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俄罗斯战机在黑海上空与美国无人机相撞,美国reddit网友的评论

Russian jet collides with US drone over Black Sea

俄罗斯战机在黑海上空与美国无人机相撞

A Russian fighter jet has collided with a US drone, causing the unmanned US aircraft to crash into the Black Sea, the American military says.

The incident highlights the increasing risk of direct confrontation between Russia and the US over the Ukraine war.

The US says the drone was on a routine mission in international airspace when two Russian jets tried to intercept it.

Russia said the drone crashed after a "sharp manoeuvre", and denied that the two aircraft made direct contact.

The Russian defence ministry also said the MQ-9 Reaper drone was flying with its transponders turned off. Transponders are communications devices that allow the aircraft to be tracked.

美国军方表示,一架俄罗斯战斗机与一架美国无人机相撞,导致美国无人坠入黑海。

这一事件突显了俄罗斯和美国在乌克兰战争问题上直接对抗的风险越来越大。

美国表示,这架无人机当时正在国际空域执行例行任务,两架俄罗斯喷气式战机前来拦截。

俄罗斯表示,这架无人机是在“急剧机动”后坠毁的,并否认两架飞机有直接接触。

俄罗斯国防部还表示,MQ-9“收割者”无人机在关闭转发器的情况下飞行。转发器是一种可以跟踪飞机的通信设备。

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以下是美国reddit网友的评论:

NearbyImagination585

Did the US lose the drone? If so if it crashes into the sea, would the US Navy speed to the crash site before adversaries get to it?

美国失去这架无人机了吗?如果它坠入黑海,美国海军会在对手到达之前迅速赶到坠机地点吗?

 

captain_holt_nypd

It’s a MQ-9 drone which is nearly 20 years old and have been shot down many times before. If the Russians don’t have specifications on the drone then their intelligence apparatus is insanely lacking.

Not to mention the USAF have been begging for Congress to retire this drone meaning they probably couldn’t care less about it especially if the fighter jet is damaged from the incident. That’s one less 4th Gen fighter Ukraine needs to deal with

这是一架MQ-9无人机,已有近20年的历史,之前曾多次被击落。如果俄罗斯人没有该无人机的规格参数,那么他们的情报机构可以说是形同虚设。

美国空军一直恳求国会让这架无人机退役,也就是说已经根本不在乎它,如果战斗机在事件中受损的话就更不用说了。乌克兰要对付的第四代战斗机就少了一架。

 

OwnerOfABouncyBall

I hope the US has the advantage of knowing exactly where the drone went down.

我希望美国掌握了该无人机坠落的确切位置。

 

wastingvaluelesstime

Non need to go there. Wait till the russians go, then give the ukrainians the coordinates so they torpedo the salvage ship, thus obscuring our debris with heavier russian shipwreck debris

没必要去那里。等俄罗斯人走了,再把坐标告诉乌克兰人,让他们用鱼雷炸毁打捞船,用更重的俄罗斯沉船残骸掩盖我们无人机的残骸

 

Evil Cackle

Somewhere deep in the middle of the contiguous United States, two drone operators just got their lunch early.

在美国中部的某个地方,两名无人机操作员刚刚提前吃了午餐。

MrDork

They are probably STILL in the mission debrief...

他们可能还在做任务汇报

Accidental-Genius

It’s Nevada and they’re probably still writing the post op report

是内华达州,他们可能还在写报告

 

Pac0theTac0

Are remote drones really piloted from the other side of the planet? I always assumed the operators were relatively close. Like I thought it would be in eastern Europe at least.

远程无人机真的可以从地球的另一端操控吗?我一直以为他们离得比较近。我以为至少在东欧是这样。

 

RockinMadRiot

According to sky news, the Russian jet tried to dump fuel over the drone and it caused both the jet, an SU-27 (there were two) and the drone (MQ-9) to crash. They were over the black sea in international waters.

据天空新闻报道,俄罗斯喷气式战机向美国无人机倾倒燃料,导致苏-27(两架)和无人机(MQ-9)坠毁,事发地点在黑海的国际水域上空。

 

Pronoes84

The BBC tells the story a little differently

"The "unsafe and unprofessional act by the Russians" nearly caused one of the fighter jets and the drone to crash, the US European command added"

"Our MQ-9 aircraft was conducting routine operations in international airspace when it was intercepted and hit by a Russian aircraft, resulting in a crash and complete loss of the MQ-9," said US Air Force Gen James Hecker.

BBC的说法有点不同

美国欧洲司令部补充说,“俄罗斯人不安全、不专业的行为”几乎导致其中一架战斗机和无人机坠毁。

美国空军上将詹姆斯·赫克说:“我们的MQ-9在国际空域执行例行任务时被俄罗斯飞机拦截并击中,导致MQ-9坠毁”

 

ptwonline

Sounds like Russia is pretty eager to stop US surveillance in the Black Sea. Guessing they have ship going on right now they really don't want the US to track.

听起来俄罗斯非常渴望阻止美国在黑海的监视行为。我猜他们真的不想让美国追踪。

 

ToastTurtle

I feel like dum fuel on a US asset should be considered attacking it. Just because it wasn't a missile doesn't change anything. The fact they hit is just makes it more clear it was a deliberate attack on a US asset.

我觉得向美国无人机倾倒燃料应该被视为攻击。就算不是导弹也是袭击。这清楚地表明,这是对美国资产的蓄意攻击。

 

ikzeidegek

It sounds as if Russia attacked the American drone over international waters then. Is that an act of war?

