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引渡斯诺登是对其信任的辜负,将致香港形象严重受损

2013-06-18 01:04 29个评论 字号:

三泰虎6月18日译文,印度时报文章《中国媒体:引渡斯诺登将是”背叛“》。据报道,《环球时报》发表社论称,把前间谍斯诺登引渡回美国是对斯诺登信任的辜负。.社论称,跟普通刑事犯不一样,斯诺登没伤害任何人,他的“罪行”是揭发美国政府侵犯公民权利。如果香港将其引渡回美国,是对斯诺登信任的辜负,也是对世界舆论围绕香港各种期许的辜负。香港的形象将因此严重受损。社论还称,斯诺登相信香港的皿煮和自由。随着中国的力量越来越强大,会吸引一些人,他们会希望中国成为他们的庇护地

译文来源:三泰虎 http://bbs.santaihu.com/thread-6688-1-1.html
外文标题:Snowden extradition would be a ‘betrayal’: Chinese media
外文地址:http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/Snowden-extradition-would-be-a-betrayal-Chinese-media/articleshow/20625755.cms

香港千人游行声援斯诺登

香港千人游行声援斯诺登

BEIJING: A state-backed Chinese newspaper Monday said extraditing former spy Edward Snowden to the United States would be a “betrayal” of his trust and a “face-losing outcome” for Beijing.

The comments are among the strongest to be put forward by domestic media against extraditing Snowden, a former National Security Agency subcontractor who is hiding in Hong Kong.

北京:6月17日,一家受国家支持的中国报纸称,把前间谍斯诺登引渡回美国是对其信任的辜负,北京将会没面子。

在国内媒体反对引渡藏身香港的美国国家安全机构前雇员的声浪中,此番言论是最强烈的。

The US has launched a criminal investigation into Snowden after he exposed a massive Internet surveillance operation — including claims of hacking directed at China — amid tensions between Washington and Beijing over online espionage.

Beijing has been tightlipped on Snowden, with the foreign ministry saying last week it had “no information to offer”. But Chinese media have previously said Beijing should be governed by public opinion in refusing to send him back.

适逢华盛顿与北京就网络间谍而关系紧张之际,斯诺登揭发美国大规模的网络监视行动,其中包括针对中国的入侵,美国随后对他发起了刑事调查。

北京一直就斯诺登守口如瓶,中国外交部上周称“没有信息可提供”。然而,中国媒体早先称北京应该听从公众舆论,拒绝把他引渡回美国。

Monday’s Global Times editorial went into detail about the “face-losing outcome” for China if he was returned.

“Unlike a common criminal, Snowden did not hurt anybody. His ‘crime’ was that he blew the whistle on the US government’s violation of civil rights,” it said.

“Extraditing Snowden back to the US would not only be a betrayal of Snowden’s trust, but a disappointment for expectations around the world.

“The image of Hong Kong would be forever tarnished.”

《环球时报》17日的社论详细阐述了把他引渡回去后中国将会没面子。

社论称,跟普通刑事犯不一样,斯诺登没伤害任何人,他的“罪行”是揭发美国政府侵犯公民权利。

如果香港将其引渡回美国,是对斯诺登信任的辜负,也是对世界舆论围绕香港各种期许的辜负。香港的形象将因此严重受损。

The editorial also said that “Snowden believes in the democracy and freedom of Hong Kong,” adding: “China’s growing power is attracting people to seek asylum in China”.

China’s official army newspaper Sunday branded the surveillance programme exposed by Snowden as “frightening”.

The former spy has vowed to fight any attempt by the US to extradite him from Hong Kong, which retained a separate legal system when it returned to Chinese rule in 1997.

社论还称,斯诺登相信香港的皿煮和自由。随着中国的力量越来越强大,会吸引一些人,他们会希望中国成为他们的庇护地。

中国官方的军报16日用”可怕“来形容斯诺登揭露的美国监视计划。

斯诺登发誓坚决不服从美国将其从香港引渡回去的企图。1997年回归中国后,香港保留了独立的司法体系。

Half of Hong Kongers surveyed believe the city’s government should not extradite Snowden, according to a poll published on Sunday.

