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如何终结印度的种姓歧视

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Right now, I’d die for a ONE WAY et route from my “lower” caste. I wish there was a provision to file for such a move to the willing, by the go nment. They could ask my accomplishments, current status (or whatever) and decide based on that. Instead of entirely hating caste sy em (which for whatever reason was created by our ancestors), why not embrace it and make it better? Do not have reservations in the high priority positions. That would be an added advantage for all the “higher” caste people and those who are willing to take such a route. Considering the current situation of India, I don’t think that caste can be scrapped away. It is deep roed in the society. I don’t mind any other variant of this provision; PLEASE just give it to me now! Such an et route would be a boon to me. It would be a recognized achievement that I have overcome my backwardness. (Just like when you improve your credit score)

现在,我太希望摆脱我的“低”种姓身份了。我希望政府有相应的规定,可以据此提交民意申请。他们可以问我的成就,现状(或其他),然后据此做出决定。与其憎恨种姓制度(无论出于何种原因,它是由我们的祖先创造的),为什么不拥抱它,让它变得更好呢?对高级别职位不能用预留制。这会让“高”种姓人以及那些支持种姓的人增加额外的优势。考虑到印度的现状,我不认为种姓制度可以马上得到废除。它在社会中根深蒂固。我不介意对这一规定进行调整;现在就开始做吧!废除种姓对我来说是件好事。我摆脱了自己的桎梏,取得了被人认可的成就。(就像你提高信用分数一样)

There are people trying to move abroad in order to avoid caste issues in India.

1.Those who belong to the supposed “higher castes”, because of reservations. I understand this completely as some people really take advantage of reservations.

2.Those who belong to the “lower castes”, so that they do not feel discriminated.

为了逃避印度的种姓问题,有些人试图移居国外。

1。那些本属于“高种姓”的人因为预留制离开。我完全理解这一点,因为有些人确实利用了预留制。

2。那些属于“低种姓”的人也离开了,这样才不会遭受歧视。

I’m 28 and I belong to a “lower caste”. My parents never mentioned any such thing as “caste” to me until it was asked in an application form after class 12. For that, I am super proud of them. I feel that’s a lot more forward thinking than all the other castes out there(yes offence, because you guys are taught about your caste from the day you are born). When they first told me that we belong to a “lower” caste for the form, it was just unbelievable. I prested. Not because we were having a decent middle class life; not because of the caste based po itics happening in India which I did not even know about at that age. The feeling of being lesser than somebody else, was something I never felt before and I could not digest it. My then best friend in school laughed at me when I told him about this (I’m still friends with him but, I hated that moment). Nevertheless, I put my real caste down in the application.

我今年28岁,属于“低种姓”。我的父母从来没有对我提起过“种姓”之类的事情,直到我升到12年级后的申请表上,他们被问到这个问题。为此,我为他们感到骄傲。我觉得这比其他所有种姓都要超前得多(是的,冒犯你了,因为从你出生的那天起,你们就被教导要了解自己的种姓)。当他们第一次告诉我我们属于“低”种姓时,简直难以置信。我很抗拒。不是因为我们拥有了体面的中产阶级生活;不是因为印度社会以种姓为基础的政治局势,我当时压根也不懂。而是那种我以前从未了解过的,我无法消化的低人一等的感觉。当我把这件事告诉我在学校的最好的朋友时,他嘲笑了我(我和他现在仍是朋友,但我讨厌那个时刻)。尽管如此,我还是把我的真实身份写进了申请表。

I thus used my caste once (completely legally) in my lifetime for a reservation and have always regretted it. I have made a wonderful career for myself. I could argue that I would have done well even though I did not use my caste. All I can say for sure is, my educational achievements have been on par with my peers. I could still be where I am now without reservation. Someone really in need might have used it. (If only I had known this during the time of decision making!)

I’m a relationship person. I lost 2 wonderful women from having them in my life because of my caste. The first relationship went for 8 years. God bless my mom’s heart; both for accepting my first love and at the end of it all, saying, “don’t force her, it’s very hard for them to accept us”.

因此,在我的一生中,我(完全合法地)使用我的种姓获得了预留席位,并且一直为此感到后悔。我为自己创造了一个美好的事业。我可以说,即使我没有使用我的种姓,我也会做得很好。我能肯定的是,我的教育成就与同龄人相当。没有预留制,我也一样能达到现在的成就。真该让真的需要预留制的人使用这个机会。(如果我在做决定的那时就知道这一点该多好)

我是个感情专一的人。因为我的种姓,我失去了两个很棒的女人。第一段恋情持续了8年。希望神能保佑我妈妈的心脏;感谢她接受了我的初恋,并在最后说:“不要强迫她,他们很难接受我们。”

The second one didn’t even start. I first confirmed her caste (today), just in case. It just feels so sick. This label will remain stuck to me throughout my life, doesn’t matter IF I USE IT OR NOT.

You could say I’m feeling this now “just because I want to marry someone in the higher caste”. I’d say, it’s not “just” marriage. I’d love to have a wonderful partner for myself. Someone whom I know and love to spend time with. Women around me have made more than 50% of my life until now. As I move further, I’d like to have someone whose personality is attractive to me and fits (not matches) with mine. I am not comfortable with the idea of an arranged marriage. Shaadi.com is just an Indian version of “tinder on steroids” to me. (I do NOT say they are bad, this is just my preference).

