从这里了解印度人对中国的看法

Navneet:普那见闻,中印两国的生活图片对比(2)

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三泰虎博客译文《Navneet:普那见闻,中印两国的生活图片对比(2)》。Navneet:一天,把儿子放下车后,我们开始回家,妻子叫我买一桶容量20升的饮用水。我按照印度的停车方式把车斜停在路边,但妻子对我这种停车方式感到不满,以前她一般不会这样的。我的停车方式有两大缺陷:一个是靠近小区车辆开入的进口,另一个是车并未完全停在线内。只能小小冒失一回,毕竟边上还停着一辆踏板车,根本就没有其他停车空位,况且我不可能把车停到离商店半公里之外的地方……

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:Living In Pune…Part 2 ( With Images of Life in India and China)
外文地址:http://travel.sulekha.com/living-in-pune-part-2-with-images-of-life-in-india-and-china_travelogue_559621

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One day while coming back after dropping our son, my wife asked me to pick up a 20L bottle for water dispenser. I parked the car, the way the cars are parked in India, diagonally on the road side, but Smart Sulekhika wasn’t happy with my parking as she normally is not. There were two major flaws in my choice of parking. One that it was adjacent to the ‘drive in’ of a colony and secondly the car wasn’t exactly parked inside the line drawn to indicate the space limit for allowed single row parking.

一天,把儿子放下车后,我们开始回家,妻子叫我买一桶容量20升的饮用水。我按照印度的停车方式把车斜停在路边,但妻子对我这种停车方式感到不满,以前她一般不会这样的。我的停车方式有两大缺陷:一个是靠近小区车辆开入的进口,另一个是车并未完全停在线内。

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I had to take a little liberty because there was a scooter standing next to the kerb. There was no vacant place for parking and I couldn’t have parked the car half a kilometer away from the shop because there was a chance of me coming across a situation where the shopkeeper’s help could have gone to deliver the bottles to other customers. I would have to carry the bottle to the car in that case and I had to take care of such an exigency. So I parked the car against Sulekhika’s protestations. I told her that I won’t be away longer than the time I will waste in parking the car and that she could use her steering skill if need be, to put her apprehensions to rest rather than using her ventriloquism to hector.

只能小小冒失一回,毕竟边上还停着一辆踏板车,根本就没有其他停车空位,况且我不可能把车停到离商店半公里之外的地方,否则我可能遇到这么一种情况,即商店的送货人可能刚好给其他客户送桶装水去了。这么一来,我就只好自己大老远地把水搬到汽车上去,为此我不得不预防以上的紧急情况。所以,我不顾妻子的抗议,把车停在那里。我跟她说很快会回来的,不消停车浪费的时间就能赶回来,而她应该把担心搁在一边,别再发挥其恐吓的本领了。

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While I was paying for the bottle the shopkeeper’s servant who had gone to deliver the bottle to the car broke the news …a very sad news that the car had been hit..thodi lag gayee hai, he said pausing for me to take the hit…doosri gadi ne mara…how I wished he would stop describing. I closed my eyes and I thumped my hand on my head and braced myself for a severe reprimand. When I reached the car, Sulekhika was standing outside the car, almost on the verge of pouncing on me. Sometimes I think Smart Sulekhika can do much better than Nirmal Baba because she has a strong sixth sense and her premonitions always come true. A puny little girl stood by her. The inevitable had happened. While turning the car on the main road the girl in an attempt to keep her I20 clear of the truck had scraped the bumper of our new beauty. It wasn’t much of a damage but, well the car wasn’t unscratched either. The definition of a virgin is very rigid, there are no concessions, allowances or compromises, only after thoughts, allegations and ifs and buts.

