原文标题：Indo-Sino talks put off. Has Beijing been overdramatic?
Avoidable unpleasantness has recently crept into India-China relations over issues, which should not have been overdramatised by China thereby injecting a certain distrust into the relations which had been progressing well despite continuing differences over the border dispute between the two countries.
The participation of an Indian government-owned oil company in an off-shore oil/gas exploration in three blocks in the South China Sea area belonging to Vietnam sovereignty was the starting point of this unpleasantness.
Chinese official spokesmen took care to be measured in their comments on the participation of the Indian company so that the issue did not have an uncontrollably adverse effect on the bilateral relations. Similar care not to over-dramatise the Chinese unhappiness was evident in Chinese official comments after the recent meeting between Prime Ministers Manmohan Singh and his counterpart Wen Jiabao in the margins of the East Asia summit at Bali in Indonesia.
This salutary restraint was unfortunately not evident in two commentaries on Sino-Indian relations disseminated by the party-owned Global Times and the government-owned Xinhua news agency. In view the Global Times and Xinhua, it is natural that their hard-hitting comments on India were viewed by many in India as the conscious adoption of a two-edged policy by the Chinese authorities on India's relations with Vietnam and its perceived activism in the South China Sea. This two-edged policy was seen by many in India as marked by seeming official restraint and semi-official anti-Indian virulence.
The hiccups over India's firm, but gentle assertion of its right to help Vietnam in oil/gas exploration without taking a stand on the merits of the dispute between China and Vietnam over the question of sovereignty over the South China Sea islands have been aggravated by another instance of over-dramatisation by the Chinese of their objection to the proposed participation by the Dalai Lama in a global Buddhist conference being held by a non-governmental foundation at New Delhi from November 27 to 30 coinciding with the 2600th anniversary of the Enlightenment of Buddha.
It is understood that the Chinese initially objected to the participation of the Dalai Lama in the conference and subsequently to the conference itself. It so happened that the dates of the conference coincided with the 15th round of the talks on the pending border issue between the Special Representatives of the prime ministers of the two countries which was proposed to be held at New Delhi on November 28 and 29. This round has now been postponed without any fresh dates being fixed because of the reported Chinese unhappiness over the Buddhist conference and the participation of the Dalai Lama in it.
While one could argue with some reason that Chinese sensitivities could have been kept in mind while fixing the dates for the two events so that they did not clash, one would have equal reason not to appreciate the avoidable drama created by the Chinese which has not only come in the way of the 15th round of the border talks, but has also cast a shadow over the current state of the Sino-Indian relations
While continuing to be sensitive to Chinese interests and concerns wherever possible and necessary, India has in recent months started slowly asserting its own interests and concerns without surrendering totally to those of China.
The increasing assertion of the Indian will to defend and promote its interests without impinging on those of China has been particularly evident in our relations with Vietnam and Myanmar and in our refusal to intervene in matters concerning the Dalai Lama, provided those matters are purely of a religious nature without any political significance.
This assertion of the Indian will has had two aspects -- in relation to our developing ties with Myanmar and Vietnam, and in developing our co-operation with the United States, Japan and Australia in matters relating to maritime security and maritime counter-terrorism.
While the Chinese have not so far openly come out with any objection to our developing relations with Myanmar, their officially-controlled media has been increasingly irritable with regard to our developing relations with Vietnam and the US. The Dalai Lama issue is showing signs of becoming an additional source of irritation.
If the Chinese really value their relations with India as they claim to be, it is important for them to pay as much attention to India's interests and concerns as we have always paid to theirs. Mutual respect of each other's core interests and concerns has to be a two-way traffic. The Chinese, who lose no opportunity of asserting their core interests and concerns, cannot object to India doing likewise.
It is hoped that the current unpleasantness in the bilateral relations would be ephemeral and would dissipate in the days to come thereby enabling the two countries to resume their forward movement in their search for a mutually satisfactory solution to the border problem.
However, India should be prepared for the possibility that it may not be ephemeral and it may have to live for some years with the shadow cast on the bilateral relations. We should continue to assert our core interests and concerns in a carefully calibrated manner without letting our assertion become disproportionate to our present capacity to counter any adventurist impulses of China directed at us -- whether across the border or in the South China Sea.
by arungopal agarwal (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:57 PM | Hide replies
Praise to our govt. who have shown really boldness to China, we have seen them always perspiring when China dictates. Keep this spirit alive.
by partha sharma (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:35 PM | Hide replies
India should strongly claim Karakoram Region in International forum. Built strong force to reclaim Karakoram areas. As well as give Nepal strong signal not to be Pro-China.
by Kalyan Deb (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:16 PM | Hide replies
There is absolutely no future in Sino-Indian talks. Remember Nehru era! Leave the Chings alo ne but only guarding against their doing any harm. Wait patiently till they fall away on their own, like it happened to each and every aspirant for global domination.
Chinchus are dangerous than Amricuns
by PETERSON (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:54 PM | Hide replies
China will occupy Philippines,Taiwan,Vietnam,Malaysia,Australian lands in future as it is expanding it's wings as these countries have less potential army and their capacity.