第二段恋情甚至都还没有真的开始。为了以防万一,今天我先弄清了她的种姓。这种感觉很不舒服。这个种姓标签会在我的一生中紧紧粘在我身上,不管我是否会用上。

你可以说我现在有这种感觉“仅仅是因为我想嫁给更高种姓的人”。我得说,这不仅仅是婚姻。我想给自己找个好配偶。一个我认识的、喜欢和他在一起的人。到目前为止,我身边的女性已经占据了我生活的50%以上。我希望能有一个个性能够吸引我,并适合(而不是匹配)我。我不喜欢包办婚姻。在我看来,Shaadi.com只是印度版的“tinder on steroids”。(我不是说它们不好,这只是我的个人偏好)。

I am currently in the US, working at an zing place, in a job I have always dreamt of. It is hard to find love while satisfying the criteria of caste in a place like this. There are barely any people belonging to my caste here. I feel so lonely without a partner (especially after my breakup). Asking around for caste first is the sickest thing one could do. Yet, it is so important.

我目前在美国,在一个很棒的地方工作,做一份我一直梦想的工作。在这样一个地方,很难找到一份满足种姓标准的爱情。这里几乎没有跟我相同种姓的人。没有伴侣我感到很孤独(尤其是分手后)。一开始就打听种姓,是最最恶心的事情。但这却是如此重要。

 

Saurabh Shubham, studied at Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee

Originally Answered: How can caste sy em be abolished in India?

One possible solution could be having name without surnames.

Look at my name, you don’t get to know which caste do I belong to. Thus, you are not going to judge me for the caste which I am from, there will be no sense of superiority or inferiority in your mind regarding me.

Other thing that can be done is abolishing all kind of benefit that people get from being of a particular caste.

最初的答案是:种姓制度如何在印度被废除?

一种可行的解决办法是把名字里的姓氏去除。

看看我的名字,你根本不知道我属于哪个种姓。因此,你不会因为我是某个种姓的人来评价我,你不会对我有优越感或自卑感。

可以做的另一件事是废除人们从特定种姓中获得的所有福利。

Why do only Brahmins get to become priests in temple? Or why do SCs and STs get reservation in go nment colleges and jobs? If there will be no benefit of being from a particular caste, no one is going to give importance to it, it will lose its importance and hence vanish.

On the other hand, we should also acknowledge that any harsh measure to abolish caste sy em can lead to a full-fledged revo tion which can be harmful for our society.

为什么只有婆罗门才能成为寺庙里的祭司?或者为什么SCs和STs能获得预留的政府大学和工作?如果某个种姓没有任何好处,没有人会重视它,它就会失去它的重要性,从而消失。

另一方面,我们也应该承认,任何废除种姓制度的严厉措施都可能导致全面的革命,这可能对我们的社会有害。

 

Ashwini RM, India, My country :)

Backward Classes were treated very badly in India. They suffered a lot before independence. They were untouchable.

So the rules were made to uplift them financially and socially.

If they are in good jobs they earn well and people will respect them. That was the idea. But they also set an end to it. Rules say once they overcome their inabilities, they should be no reservation.

You know India would be developed country if every Indian follows it. But hardly anybody does.

And Most of the SC and ST people don't even know they have all these facilities. Their condition is still same in villages. So we haven't achieved that in 70 years.

落后的阶级在印度处境险恶。他们在独立前受了很多苦。他们是不能触碰的贱民。

所以制定这些规则是为了在经济上和社会上提高他们的地位。

如果他们获得好工作,收入多了,人们就会尊重他们。这就是最初的想法。但他们也为它画上了句号。规则规定,一旦他们克服了自己能力不足的情况,就应该取消预留制。

你知道,如果每个印度人都同心协力,印度就会成为发达国家。但几乎没有人这么做。

大多数SC和ST的人甚至不知道他们有这些福利。在农村,他们的情况还是没有改善。所以我们过了70年还没有实现。

 

Anil Chouhan, Born Indian, raised human and feels like world citizen.

Cast your ve and don't ve your caste.

Go nment is unlikely to destroy the caste sy em. Throughout history and across the world 'power is gained by dividing the people' whether it be in the name of caste or any other divide.

Remember the Berlin Wall was not broken by the go nment and po iticians like Lalu Yadav, Raj Thackeray and Mayavati are created by people precting or voting their caste.

Secondly, we should understand that the caste sy em was never to be bad on 'birth' but be determined by 'merit' much like a doctor treating you is a doctor regardless of the caste he was born in.

The only thing that has worked as a natural force is 'people drop the divide' and being human. Until we the people allow the divide that favors us, the po iticians will leverage it to divide and conquer. Only love for humanity and progress and not psychosis of survival or fear can bring equality.

投出你的选票,不要投你的种姓。

政府不太可能摧毁种姓制度。纵观历史,纵观世界,“权力是通过分裂人民而获得的”,无论是以种姓的名义还是以其他任何形式。

记住,柏林墙不是被政府打破的,拉鲁·亚达夫、拉杰·萨克雷和玛雅瓦蒂等政治家是由保护或投票给自己种姓的人创建的。

其次,我们应该明白,种姓制度提出伊始绝无恶意,而是由‘才能’决定的,就像治疗你的医生就是医生一样,不管他出身哪个种姓。

唯一起作用的自然力量是“人民不再分裂”。除非我们人民允许有利于我们的分裂,否则政客们将利用它来分裂和征服。只有对人类和进步的爱而非对生存或恐惧的精神错乱才能带来平等。

 

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