当我在付钱时,店里帮我把桶装水搬到车上的雇工爆料了一个消息…..一个非常遗憾的消息,即我的车被撞了……..(叽里咕噜说了一堆话)……..当时多么希望他别再说下去了。我闭上眼睛,用手敲打着头,做好被严厉训斥的准备。我忐忑不安地来到车边,妻子站在车外,那架势看起来像要把我痛殴一顿一样。有时候,我觉得妻子比Nirmal厉害,因为她有超强的第六感觉,她的预感总是能灵验。

她边上站着一位弱小的女孩。不可避免的事情终究发生了。女孩开着她的(现代)i20车转上这条主路后,为了避免撞上卡车,结果刮擦到了我们新买爱车的保险杆。虽然造成的损失不大,但终归留下了刮擦的痕迹。

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The scratch wasn’t such that could make me feel bad but my smile would have seemed derisive then. I was supposed to compliment my wives pain and her pain is always acute. Her silver beauty stood there wounded. I walked up to the girl who was trembling like a lamb standing next to a lioness. Tumhara kya naam hai beti..I said, ghabrao mat, kuchh nahin hua hai. I learnt from her that she was taking her son to a doctor but my wife won’t let her go. I learnt that she was twenty nine and had been married for ten years but she looked barely out of school. Tears trickled down her face. Aap mere papa ko phone kar dena, wo damage ke liye pay kar denge. Aap mere in-laws ko phone mat karna, wo mujhe jaan se maar dalenge.

刮痕并不大,心情不是太坏,但难以付之一笑。我该去恭维妻子了,她的痛楚总是来得那么尖锐。她那辆银色的爱车带着伤痕被搁在那里。

我走向那名女孩,她当时像一只羔羊颤抖地站在一头狮子边上。

Tumhara kya naam hai beti….”我说道,“ghabrao mat, kuchh nahin hua hai.”

一番沟通后,我获悉她正送儿子去看医生,但我妻子不放她走。

她29岁,已经结婚十年了,但看起来就像是刚走出校门的女孩子。眼泪从其脸颊滴下……. (叽里咕噜)…….

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I was moved. She didn’t even dare tell me that my car wasn’t parked inside the line, which later I learnt from my wife, she had said to her to extricate herself from the mess, before she could have the taste of power Smart Sulekhika could unleash. Aarti- Kya tum khush nahin ho, I asked her as her pleading of not speaking to her in laws squeezed my heart. She shook her head. Kya tumhare in-laws tumhen achha treat nahin karate. She shook her head more vigorously.

我被感动了。她甚至没敢说我的车并未停在线内。后来,我从妻子那了解到,在妻子发威之前,她要求妻子让她脱离这一乱局…….Aarti- Kya tum khush nahin ho……. 我问她话,她恳求别把这事告诉其公公婆婆,这触动了我的心。

她摇了摇头…..

Kya tumhare in-laws tumhen achha treat nahin karate.

她头摇得更厉害了。

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I put my hand on her head in my effort to convey in wordless moment that I felt her pain but was helpless. What help could I have given her, if she were my daughter? Even the riches of the parents and the assurance that the parents will take me back aren’t enough for a girl whose dreams of a good married life are shattered. The social stigma, the yawning loneliness of life ahead, the loss of purpose appear like spikes on dark, uncertain road of life. Jao beti, I said.. Hame kisi se kuchh nahin lena hai par hamari car ab nayeen nahin rahi hai.

我把手放在她头上以传达这一无言的时刻,表示我感受到了她的痛楚,但很无奈。如果她是我女儿,我能怎么帮她呢?社会污名,未来生活的孤独,不确定的人生之路。”Jao beti。“我说,”Hame kisi se kuchh nahin lena hai par hamari car ab nayeen nahin rahi hai.

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By that time my wife had already tried the number the girl had given, to confirm that the she hadn’t played a smart act. I don’t know why Sulekhika’s brain works on the premise that the world in general is populated by scoundrels and cheats. The girl’s mother in law had taken the phone. Though I told her to cut the phone without saying anything and thankfully she did but some damage definitely had been done.

