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印度人热议小米2代智能机

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小米科技公司推出小米2代智能机,意在挑战苹果iphone手机。小米2代智能机是小米1代智能机的后续产品,设计规格高端,超过了iphone 4s的规格,而价格大约只有后者的一半(310美元)。小米科技由雷军于2010年创立,在2011年9月推出了低成本智能机。该公司也开发了基于安卓的MIUI系统。小米2代手机屏幕4.3英寸342PPI,分辨率1280X720,四核处理器,高通28纳米工艺APQ8064四核1.5GHz处理器,800万像素主摄像头,200万像素前置摄像头。

原文标题:This Chinese phone threatens to beat the iPhone!
原文链接:http://www.rediff.com/business/slide-show/slide-show-1-tech-how-this-chinese-phone-threatnens-to-beat-iphone/20120817.htm

小米2代手机、小米m2手机

A Chinese company has launched a smartphone called Xiaomi Phone 2 which is set to challenge the Apple iPhone.

The phone, a successor to Xiaomi Technology’s popular MiOne smartphone has top-end specifications exceeding those of the iPhone 4S – at around half the price ($310.)

Xiaomi Technology founded by Lei Jun in 2010 has unveiled a low cost smartphone in September 2011.

The company also developed MIUI, a custom firmware for mobile phones, which based on Android.

小米科技公司推出小米2代智能机,意在挑战苹果iphone手机。小米2代智能机是小米1代智能机的后续产品,设计规格高端,超过了iphone 4s的规格,而价格大约只有后者的一半(310美元)。

小米科技由雷军于2010年创立,在2011年9月推出了低成本智能机。该公司也开发了基于安卓的MIUI系统。

The phone will have a a 4.3 inch 720p IPS display and a quad core Qualcomm processor. It will be powered by an APQ8064, a quad core 28 nm SoC solution at 1.5 GHz.

The 4.3 inch display will have a pixel density of 342 PPI. An 8 megapixel camera with backside illuminated sensor sits at the back and a two megapixel shooter is present at the front.

Lei Jun, founder and CEO of China’s mobile company Xiaomi, presents the new Xiaomi Phone 2 at its launch ceremony in Beijing.

小米2代手机屏幕4.3英寸342PPI,分辨率1280X720,高通28纳米工艺APQ8064四核1.5GHz处理器,800万像素主摄像头,200万像素前置摄像头。

小米公司的创始人和CEO雷军出席了小米2代智能机在北京的发布仪式。

以下是印度网民的评论:

what about
by Devendra Shankar Chipte (View MyPage) on Aug 18, 2012 07:47 AM | Hide replies

and what about warranty after paying $310. Also it makes more sense holding nokia 3310 or any other branded phone in hand other then china phone

花了310美元,那保质期如何。此外,拿着诺基亚3310手机或者其他品牌手机比拿着中国手机还更有意义。

Re: what about
by LaX Ray (View MyPage) on Aug 19, 2012 02:22 PM
dear, China is the strongest economy. Entire world runs on products manufactured in China. Wake up

亲爱的,中国是最强大的经济体。整个世界依靠中国生产的产品过日子,醒醒吧。

Re: what about
by dear kan (View MyPage) on Aug 19, 2012 08:42 AM
I fully agree. Better purchase a third class phone of indian make than investing a dollar on a china phone.

完全同意,买三流印度手机比花钱买中国手机更好。

Another Copy Cat product
by Srinivasan Ashok (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 11:31 PM

This may succeed in China. Outside China, Apple and Samsung dominate with their product.

