Are the Chinese people losing their natural humility and turning arrogant?
Sam Arora, Life long student of Chinese history, culture, food, arts
Yes, of course, they are:
Are the Chinese people losing their natural humility and turning arrogant?
As China is rising and becoming more powerful so is the arrogance coefficient of the younger generation.
My wife and I have visited China several times, please do this test, please observe.
- One tour guide which is about 45 years old and the other say 25 years old.
- Now watch and record their demeanor and expressions.
1.A typical 45 years old will give a straightforward history of China
2.He/She will talk about hard work of his father/mother, trading eggs for rice to provide a bit of protein to the kids.
3.He/She will be humble throughout the presentation, at sometimes your heart will break to pieces with stories of their sufferings.
4.He/she will never mention even word of arrogance
5.Now see the presentation of 25 years old, full of false air, as if China is going to rule the world soon.
6.No humbleness, in fact at the time this person kept on mentioning, American Presidents come here to beg for more loans.
7.You give this person a compliment that China is rising, arrogantly he/she would say, well we are already ahead of the USA in most of the areas.
译文来源：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/48584.html 译者：Joyceliu
I went to grad school with a few Chinese in the late 70 s all were down to earth. They never uttered a word which will show of arrogance.
1.Now I deal with a substantial number of Chinese students; fair amount drops out the courses. Return home without a degree/diploma. All due to arrogance pumping their ego that education in Canada/USA is elementary. They can ace without putting much work, and some put their tails between the legs and disappear in the darkness of the night.
2.In olden times, I never have seen or heard even one Chinese person quit the course, or he/she was shown the existing gate.
3.Some Chinese student coming from the ultra-rich background, show off with a new car/living in a very upscale high-end condominium.
4.In olden times Chinese students mostly were the grad student for master’s degree or Ph.D. a real killing machine. Now, these North American universities are hungry for money, everyone who could spell their name is welcome (Just kidding), marginal students undergrad get the acceptance.
One Chinese undergrad student will brag about his computer skills, and high grades, later on, I found out. The guy was under investigation for sending someone else to write his exams, and he was caught.
1.In olden times it was next to impossible, are Chinese getting arrogance and false pride, yes it is on the rise.
2.I have seen the Chinese girls thoroughly stoned and falling in the street, and I have seen them doing a whole lot of other things too. I know they want to be now they want to be part of the crowd. In olden times, it was not going to happen, but times have changed. I am very sure most of the Chinese girl, come in the Western world for higher education and are focused, however, the general impression among the white kids is different. Maybe it is true or false or fiction or exaggerated, one thing which is very apparent that on the streets of university towns, the Chinese girls are into white boys. The general impression is these girls come from low-income families, rural areas of China and very low self-esteem still believe what they see on T.V. life of cream, honey, and bed of roses. The reality is different most of these boys are looking for an easy target. Usually, these boys are from the lower rung of the hierarchy, generally with low self-esteem and a very low probability of success with their kind, Now let us leave this at this stage, rather than going too numerous and more details.
However, if it is any consolation, the Chinese are still ahead of anyone else, in humility/politeness/respect for teachers/elders.
Having said that with declining standards of manners/respect/ethics/co ption/selfishness, the Chinese are still okay. But with the new era that blind faith is gone, now as property managers, we cannot depend on the previous impressions of the Chinese students.
BTW: I worked in the Canadian corporate world for 30 years, and then I went into my self-employment we manage an excellent size students rental portfolio. I am Indo Canadian citizen of Canada; soon we are here for fifty years.
I am a lifelong student of Chinese culture/wisdom/civilization, and I have learned a lot from the Chinese.
Tom McGregor, I lived in Beijing since Oct. 2010
Perhaps many Chinese are gaining more self-confidence when talking to non-Chinese people. They have improved their English-language speaking skills and feel more emboldened to express their real thoughts and feelings with others.
Sometimes when people gain confidence in themselves they can at times appear arrogant, since a passive humble person suddenly conveying more aggressive behavior would surprise people. Additionally, the Chinese are beginning to write their own comments in English on many Social Media sites.
They feel compelled to do so, since many Chinese have patriotic sentiments and wish to defend or explain their country to the world at large. Many Westerners hold grave misunderstandings about the nation and the Chinese wish to set the record straight.
But of course, you will come a cross a few Chinese who are arrogant, since you can find ego-maniacs in every nation and culture, which is just human nature. But I’m a US citizen and many Americans have earned notoriety for our displays of arrogance. So we would be hypocritical for criticizing the Chinese over this matter.