当时,为了确认女孩没有耍花招,妻子试拨了女孩给的电话号码。不知何故,妻子的脑子怎么老是以为世界充满着无赖和骗子。女孩的婆婆接了电话。我叫妻子别说话,赶紧挂断电话,幸亏她照做了,但某些伤害已经产生。

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My wife had her own reasons to be upset. Whining doesn’t move her as such, I know from my personal experiences, but today she was smouldering with her own grouse. She remained upset for many days. I inquired that the repair would take about four thousand bucks. It wasn’t that the car couldn’t be run but it was like living with a blemish. I spoke to the girl’s father and said, Mr. Aggarwal, I am not calling you for the getting the damage to my car repaired…Car ki chinta to chhodo aap ki beti se baat kar mere man mein chinta aur sahanubhooti ke bhaav jaage hain. Aap ki beti khush nahin hai. He said, he was aware but then it’s one’s fate at play. I agreed with his philosophical, resigned stance and wondered about the state of women in this country.

我妻子有生气的理由。从我的经验来看,哭泣是不怎么能打动她的。这次她的埋怨积了很久,好多天在生气。我打听了,修车要花大约4000卢比。并非车不能跑了,只是车有了瑕疵。

我对女孩的父亲说:”Aggarwal先生,我打电话给你不是要你把车修好…..Car ki chinta to chhodo aap ki beti se baat kar mere man mein chinta aur sahanubhooti ke bhaav jaage hain. Aap ki beti khush nahin hai….“。

他表示明白,称这是命运在作祟。我对他的哲学表示赞同,同时对妇女在国内的状况感到疑惑。

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Now when I am writing this post after Amir’s Satyamev Jyate and raids on MTP centres in Maharashtra, Incidents of throwing acid on girls, the state of the girls in shelter homes..a lot has come to light but a lot more never will. Will all this news and media coverage change us? Will anything change for women in India? The women in this country will have to live with their lot. Our apathy towards them will not change, enacting laws and spreading awareness be damned. It is making life further difficult for many.

朝女孩泼硫酸,收容所里女孩的状况…..许多此类事件被曝光,但更多的永远被隐藏了起来。媒体的报道会给我们带来改变吗?印度女性的状况能获得改善吗?我们对女性的漠然不会改变。法律的制定和意识的宣传真见鬼了,使得许多人的生活越来越困难。

骑着车打电话,没有戴头盔

骑着车打电话,没有戴头盔

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Those who are discarding fetuses in the dust bins are women and they certainly are not doing it for fun. The mother in laws who are making life difficult for their daughter in laws for not being able to bear Ghar Ka Chirag’ are women too. Jaswanti Devi and many others who are running “ Apna Ghars” for women and supplying them to customers including VIPs and the policemen too are women.

那些把胎儿丢在垃圾桶的是女性,当然她们不是为了好玩才那样做的。儿媳若老是不生儿子,不让她有好日子过的婆婆也是女性。把女人送给VIP贵宾和警察等客户的也是女性。

印度的公交车

印度的公交车

中国公交车

中国公交车

中国公交车内部

中国公交车内部

Let’s try to steer the thought away from the darkness it is heading for. Year ago, a few days after we had bought a car (another silver beauty), I got a call from my wife around ten in the morning. As such Sulekhika’s word delivery rate is almost double that of another human being but when excited it becomes like a rapid fire of a toy machine gun. It’s OK for the hearing disabled like me but for others it’s no music. She spoke furiously in the phone and there were lots of other noises too, so I reckoned she was in a thick of trouble.

先别让思绪往黑暗面钻。几年前,我刚买新车没几天(也是一辆银色的车),早上大约10点左右接到妻子打来的电话。妻子的语速几乎是一般人的两倍,要是激动起来的话,那可是跟机关枪一样快。对于我这样有听力障碍的人倒是没问题,但是别人听起来可不会觉得是动听的音乐。她在电话中狂怒,还夹杂着许多噪音,我当时估计她陷入了大麻烦。

SAM_36 (22)

普那

Suno yeh auto wale ne hamari gadi ko mar diya hai aur wok keh raha hai ki main paise nahin doonga chahe mujhe jhel bhijwa do.

“How much is the damage”, I inquired?

“The dickey is indented and some paint is skimmed”, She said.