又一个山寨产品

小米手机可能在中国成功。在中国之外,苹果和三星会占统治地位。

Guys wake up call…
by dheeraj wadhawan (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 08:16 PM | Hide replies

It looks like we are more interested in criticizing rather than coming to the terms that China has come up to the World level stage. Today 15 out of 20 fast developing Mega Cities around the world are from China. Guys am definitely not a supporter of China but we should not just close our eyes in the belief that nothing would happen and we are all secure. We really need to work hard to live in this competitive world. Jai Hind

看起来我们对批评别人更有兴趣,没有意识到中国已经跻身世界级舞台。当今世界发展最快的20个超级大都市中,有15个来自中国。各位肯定不是中国的支持者,但我们不应该闭上眼睛相信什么事情也不会发生,不应该盲信我们都安全。我们真的需要更努力工作,以便更好地生活在竞争激烈的世界中。胜利属于印度

Re: Guys wake up call…
by dear kan (View MyPage) on Aug 19, 2012 08:44 AM
I appreciate your view friend. U R correct. Also we should not support the third class produce from china.

朋友,我赞成你的观点,你说得对。此外,我们不应该支持中国的三流产品。

I would buy it for $50
by hyd (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 06:28 PM | Hide replies

$310 is too much for a chinese phone, as they dont invent new phone, they must have stolen some parts from other phone and made this one

50美元卖给我还差不多

310美元对于中国手机来说太多了。他们没有发明新手机,肯定是从其他手机偷来一些零件,然后捣鼓出这个手机。

they are good at copy paste
by hyd (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 06:27 PM

must have stolen some technology from various phones, as all major phones are manufactured in china, and made a new one, hope they will give support for the phone.

他们擅长“复制粘贴”

所有主流手机都在中国生产,他们肯定从不同的手机偷来了一些技术,希望他们也能为手机提供售后支持

amazing !!!!
by ninja (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 06:18 PM | Hide replies

even though it is copy paste of Apple, it is really amazing how such local brands are taking on heavily world’s biggest brand. India has no a single domestic brand in any electronic sector who can compete on the international level.

令人吃惊!

虽然是山寨苹果的手机,不过令人吃惊地是中国本土品牌挑战世界最大品牌。印度在电子领域没有任何单一本土品牌可以在国际舞台上竞争。

Re: amazing !!!!
by hyd (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 06:25 PM
we have corrupt politicians, who can compete in olympics for corruption, and get 100 gold medals

我们有能角逐奥运腐败比赛的腐败政客,能拿100枚金牌

Re: Re: amazing !!!!
by Mathew Mathews (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 08:35 PM
A typical response from guys who havent the initiative to overcome odds and be successful. Always have some one to blame for failures.Every country has problems and its not easy to succeed. It needs ideas. perseverance and commitment. One shouldnt waver from the goal.

不会主动克服困难并追求成功的人的典型回复。总是把失败归咎于别人。每个国家有各自问题,要解决这些困难是不简单的,需要创意、毅力和承诺。不应该偏离目标。

Re: Re: Re: amazing !!!!
by Ajay (View MyPage) on Aug 18, 2012 04:56 AM
Agree with you. We seem to be too good in giving wrong reasons to deviate the issue. Corruption has nothing to do with technology or Olympics. Some one had hundred reasons why India did not win any gold.

同意,我们似乎过于擅长用错误的理由来偏离问题本身。腐败和技术或者奥运会没有任何关系。有些人会为印度没有获得一枚金牌给出一百个理由。

Paid article
by Parthsarthy (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 06:04 PM | Hide replies

Everybody knows all products coming out of Chinese factories are nothing but scrap,as far as as technical innovation and performance is concerned China can not compete with Western world not even India. seems some one has paid rediff to publish this article

大家知道中国工厂生产出来的所有产品都是废品。就技术创新和性能而言,中国无法和西方世界竞争,连印度也不能。似乎有人花钱让rediff发表这篇文章。

原创翻译:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com

Security at risk
by muralikrishna kota (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 05:23 PM | Hide replies

I feel chinese are trying to force their products into market wit low cost and it may be real security risk. These people are eyeing to be superpower in near future and communication snags can jhelp them. be ceareful

我认为中国人试图凭借低成本将产品强行推入市场,可能会面临真正的安全风险。这些人旨在不久的未来成为超级大国,交流障碍可能会帮助他们,小心

Chinese phone
by milind joshi (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 05:18 PM | Hide replies

We are looking at chinese electronic products as cheap and low quality products. It will be interesting to see how Indians react to this phone.

