Kanth

It is because Indian government never developed tier 2 cities. So all the migration happened into mumbai and other southern cities.

In whole North India, except delhi there is  not a single 10M+ city.

Indian government needs to boost tier 2 cities like indore, kanpur, bhopal, lucknow, ahmedabad, vadodara, rajkot, chandigarh, patna, raipur, bhuvaneshwar, cuttack, vizag, coimbatore etc so that people have more cities to migrate to and not everyone jumps into mumbai.

Indian politicians have really failed to do so.

这是因为印度政府从未发展过二线城市。所以所有的民工都去孟买和其他南部城市。在整个印度北方,除了德里,没有一个1000万人口以上的城市。

印度政府应当促进二线城市的发展,比如印多尔、坎普尔、博帕尔、勒克瑙、艾哈迈达巴德、瓦达拉、拉杰科特、昌迪加尔、巴特那、赖普尔、布瓦内什瓦尔、卡特克、维扎格、哥印拜陀等,这样人们就有更多的城市可以去,不必每个人都去孟买。印度政客们真的没能做到这一点。

 

Millie

The situation here in the Uk is very similar to Indias

英国的情况与印度非常相似

 

Ace Kelizers

Kashmir, Arunachal, Meghalaya, Parts of Shimla, Uttrakhand and Sikkim are extremely beautiful places those are really clean and hygienic, in fact cleanest Village in Asia is in Meghalaya.I don't think India is diry as people say

克什米尔、梅加拉亚邦、西姆拉、北阿坎德邦和锡金的部分地区都非常美,干净卫生,事实上亚洲最干净的村庄就在梅加拉亚邦。我认为并没有像人们说的那样脏

 

Igot7 ArmyTaekook

They need to control the birth rate. It’s mostly society fault where people are excepted to married at younger age and have child as fast as possible disregarding the financial situation.

他们需要控制出生率。这主要是社会的错,人们被要求早婚早育,却不考虑经济状况。

 

MalaysianChineseIV

Learn infrastructure development from China. China was once full of underdeveloped villages, and now they have megacities. As China is the country most similar to India in terms of size and urbanisation problems, it makes sense to look towards China for guidance.

向中国学习基础设施建设。中国曾经到处是不发达的村庄,现在他们有了超大的城市。由于中国是在规模和城市化问题上与印度最相似的国家,有理由向中国取经。

 

Basu Vivek

Constructive criticism is welcomed but India is already working on that . Several satellite cities near Metropolitan cities are under construction . Our fertility rate is down to 2 children per Women which is below replacement level .

Gender ratio has improved and now we have more females  than males .

Toilet coverage is now 99.3 percent .

欢迎建设性的批评,但印度已经在努力。大城市附近的几个卫星城正在建设中。我们的生育率下降到每个妇女2个孩子,低于更替水平。

性别比例已经改善,现在我们的女性比男性多。厕所覆盖率现已达到99.3%。

 

SumiSumi

Churchill wasn’t lying when he said they breed like rabbits

丘吉尔说他们像兔子一样繁殖,他没有撒谎

 

J Zeng

I think it doesn't matter if you are poor, but at least you need to talk about hygiene. Go to North Korea and see, even poor people will not be full of garbage and sewage. second. It is necessary to have a clear understanding of oneself and recognize one's own inadequacies in order to develop.

我觉得你穷没关系,但至少你要讲卫生。去朝鲜看看,即使是穷,也不会到处是垃圾和污水。第二。要想发展,就必须认清自己,认清自己的不足。

 

Rudraksh

This is our greatest oldest civilization.

Proud to be Indian

这是我们最伟大最古老的文明。

为自己是印度人而自豪

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