Let him go, he has told you that he won’t pay and he doesn’t mind going to the jail.

”损毁有多大?“我询问道。

”有的地方凹进去了,一些漆脱落了。“她说道。

放他走吧,他已经说了,他不会赔偿的,还说大不了坐牢。

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In India we very often come across this situation. That’s why we so often see people reaching for each other’s throat. In some cases they literally do. In road rage murder is not uncommon in India. Agreed, the procedure of getting the repair done is lengthy and that of getting claims from insurance, tedious but coming down to blows and abuses is not right for the civilized people to settle disputes, but who said we are civilized?

在印度,我们经常碰到此类情况。所以常常会看到人们互相掐架。公路上出现暴怒谋杀在印度并不鲜见。把车修好是费时的,申请保险赔偿更是冗长乏味。但是对于文明人来说,诉诸拳脚来解决问题并非明智之举。哈哈,谁说我们是文明人了?

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A few days after our return to Chandigarh, I got a call from our son at the dreaded time of 10 AM. “Papa my car has been hit”. “There is big scratch across the doors”. “Ye lo aap Mr. Saini se baat karlo”. So I spoke to an unknown person. He too was an IT professional, well paid and nice to talk to.

几天后,我们回到了昌迪加尔,我又在可怕的上午10点接到儿子的电话。

”爸爸,我的车被撞了。车门被刮了好大一块。“

“Ye lo aap Mr. Saini se baat karlo”

我跟一名陌生人对上了话。他也是IT专业人士,收入不错,也很好说话。

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普那

中国

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    • 浦那是邻近孟买最新发展起来的IT工业中心城,以印度基建速度来讲,发展算蛮可以的。Navneet叔一直在抱怨印度的发展设施拖后腿,尤其是水电供给。

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              2 孟买(Mumbai) 72.93 
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              4 普纳(Pune) 64.27 
              5 钦奈(Chennai) 62.75 
              6 古尔冈(Gurgaon) 62.30 
              7 加尔各答(Kolkata) 61.99 
              8 海德拉巴(Hyderabad) 61.76 
              9 阿默达巴德(Ahmedabad) 60.86 
              10 斋普尔(Jaipur) 59.72 
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              13 那格浦尔(Nagpur) 58.48 
              14 科钦(Kochi) 58.06 
              15 昌迪加尔(Chandigarh) 58.01 

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              4.金奈 7,413,779
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          • 普那和浦那是一个城市吗?为什么印度人口超过500万的不多?二三百万人口就排到了前十五了,印度人口统计是不是也和中国一样一个城市人口要包括这个行政区的农村人口?

          • 什么叫做假戏真做?你是在侮辱我对印度的感情吗?虽然从道德上讲,印度在拉达克、喜马偕尔、锡金、藏南和东北邦对黄种人所进行种族屠杀和有组织的群体性强奸、轮奸是非常可耻的,但印度的确是个超级大国。我崇拜真正的强者

          • 至少这里提到的是一个城市,浦那是国内规范译法。瓢虫兄拉出的列表,是整个都市区的人口数字,譬如孟买2200万人中,只有大约1000万住在本城,浦那550万人中只有大约250万住在本城

    • 你不知道印度的道路是怎么修起来的,曾经有一篇文章是专门写印度怎么修公路的,完全的人工操作,妇女们用箩筐头顶沥青,混凝土,沥青、混凝土只有薄薄的一层。如果说中国很多地方的路修的是豆腐渣,那么印度道路标准,连豆腐渣都不如。

    • 是啊,我觉得也不公平,应该拿某个高新区,或者大学城来比较吧。要不太公平了。另外,大叔人挺不错。

  4. 一个小城市跟上海比,印度人真搞笑,

    中国的小城市不比印度好多少,

    很多小城镇乡村,甚至比印度还脏乱差,

  5. 这个叫普纳的地方看起来也挺好的啊,大叔不要沮丧,城市发展需要时间的么,我家这边新的经济适用房那边和普纳也是差不多的,毕竟是新开发的地方么,本来也是乡下地方来着。