In regards to the Chinese supposedly having a natural humility, well that stems from their deep respect for Chinese traditional culture, Confucianism and reverence for education. By striving for wisdom you must have the humility to understand you don’t know what you don’t know, as the Greek philosopher Socrates would often say.
Let’s take a closer like at Chinese values that encourages a spirit of humility. Forbes magazine had posted an article about the concept of “humility” in Chinese business culture
Forbes reports that:
“While being humble is not a characteristic added to the resumes of most top execs elsewhere in the world, it is critical for newcomers to China. A humble mind-set allows you to admit to your novice status as a China hand and thus take the steps necessary to make up for your knowledge gaps, namely by hiring or partnering with true China experts and relying on them. That mind-set will make it easy to adapt the company or your operations in the many ways in which it should be "China-fied," including perhaps paying yearly employee salaries in 13 or 14 monthly increments (to follow the custom of paying an extra one-to-two-months' worth of salary at Chinese New Year), giving promotions to several star employees at the same time.”
Even though many Chinese are taught the importance of showing humility in public, it’s just like everyone else, they sometimes forget to follow the customs they had learned from their elders.
This is not the fault of society, because nobody is perfect and we do make mistakes in our lives. We have strengths in our character along with weaknesses. For instance, I may have some humility in my heart, but as I reflect on some of my past actions, I regret to say I should have acted in a more courageous manner at times. I made some errors in judgement that came about due to cowardice on my part.
Yet, we should strive to make ourselves better for each and every day. If you have arrogance, then work on your humility.
Tong Zou, Born in China
I think so. Just take a look at the answers on Quora by Chinese people versus the answers by Korean/Japanese people. See the difference? Korean/Japanese people while they have pride in their country, they don’t go to lengths to say that their country is the best or better than other countries.
Now when you look at Chinese people’s answers, you always see something like China is the most beautiful country. We have the best food. We have the most beautiful women. We have the most history out of any country. Other Asian countries just stole our culture we are the original etc
Does that sound humble to you?
Its not that I'm anti chinese or pro korean like some people think. I look at things objectively and from personal experience. Since I have both many Korean and Chinese friends I can say that the number of Chinese nationalists far outnumber the number of Korean nationalists. I've never heard Korean women claim they are the prettiest and then proceed to talk bad about Chinese women but I've heard many Chinese women brag about their race and then proceed to talk negative things about Korean women. Why? What did they ever do to them I have no idea. Even they've never gone to Korea they speak generalizations about Koreans all the time. Again have not heard this from my Korean friends. Koreans have pride in their country (as all countries citizens should) but they don't brag about being the best or prettiest at anything. Nor do they make massive generalizations about other countries or races. Only Chinese and Americans do that from my experience and thats because their size and power has led them to become arrogant and somewhat brainwashed.
Adam Fayed, Founder of Global Online Financial Advisory Firm
Tong’s answer below is absolutely right. But as he shows, it isn't all Chinese people, as he himself is Chinese and I have several really nice Chinese friends and business associates.
It is the general trend though. When I first visited China in 2007, most people were really quiet nice to foreigners.
I remember telling my family and friends that. When I came back in 2009, I did notice changing attitudes to the outside world and the West due to the Global Financial Crisis that came from the US originally and the 2008 Beijing Games.
Most people were still quite nice. Even in 2011, when I first lived in China, things were OK.
Gradually, however, things have gotten quite nationalistic. As Tong said, you only have to read the comments on Quora.
Mo Chen, lives in China (1989-present)
“The Chinese are humble.” => *Buzz* Wrong.
“It is Chinese traditional value to try to be humble.” => Correct!
The Chinese are, by nature, prone to being arrogant just like any other people in this world. If not even more so.
Again, a metaphor for why traditional Chinese values put emphasis on being humble - have you ever seen a doctor prescribe hardcore drug to a perfectly healthy patient?
(By the way I believe most social values in the world teaches people to be humble..)
Xiang Qiu, Hedge Fund Quant (2018-present)
Natural humility. Yup, I am genetically predisposed to be humble. It’s like black people naturally like watermelon and chicken. I prefer watermelons over being modest though.
Caleb A Norris, studied at North Carolina State Wolfpack
Oh yeah you bet. And that arrogance is what's going to lead to the next century of humiliation if they aren't careful.
I'm sure the Chinese don't want another treaty of Nanking humiliating then again.
The higher the ego, the harder it falls.