我们把中国电子产品看做是廉价低质货。看到印度人如何评价这部手机会很有趣。

Re: Chinese phone
by XianYe (View MyPage) on Aug 18, 2012 07:47 AM
pity this phone is not coming to India。europeans are trying to make the company sell its phones in the EU next year。it would be really interesting to see how Indians react to the amazing experience of using the phone。

遗憾,这部手机不会在印度推出。欧洲人正努力让小米公司明年在欧洲开卖。使用这部手机能给人带来令人吃惊的体验,看到印度人如何评价会是真正有趣的。

..
by om shanti (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 05:04 PM | Hide replies

Yesterday,I saw an 80 year old Chinese granny in a bullet train playing cards and reading novel in an ipad.She was travelling alone from Beijing.I was amazed and thought whether our Indian grannies so gazette friendly ??

昨天,我在高速火车上看到一名80岁的中国老奶奶在ipad上打牌和看小说。她独自从北京出发旅行。我很惊讶,在想我们的印度老奶奶是否能如此…

Chinese I phone
by niki surabi (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 04:57 PM | Hide replies

Great looks but pure TRASH with in a week’s use.
If you are lucky, it may operate for a month

外观很棒,但纯粹是垃圾,只能用一个星期。

如果幸运的话,可能可以用一个月。

Re: Chinese I phone
by mahesh joshi (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 05:03 PM
boss, why is it so? bcos “made in china”?, have u tried that phone?
for ur info,all apple products are ” made in china” and see how they are selling

老板,为什么会这样?就因为是“中国制造”?你有试过那部手机吗?供你参考,所有苹果产品是“中国制造”,看看他们卖得多火…

Re: Re: Chinese I phone
by Chakravarthi Srinivasan (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 05:14 PM
You are mistaken. What riki Surabi has mentioned is product made in China by a Chinese company.

你搞错了。riki Surabi所指的是中国公司在中国生产的产品。

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by om shanti (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 04:48 PM | Hide replies

Chinese HTC sensation and other models of HTC are also better than iphone.

中国人的HTC引起轰动,还有HTC其他型号产品也比iphone更好

Re: ..
by Ninad Dalal (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 06:13 PM
HTC is Taiwanese … there is a big difference in work culture … but I agree with you, there are lot of Chinese company producing quality product, it dosent matter if it is made under supervision of Taiwanese / japanese or European companies.

HTC是台湾公司…工作文化差很大…不过有一点我同意,即许多中国公司生产优质产品,如果有台湾公司、日本公司或者欧洲公司把关质量,那么就没关系。

One more chinese kachra
by SHS (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 04:47 PM

One more chinese garbage

又一个中国垃圾

Little Rice。。。nice
by XianYe (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 03:49 PM | Hide replies

I for one am gonna get hold of an Mi 2 when it becomes available in October。The user experience is better than the iphone 4。Xiaomi(little rice)will sell at least 10 million phones within 12 months after launch。The company,setup a mere 2 years ago,is already worth billions of dollars judging by the last round of fund raising. The company‘s products are becoming a personal cult in a fast changing market。

就个人而言,等10月上市后,我打算买一部Mi2手机。该手机的用户体验比iphone4更好。小米推出后12个月内,至少能卖1000万部。小米公司两年前才成立,截止上一轮融资后,已经价值数亿美元。在快速变化的市场中,小米公司的产品正成为个人崇拜的产品。

Result of making China manufacturing hub……
by anand van (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:46 PM

I-phones are made in China which not only gave the Chinese the inspiration but also the training and talent improvement to try out their own.

iphone在中国生产的结果,不仅给了中国人灵感,还提高了中国人的技能水平,从而试验出了自己的手机。

Only China can Beat USA and other western country
by TZ (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:34 PM

only China is the only country who can beat these western product, they are self dependent unlike other asian country, they are making good product over years, and its US policy to produce them as low quality….how many of us can afford apple iPhone? but if they are selling in half of the price then many will go and buy it.