听起来好像是俄罗斯在国际水域袭击了美国无人机。这是战争行为吗?

 

SSHeretic

People always flip out about these things when they happen but they never matter, like the Chinese balloon. Hell, Turkey shot down a Russian fighter jet that wondered into their airspace in 2015 and Russia whined a bit but did nothing. And without any US personnel involved the US isn't going to escalate.

There's just going to be finger-pointing and calls for things to calm down.

当这些事情发生时,人们总是会抓狂,但并不在乎,就像击落中国气球一样。

2015年,土耳其击落了一架进入他们领空的俄罗斯战斗机,俄罗斯抱怨了一下,但什么也没做。

在没有任何美国人员卷入的情况下,美国不会升级事态。人们只会相互指责,呼吁事态平静下来。

adfddadl

Indeed. No one is starting ww3 over one drone.

确实。没人会因为一架无人机发动第三次世界大战

 

BirdLawConnoisseur

Russian forces even literally shot down a passenger flight and killed nearly 300 people and it seems we’ve mostly forgotten about it.

俄罗斯军队以前甚至击落过一架客机,造成近300人死亡,似乎我们已经忘记了这件事。

 

Snatat

Well the Chinese balloon was in US airspace no?

中国气球进入了美国领空,不是吗?

 

FatherHackJacket

This wasn't in Russian airspace though. It was in international air space. This actually matters. It was a direct attack on a piece of US military hardware that costs over 30 million. No it's not going to start WW3, but Russia attacking it shows they are trying to test how much they can get away with in the region.

不过这不是在俄罗斯领空,而是在国际空域。这点很重要。这是对价值超过3000万美元的美国军事硬件的直接攻击。不过这不会引发第三次世界大战,但俄罗斯攻击了它,表明他们在测试在该地区能否逃逸。

 

capitalsfan08

What was Russia going to do when they went into Turkish airspace? It's way different in international territory.

俄罗斯战机进入土耳其领空,打算做什么?在国际空域,情况是完全不同的。

 

LordPennybag

There's a bit of a difference between a Chinese balloon and a $32 million US military aircraft.

中国的气球和价值3200万美元的美国军用无人机不能相提并论。

 

KruppeTheWise

I find it interesting that Russia downs a US drone in international waters just as Trump and DeSantis are saying supporting Ukraine isn't a big deal and it's time to hit the negotiations, implying some heavy redrawing of Ukraine's territory.

我觉得有趣的是,就在特朗普和德桑蒂斯说支持乌克兰不是什么大问题,是时候开始谈判了,俄罗斯就在国际水域击落了一架美国无人机,这是对乌克兰领土进行了一些重大的重新划定

 

BeginByLettingGo

How does a Russian jet collide into a large drone? I know very little about the military..

一架俄罗斯喷气式战机是如何撞上一架大型无人机的?我对军事知之甚少。

 

rTpure

these drones have cameras, wait until they release the footage

这些无人机有摄像头,等他们公布录像再说

 

thethirdllama

It probably involved a shitty pilot trying to fly as close as possible but ending up a little too close. See also the Hainan Island incident.

可能是一个蹩脚的飞行员飞得尽可能近,但结果却太近了。看看海南岛事件。

Mand125

The drone is a lot bigger than you think. This isn’t some rinkydink quadcopter, the drones are essentially planes themselves, just with no pilot. It’s got a 66 foot wingspan. Turns out you can fit a lot more useful things on an aircraft when you don’t have to worry about kee someone alive inside it.

无人机比你想象的要大得多。这不是什么蹩脚的四轴飞行器,无人机本质上就是飞机,只是没有飞行员。它有66英尺长的翼展。事实证明,你可以在无人机上装上更多有用的东西,不必担心要保证飞行员的安全

 

GrumpyNewYorker

Intentionally.

故意的

 

miranomejoda

the irony on this is russian channels and telgram are applauding this downing saying that even if in international waters it was collecting data and should have been blown out the sky.

Russia needs to remember this can easily happen to any of its boats. planes and anything else collecting data anywhere....... dont cry

具有讽刺意味的是,俄罗斯媒体称赞这次击落行动,称即使该无人机是在国际水域收集数据,也应该被炸飞。

俄罗斯需要记住,这种事也很容易发生在其军舰、飞机和其他在任何地方收集数据的装备上,到时候不要哭

 

EphemeralLurker

If the US had the opportunity to down a Russian drone gathering intelligence that would likely result in the loss of American lives in a warzone, I'm 100% sure the US would do it too, regardless of where it was flying

如果美国有机会击落一架收集情报的俄罗斯无人机,即使这可能会导致美国人在战区失去生命,我100%肯定美国也会这么做,不管它在哪里飞

 

Ebatnedolgno

And do Russian drones often fly along American borders?

俄罗斯无人机经常飞越美国边境吗?

 

Hyperostosis

It's a pretty silly move to further antagonize diplomacy with the United States by downing 1 of 316+ of these drones. Surely it doesn't offer Russia much benefit, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was used as justification for us to send more lethal aid to Ukraine.

击落美国316架以上无人机中的1架,这是一个非常愚蠢的举动,会进一步影响和美国的外交关系。当然,这不会给俄罗斯带来太多好处,但如果该事件被美国用作向乌克兰提供更多武器援助的理由,我也不会感到惊讶。

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