New J-10B shows comprehensive rather than partial improvements
On November 6th Zhang Jigao, deputy chief designer of the J-10 fighter, spoke about the improved model J 10 publicly for
the first time in the AVIC flight test center. Zhang Jigaotold People’s Daily Online reporters that the overall performance of the J10 will be comprehensively improved in areas such as aerodynamic layout,mission system, and the approach to maintenance.
In March 2009, pictures of our improved model J10 fighters appeared for the first time on the Internet, and netizens quickly began to call it the ”J-10B”.
Over the last five 5 years, several images of the test J10B have appeared online,attracting widespread attention from netizens, military enthusiasts, and even foreign media.U.S. military expert Richard Fisher recently pointed out that the J-10B is a so-called”fourth and a half” generation fighter equipped with modern airborne technology and an advanced radar system, which is about to be delivered to the PLA Air Force.
Zhang Jigao disputed the term ”fourth and a half” generation. In contrast, he suggestedthat the current international criteria to classify generations are more applicable.
He pointed out that single combat is rare in modern warfare, and that the majority of casesnow involve system combat and network operations, so that the combat capabilities of a fighter depend on many factors.”This does not mean that the
optimization of an aircraft’s radar, avionics, and missile detection ranges are bound to improvements in operational performance.”
Zhang Jigao added that further improvements to the performance of the J10 would focus on the aircraft’s aerodynamic layout and mission systems, and the approach to maintenance.”Aircraft development requires constant optimization and improvement,” he said, “and our modifications will be comprehensive rather than being confined to a specific area.”
Only thing new is the paint
The J-10B is quite an extensive upgrade, it's like the difference between an F-16C Block 30/40 and an F-16E.
Well if you only count the paint, then there's not even that.
All test models of their's have yellow paint, production ones are grey.
So I guess even the paint isn't new.
J-10B得到了相当广泛的升级，它就像F-16C Block 30/40和F-16E之间的区别。
I know that
I would say it's about the improvement between an F-16A Block-15 and a F-16C Block-52+.
以我来看，它是从F-16A Block-15到F-16C Block-52+的改进。
The gap, sure.
But if the rumours have any bit of truth in them it may surpass F-16C models in some areas.
I will SEEEEEEEE it.
Can it be competetive to say F-16 Block 52 or Block 60 ? What is your view or info from any sources.
它对比F-16 Block 52或 F-16 Block 60有竞争力吗？你有什么看法或提供一些资料吧。
My personal view is that it will be as capable the F-16 Block 52.
Sources have always talked about the level of sensor fusion as what excites them the most, so that indicates a well rounded system with a similar idea to the SPECTRA on the Rafale, but I doubt it will be as capable, and I'm just going to leave these as rumours, since there's nothing to suggest that level of upgrade, but like I said, ESA radar, IRST and visible improvements to the EW/ECM suite. So I can see how it might happen.
The Chinese sources themselves have compared it to an F-16E, this goes along with the above claim and another claim that is will infact have an AESA radar and many other technologies completely new to the Chinese market, this is because the J-10B is meant to be a test-bed for systems on the J-20.
But, this leaves me with a bit of a worry, are these technologies matured enough?
The progress by the Chinese is very rapid, and it's not been too long since they moved on to their own work rather then locally produced Russian parts. Another aspect that worries me is the lack of information, the J-10B has been in testing for a very long time now. Sure it makes sense, what with the level of upgrade they're dealing with, but it could also be engine trouble.
What I'm trying to say here is that there's a risk that J-10B might be filled with half baked technology, not fully mature.
Perhaps that's why it's taking so long.
我个人的看法是，它能媲美F-16 Block 52.
But always remember, Chinese has very bad habit about there tall claims. If they can, they already on Alpha Centuri.
But the few confirmed things we can be sure of are the following, DSI/bump inlet and with it some sort of weight reduction, the extent to which may be significant, might improve T/W ratio. There's the the IRST which is likely uses legacy imaging tech, but an improvement nonetheless. Redesigned nose to accommodate DSI, perhaps also changed in mind with a new radar.
New radar is also confirmed after those leaked picks of the radar testing on the J-10, likely an ESA of some sort, which would also explain the nose change to accommodate a new radar and cooling system.
Upgraded ECM/EW suite, which is visible and shows external changes. New engine is things go to plan, greater weapons integration. Pretty much the same weapons package unveiled for the JF-17 in 2011 and now in 2013.
I've left out the things that have no confirmation.