只有中国才能打败美国和其他西方国家。

只有中国产品才能打败西方产品。不像其他亚洲国家,中国依靠自己,多年来生产优质产品,低质廉价生产这些产品是美国的政策…我们中有多少人买得起iphone?但如果以一半的价格出售,那么许多人会蜂拥购买。

dsfs
by Arun Premraj (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:26 PM | Hide replies

in india we can only make rubbish sequels to already bad movies

在印度,我们只会拍一些已经烂透电影的续集。

Re: dsfs
by TZ (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:38 PM
right, we have no guts to manufacture our own product. we dont have any Indian phone…

对,我们没有勇气生产自己的产品。我们没有任何印度手机…

Good Phone
by Deepak Chawla (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:11 PM | Hide replies

This looks as a very good phone with excellent features … I wonder where is it available in India

看起来像是一部拥有很棒功能的优质手机…我想知道印度哪里可以买到

COPY PASTE
by Naveen yadav (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:11 PM | Hide replies

The top company’s spending billions in R&D for developing new versions that the reason those prices are high, these Chinese will make the copy of that product and sell it cheaply.
they are hammering the market

苹果公司在研发新产品上花了数亿美元,所以价格会高。这些中国人会山寨苹果产品,然后便宜开卖。他们是在打压市场…

Re: COPY PASTE
by Paresh Rege (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:23 PM
Not really.
The prices are high only because the profit margins are very high and the profit margins are very high because there is no competition. We all know what Chinese do but it will certainly make Apple products cheaper for us.

不见得

价格高是因为利润非常大,利润非常大是因为不存在竞争。我们知道中国人在做什么,随之而来的肯定是苹果产品会更便宜。

It is all a
by Sunil Kumar (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:58 PM

It is all a matter of currency conversion…. if not, the phone would be much more expensive than those available in the market. I hope some day soon all currencies in the world have same value in comparison to one another.

一切都是货币汇率的问题…否则,市场上的这种手机会贵得多。我希望不久的将来,世界上各种货币的币值一样。

Chinese
by prashanth (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:55 PM | Hide replies

These days the word “chinese” has become synonym for low quality.

这些天,“中国人”这个词成为了低质的同义词。

Re: Chinese
by sudhir dhar (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:01 PM
Correction : NOT THESE DAYS..it always synonym for BAD QUALITY.

Never trust a Chinese product or a person !! Even the Chinese don’t.

纠正:不是这些天,“中国人”一直是低质的代名词。

永远不要信任中国货或者中国人!连中国人都不相信

Re: Re: Chinese
by anto (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 03:11 PM
Yaa….those low quality Chinese products won 37 golds in Olympics and How much our high quality products managed to win???…Do you know how many patents Chinese own & how many we own???..Do you know the life expectancy of Chinese is 75 years and ours is 65!!!

那些低质中国产品在奥运会获得37枚金牌,我们高质产品获得了多少枚?你知道中国人拥有多少专利吗,知道我们拥有多少专利吗?你知道吗,中国人的平均寿命是75岁,而我们只有65岁!

If it hasn’t got
by Amit Sharma (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:40 PM | Hide replies

If it hasn’t got Gorilla glass avoid it like plague.

如果这部手机没有装上钢化玻璃,那么就像避瘟疫一样避开它吧。

(三泰虎注:怕爆?)

Re: If it hasn’t got
by M (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:54 PM
Absolutely Right ! Its THE IMPORTANT!

完全正确!这个非常重要!

avoid/love
by achyuta reddy (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:37 PM | Hide replies

AVOID CHINA PHONES BUT LOVE CHINESE GIRLS…THEY R PRETTY..RIGHT

避开中国手机,但喜欢中国女孩…她们长得漂亮…

Re: avoid/love
by sanjay sharma (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 02:38 PM
🙂 They are also cheaply availabel?????

🙂 她们也很便宜就可以得到?

China Phone
by basant kajaria (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:33 PM

They go for Quantity and not for QUALITY. Avoid Chinese make Mobile Phone

他们追求数量,不追求质量,避开中国制造的手机吧

友荐云推荐
      • 中国产品在海外声誉比较槽糕,起码我在的这个国家如此,我觉得很多中国商人无大志,都是抱着赚一笔就撤的心态,打游击战的心理,没有考虑什么时候打打阵地战,可能中国制造还是太弱小的原因吧,但中国制造在底层混了这么久,没想过升级吗?