The poll in the Sunday Morning Post found 49.9 per cent of respondents thought Snowden should not be sent back if Washington files for extradition.

The survey found that only 17.6 per cent of 509 respondents favoured the move, while 32.4 per cent were undecided.

The survey was published a day after hundreds of people turned out in the territory on Saturday in the first major demonstration in support of Snowden.

根据香港《南华早报》的民调显示,半数香港人反对将斯诺登引渡回美国。49.9%的受访者表示,如果华盛顿提出引渡要求,香港政府不应当将其送回去。

调查发现509名受访者中仅有17.6%的人赞成这一行为,同时有32.4%的人拿不定主意。

这份调查公布的前一天,香港有数百人上街游行,首次对斯诺登表示了支持。

以下是印度网民的评论:

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rudiravi (Salem TN)
Unlike a common criminal, Snowden did not hurt anybody. His ‘crime’ was that he blew the whistle on the US government’s violation of civil rights,”… but crime is crime… Snowden must be punished
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跟普通刑事犯不一样,斯诺登没伤害任何人,他的“罪行”是揭发美国政府侵犯公民权利。

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犯罪就是犯罪,斯诺登必须受惩罚。

Suriyamoorthy Doraiswamy (Khandwa) replies to rudiravi
US Government did not violate its own law. Their actions in the matter were duly authorized by their own process of law.
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美国政府并未违反本国法律,他们要求引渡是经本国法律正式授权的。

Davis (Stately) replies to rudiravi
And who will punish the US government and its leaders for their war crimes? For their violation of the US Constitution?
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谁来惩罚美国政府及其领导人的战争罪行?还有他们违反美国宪法的行为。

ragslin (India)
anyone who commenting in favor of Snowden, must think if Snowden was Indian and employeed by Indian security agency and then he would have leaked the information by going in other country. Wouldn’t you think this is called treason or betraying or compromising nation’s security?
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那些发帖支持斯诺登的人该想一下,要是斯诺登是印度人,受雇于印度安全机构,然后他在其他国家泄露信息。难道你不会认为这是背叛且危及国家安全吗?

Voice of Humanity (India)
We encourage all truthful americans to come and disclose the truth the world with respect to all types of mischief in USA. We will reward you and protect you forever and ever Amen.
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我们鼓励所有诚实的美国人出来向世界揭露美国的卑鄙行为。我们会报答你们,永远保护你们,阿门。

Suriyamoorthy Doraiswamy (Khandwa)
If a person leaks his own country’s secrets to other countries can it be treated mercifully saying that he has not hurt anybody. Will we forgive any Indian who exposes India’s secrets? Or will China forgive anyone who may expose China’s secrets? Snowden Khan is a wretched renegade probably with ulterior motives — motives other than what he has stated. I look forward to the time when he is brought to USA , charged and sentenced .
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如果一个人把国家机密泄露给其他国家,说他并未伤害其他人就可以了事吗。如果有印度人泄露印度秘密,我们会原谅他吗?或者中国会原谅泄露本国秘密的中国人吗?斯诺登是卑鄙的叛徒,肯定藏有他未说出来的动机。我期待他被引渡回美国受审的那一刻。

thinker (India) replies to Suriyamoorthy Doraiswamy
If India spies on its own citizens secretly then India also needs to be exposed. It’s not about our country or their country.. Let me ask a question– what would you do to the person who informs you that your neighbor had fitted a spy camera in your home and have all information about your life? will you arrest the informer or reward him?
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如果印度秘密监视本国公民,那么也该被揭露,这不是事关哪个国家的问题…..问一个问题:要是有人告诉你说邻居在你家安装了摄像头,并记录下了你生活的一切?你会逮捕告密者还是报答他?

Yonatan Eliyahu (India)
I know where to go when America falls apart—Hong Kong. I love this place already!
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要是美国分崩离析了,我知道要去哪里了,就是香港!我已经爱上这个地方了!