    • 还很普遍,一般新娘还是要出嫁妆,新郎还是希望得到嫁妆,没有父母的同意比较困难。再说了,嫁妆太丰厚,父母就会主动物色人家,希望能多得到或少付出点…应该是的。印度用这种方式维持家庭观念,同时保护传统文化,这是一项非常不错的成就。中国人应该好好学习

        • 这才证明印度人宽容博爱的精神呀。给人有给钱,这是一种非常体面和高尚的善意提醒:你们什么都不缺了,以后好好相处好好疼爱我女儿。中国必须学习印度的这种先进经验,这样才能提高我们的道德素养和精神风貌

          • 楼上你真不懂吗?那些不愿意出足够嫁妆的人家,他们根本就不能满足印度对自己公民的道德要求。作为世界上人口最多的两个国家:我们中国用计划生育这种野蛮的方式扼杀那些没有任何错误的孩子的出世,他们中很多人可能将来有机会成为最杰出的人物;而人家印度只是通过消灭那些不能达到公民标准的人来控制人口。他们做得棒极了。我们应该好好学习

      • 印度还是习惯泼汽油用烧的,然后说那是意外事故,不管别人信不信,反正警察一直都是不管的。

  6. 亲,不要拿普那和上海比呀,孟买比上海,新德里比北京,班加罗尔比深圳,普那嘛就那个高港好了,这样才能对应嘛

  7. 普纳的规模如果是排在印度第七八位的样子,那应该至少和杭州,南京这样的城市比较。

  8. Magarpatta新城建设还是挺好的,只是道路看起来为什么那么脏呢?油乎乎的看起来永远也清理不净的感觉。

    • 我们以前的道路也是油乎乎的,一到夏天拿手都能按手印。应该是用的沥青品质不好,配比也不正产,太阳暴晒过后就会看起来油乎乎的。

  9. 印度是女人的地狱,感觉她们应该起个义啥的,闹一下独立,自己建个国分离出去。——刚看了一部关于印度女性生存现状的纪录片,每隔10分钟眼泪流一行。在虐待妇女方面,印度应该是第一位吧,如果排第二,那我对人性的认知就要被彻底颠覆了。。。

    • 我勒个去,为什么我看正文的时候没有评论,刷新一下才出来的,吓我一跳,这么抢沙发的,原来我的浏览器出错了! 😈

  10. 我记得10多年前我还上小学或初中时,中国不也是经常电力紧张吗?工业限电,西部限电支援北京上海,我们也经常遇到一天、半天的停电。也许是三峡的功劳吧,现在谁还记得停电的感觉?

  11. 印度交通很糟,没有交通规则可言,一切都凭眼疾手快。
    不过出了车祸就找爸爸还是比较奇葩。

  12. Suresh Rao

    navneet

    Great picture posts showing glaring contrast as usual. Poona is getting infested with good looking buildings… chalo all these great looking building are changing landscape there.

    What good is car insurance in India then if they don’t cover damages; would they cover atleast personal injuries, hospitalization etc?

    China roads are too quiet for my taste! No one to see or talk to; what if your car broke down there! Also, if one lived among great looking buildings there what does one do in China on weekends with no traffic and no one to talk to either… even if you knew some sign language & no chinese. Good you have family there and spend time with smart-sulekha all the time!

    强烈对比如往常一样表现无疑。普那的漂亮大楼已经多得成灾……这些建筑正改变着普那的景观。
    哪个是普纳的高楼大厦啊

  13. 嗯,其实在我看来普纳挺发达的,中国并不是每个人都住在上海成都厦门,我们市看起来和普纳挺像的,除了人不一样,哈哈,高晓松在电视节目里吹他n年前去印度有多落后,弄得我感觉印度全是乞丐似的,什么时候应该去印度走走

  14. 我是男人,我也觉得中国必须学学这种思维,我哥前一阵子结婚了,但因为给的聘礼不够20万,女方不让办婚礼,哎,中国穷人还这么多,物价和房价却已经让人吃不消了