        • 一分钱一分货呀,看看印度进口商来中国都进口些什么吧,在义乌,他们要的不是质量,而是便宜呀,有时就连最便宜的他们都嫌贵……
          ————————
          山寨机在中国也是成潮流了,你自己本国人都以用山寨为荣,还想别人不用吗?再说中国制造不是弱小,是太强大了,结果都成了人家的贴牌工厂,好不容易人家小米自己做个公司发展自己的民族品牌,向世界苹果发起冲击,结果还是给人这么贬低(苹果最开始也是从山寨及模仿起家的)……你说的中国产品在海外很糟糕,其实哪个地方没中国制造,那是因为中国货太多(有好有坏,可某些不好却被无限放大),没一样不是中国的,过度的泛滥,自然参差不齐,个人倒是建议可以把些低端的污染严重的取缔,转到其他发展中国家……
          其实转到印度倒是不错的

      • 能够来点新鲜的吗,三哥。在我们国内教的是要相信,难道在他们国家教的是如何猜疑别人,真是不懂三哥的思考方式。

    • 说到手机,我就有话说了,我做手机外贸的,上个星期正好接待了一个印度排名前10的运营商,他们订了一款机器,我们给个最后价格是10美刀,但是他们还价到9.5美刀,还要在12月内返修率小于5%,呵呵,这就是印度人,太搞笑了,用这个价格抱怨质量不好。

  1. 老实说,虽然知道印度人比较封闭,比较无知,但这篇文章实在太搞笑了,我怀疑他们是否理解什么叫智能机,哈哈哈哈,感谢你的文章,让我笑得很开心!

  2. 印度人的手机都是中国的山寨货吧….我见过报道.印度人的主流NOKIA手机.在中国卖150多块…..这就是印度人的购买能力吧….还不如中国的小学生…印度人的电话….真的只是…电话…

    • 在印度销售的大部分商品都是中国制造;最差的商品,利润最少,价格最便宜的是写中国制造;质量更好,利润更多,同样是中国制造但会贴上印度品牌,这就是印度骗子的做法;说印度制造比中国制造更好,不是无知就是骗子,只有少数诚实的在说真话。

  3. 小米的软文…这次真给力,发到rediff了啊…
    我指的是里面那个XianYe ,和小米过去在各网站的推广风格如出一辙 😕

  4. make in China在进步,之前买的海尔空调和海信LED 42吋都很不错。支持国产品牌,让他们有更多生存空间。我相信“create in China”的日子不远了。

    • 从严格意义上来讲,几乎没有不山寨的。山寨对中国的发展功不可没。随着发展,自然会有原创

  5. 过去30天,我仅仅才留言30条,
    虽然我依旧关注三泰虎,但是留言少了。
    支持虎哥,特地留言。
    谢谢,辛苦了。

  6. 我只是在想,希望印度人也能先弄出了大米手机什么的,再来说中国产品的坏话。
    就像一个不会走路的人,嘲笑别人跑步太慢一样。

  7. 米2确实是山寨,但山寨的不是IPHONE,而是同为国产的魅族MX。
    无论外形、界面还有超窄边框都是十足十的山寨。。。真让人失望。
    支持魅族,一个除了懂得拼硬件配置还懂得以音质、操作体验赢得用户的品牌才有生命力。
    但是印度人的评论真是太无知了,而且似乎不仅印度人对中国不了解,日韩美欧对中国人都有各种各样的偏见和成见。是别人的问题?还是我们的问题?值得思考。

  8. Chinese
    by prashanth (View MyPage) on Aug 17, 2012 01:55 PM | Hide replies

    These days the word “chinese” has become synonym for low quality.

    这些天,“中国人”这个词成为了低质的同义词。
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    !