Ravi Shankar (Hyderabad, India)
If China is doing cyber attacks world wide, then how it is wrong with US doing cyber surveillance across the world. Attacks are different and surveillance is different
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既然中国可以全世界发动网络攻击,为何美国监视全世界就错了?攻击的目的不同,监视的目的也不同。

abduer (Cochin)
Since when did a sample size of 509 respondents become so ‘BIG’ while gathering opinion on such a serious matter? Had the sample size been bigger the percentage of people who opined against extradition would certainly have been more.
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既然要收集人们对如此重要问题的看法,区区509名受访者样本什么时候开始算”大“了?要是样本大些,反对引渡斯诺登的比例肯定会更高。

James Ong (Singapore)
If Snowden is comfortable in Hong Kong and vice versa, then China should allow Snowden to stay in Hong Kong and not be extradited to the US, when the US exercises its extradition request. In fact, China go to the extent of granting asylum to Snowden when the latter seeks asylum in China.
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如果斯诺登在香港呆得舒服,且反之亦然的话,那么中国应当允许斯诺登呆在香港,拒绝将其引渡回美国。要是美国提出引渡斯诺登,中国可以在后者提出要求的情况下给其提供庇护。

John (mumbai) replies to James Ong
If not extradite, USA will gun him down.Better move Snowden to Beijing
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要是不引渡,美国将把他毙掉。最好叫斯诺登搬到北京去。

komaalrani (mumbai)
But the decision will be taken by Hong kong or China? Hong kong has an extradition treaty with US and once he is in the grip of US of A he will be another Manning.
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此事将由香港来做决定还是中国?香港与美国签有引渡条约,一旦他落入美国手中,他将会成为另一个曼宁!

【三泰虎注:曼宁被指控为美国历史上最大的文件泄密者。因为“维基解密”披露了20多万份有关伊拉克战争和阿富汗战争的军事外交机密文件,当时的美国政府在整个世界面前灰头土脸。而制造这一事件的最关键人物,居然是一位当年才25岁的美国陆军一等兵——布拉德利·曼宁】

John (mumbai)
Well done , China!!!
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中国,干得好!

reena gulati (delhi)
VERY GREAT ACT BY CHINESE. IT IS DAVID VS GOLIATH FIGHT . WITH SNOWDEN ARE AT LEAST 6 BILLION PEOPLE AND U.S HAS SUPPORT OF THUGS AND THIEVES ONLY. CAN U.S BE CALLED A DEMOCRACY ANY MORE . IT IS MORE LIKE A SECURITY STATE OR POLICE STATE. REENA GULATI
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中国人干的非常棒,这是大卫和歌利亚的战斗。支持斯诺登的人至少有60亿,而支持美国的尽是些暴徒和盗贼。你还能称美国是皿煮国家吗,它更像是维稳国家爱或者警察国家。

ketan (mumbai)
India wouldn’t even dare provide asylum……….
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印度连庇护都不敢提供…….

vcbhutani (Delhi)
It is difficult to know whether writing in the Chinese press and the Hong Kong press (the two are qualitatively different) represents the thinking of the Chinese government. The Hong Kong press is even more emphatic than the Chinese press in saying that Snowden should not be extradited to the US. It may be expected that the Chinese government shall be guided by its perception of its own interests rather than inchoate factors like public opinion and press opinion, neither of which really exists on the mainland. The Chinese government shall have to weigh the advantage of rubbing US nose in the dust by refusing extradition with the possible disadvantage of further difficulties in the US–China relationship. As we know that relationship is not on an ideal footing, but neither side seems inclined to allow matters to drift. The new Chinese leaders have an early test on their hands

难以获知中国媒体和香港媒体的报道是否代表中国的看法。实际上,香港媒体的报道要比中国媒体措辞更强硬,报道称香港不应该把斯诺登引渡回美国。预计中国将会依据自身利益行事,不会顾及公众舆论和媒体舆论等因素,不过中国大陆并非真正存在这些舆论。中国应当权衡冒犯美国的利弊,拒绝引渡斯诺登可能会给美中关系带来更大的困难。众所周知,美中关系并非一帆风顺,双方似乎不希望事态失控。

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