    • 习惯就好了,因为强大所以贬低,这很正常,如果哪天三哥突然没来由的表扬中国,那我们就完了,得到三哥的认同等于我们比三哥还差 😉

  9. 中国当然不会和印度计较。他们重来没超过过我们。
    我们的发展还需要他们的市场赶超更发达的经济体,就像韩国借助中国市场赶超日本一样。

  10. 看了三哥的评论,感觉三哥永远不会赶超中国。他们是那么愚昧和落后,我们中国人虽然反日,但也会盛赞日本的技术和产品,因为他们比我们先进,而三哥看不到中国先进的一面,一味地在贬低对手中求得欣慰是失败者的做法。

  11. 谢谢三泰虎的辛苦工作。
    用小米的路过,很有中枪的感觉。个人觉得小米的性价比还是很不错的,现在唯一郁闷的是降价降的太快了……
    三哥的评论很正常,让人很放心。像发展工业制造业这种没意思的事,还是给中国吧,三哥没事就评论一下就好了。一分价钱一分货,三哥的价钱也只能用国产的垃圾。
    支持国货。另外,中国女人也很中枪,死三哥,你家女人才便宜,中国女人不是物质产品,是人!!说了你们也不懂。你们好好糟蹋三嫂就行了。没事就意淫中国女人,真恶心!身边的妹子都知道,离三哥要远一点。三哥在这方面没有进化好,动不动就兽化。

  12. 小米这种档次的手机很难进入印度。中国在印度最响亮的牌子是基伍(G’five),好像一度市场份额前两名。基伍在伊朗出的GLX好像也很牛。基伍好像也要上智能机了。国内反倒几乎没有听说过。

    引段天涯的:“据印度市场研究公司估算,基伍2010年在印度市场出货量可能高达3500万台,占有率21%,遥遥领先排名第二、占有率13%的诺基亚。调研公司的出货数据亦证实了这一点-基伍品牌手机连续两个季度跻身全球手机业的前十。取得这样的成绩,诺基亚花费10年,三星为6年,基伍仅用了2年。”

  13. 中国公司的营销忽悠手段出神入化,这都是拜屎玉柱所赐.不怎么注重产品品质,但营销绝对一流.
    印度现在的市场,购买力处在不是很注重质量但又有需求的阶段,真是中国的这类公司大显身手的时候.

  14. 看到这个帖子,我想笑,又想哭。让我想起个笑话来:从前,有个人拿了匹布到裁缝那里去做帽子,问:“做一顶帽子够了吗?”裁缝告诉他可以。接着他问:“做两顶够吗?”裁缝回答他是可以的。直到问他做十顶,裁缝回答他还是可以的。那人高兴极了,以为这回便宜大了。等他来拿货的时候,他傻眼了,这十顶帽子只够套在手指上玩。一分价一分货,欧洲人要的是第一种中国货,印度人要了最后一种。阿三们,别嘲笑中国货了,该指责的是你们的采购商们,是他们欺骗了你们!

  15. 有兴趣的去查下,小米手机里的部件,除了外壳,几乎没一个国产的,现在的智能手机,硬要扯上国产的话就是台湾还能产几个部件。

    • 确实是这样:
      国内的生产商都是采用美国高通和台湾联发科的核心芯片
      以及一些小日本和台湾的次要芯片和其他的零件生产的
      手机的软件都是开源的免费安卓系统
      手机的核心软件都是芯片商集成好的
      生产商都是拿过来搭配下就好了
      所以生产智能手机也不是很难的
      关键是生产商的生产质量稳定性和一些特色功能的开发能力
      所以我们也要实事求是的看待我们世界工厂到底有没有内在核心实力???
      不要被表面的一些繁荣迷惑
      实际还是给欧美打工!!!

  16. They go for Quantity and not for QUALITY. Avoid Chinese make Mobile Phone说得对,我们从来不追求质量,这也是为什么中国货成为山寨和价廉物差的代名词

  17. 一大群用手擦屁股的留着哈喇子的黑三还在意淫我们我们国家的女性?当他们面对时,几个小问题就把你问倒了:房子有吗?钞票有吗?车有吗?随便一个问题,黑三就死翘翘了