Re: Chinchus are dangerous than Amricuns
by Syz (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:56 PM
And will give another bash to India like 1962.
by Syz (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:54 PM | Hide replies
Because of Indian foreign policy every neighboring country is against India, even country like Bangladesh. It should be noted that India was the first country to openly acknowledge China as a nation. India was also the first country to openly acknowledge Bangladesh. Now both of them are against India. Why did it happen? Think about it; the answer is in India's foreign policy of deceit and double standards. PS: I am Indian, I am not Paki or Chinese.
by Subhash Deshmukh (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:13 PM
It is difficult to understand your views. Indian foreign policy may be wrong but what is deceit and double standard? On the other hand Chana has awfully deceived India in 1962 when our leaders were propogating India Chana brotherhood. About Bangladesh it is less said the better. The Indin people have been mute spectators to the influx of Bangladeshis in every part of India and still you claim it to be deceit policy on the part of India?
Re: Re: Truth
by Syz (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 08:37 PM
No. You are not correct to say that China deceived India in 1962. If you read the incidents correctly, China wanted some parts of Arunachal Pradesh back to them. It is a fact that those areas were under Chinese rule before British came. British took those areas under greater India. When British left India insisted those parts to remain in India. That was the major issue in 1962 which caused the war.
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Nov 29, 2011 09:41 AM
I think you are wrong there.China is claiming Arunachal since it is considering it as as southern Tibet.When Tibet itself is not a part of China and is brutally occupied where is the question of it claiming Arunachal?
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by Abhik RayChaudhury (View MyPage) on Nov 29, 2011 12:03 AM
China claimed NEFA (now Arunachal) and also Aksai Chin in the western sector. In 1962 they advanced in both areas. However, while they kept Aksai Chin (a paert of China by all practical means), did not do the same for NEFA. They withdrew completely to their pre-war position.
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Nov 29, 2011 09:44 AM
Both NEFA and Aksai Chin are not parts of China.
Actual China = Han China = (Present day China)-(Tibet Xinjiang Inner Mongolia Manchuria Aksai Chin)
by prem k (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 11:42 PM
If you are not a paki or chinese and really an indian, you might also know that India's relations with Bangladesh have been one of the most cordial in the past few years. Dont forget the Bangladesh and Bhutan have been instrumental in reducing militancy in India's north east by handing over leaders of terrorist organizations like ULFA.
In Bangladesh, there are two political parties and one is quite close to India and other one to Pakistan - so even though she does not intend to spoil relations with India, the pakistan factor comes into play. Relations with Nepal are normal, except with their maoists. Relations with SL are cold because they see more value in nurturing relation with bigger power China and its smaller partner pakistan. But it is not enimical for sure.
And that leaves us with two of our historical enemies. But then almost every country in Asia has an issue with its neighbor. Look at pakistan and iran. They call themselves islamic brothers and so on, but their relations is not one of the most cosy. Look at pak-afghanistan relation. Look at China's relation with each and every one of its neighbor - south korea, japan, India, ... Look malaysia-singapore relations.
So to summarize, if you are really not a paki, as you claim, read a little bit before making wild comments
by om shanti (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:52 PM | Hide replies
Un-necessarily we spoil relation with our neighbour because of a third person. For China ,Dalai Lama is same as Dawood Ibrahim for India ..anti-national ! We are sheltering Dalai,Pakistan is sheltering Dawood.We are same as Pakistan.
by Nivit Yadav (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:18 PM
What a bullshit interpretation? How come Dalai Lama and Dawood are in same category? Have you gone mad? Is Dalai Lama waging a arm struggle against China? Is India policy on Dalai lama? Please read history. We cannot let China dictate terms with us.
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by om shanti (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:22 PM
Why are you jumping like Pooja Missra ? Understand my message.How you can think it is my interpretation ?
I said that for China,Dalai Lama is anti-national just how for India Dawood Ibrahim is anti-national.Please prove that my statement is wrong.
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:31 PM
Dawood Ibrahim being an Indian has conspired against his country at the behest of an enemy nation.
Whereas Dalai Lama who was not a Chinese and whose country was brutally occupied by Chinese is trying to free his country from the clutches of a monster(though unsuccessfully or wrong approach).
Thats how Dawood is anti-national and Dalai lama is not.
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by om shanti (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:43 PM
That is Indian view
I am telling for China,Dalai Lama is anti-national.
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by Hari Narasimhan (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 01:55 PM
It is not Indian view sir, rather it is Tibetan view
Dalai Lama is NOT anti-national.He would have been anti-national had he sided with China against Tibet
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by om shanti (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 02:06 PM
Please tell me one thing sir.
Dalai Lama fled China in 1959.A passport needs to be renewed every 10 years.
So,which Passport Dalai uses to travel ?
If Chinese passport,then he is anti-national.
If Indian passport,then he is an Indian citizen and he should shut his mouth on Tibet.He is not a tibetan any more once he uses Indian passport
by PETERSON (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:56 PM
You are exactly right .In future China will shelter Maoist who are wanted in many cases.Let us not support Dalai Lama
Chinese Aggresion !
by Ananya Gupta (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:51 PM | Hide replies
Wrong economic policy worldwide has created this monster who is now threatning to take over the whole world's production.
Today everybody is running to the Chinese premier for funds and it bears ill for India having such a powerful neighbour !
by anuj desai (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:48 PM | Hide replies
is the real bone of contention. Giving him political asylum was a major mistake of our's
We wouldn't have issues if China is democratic nation
by srinivas satyanarayan (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:41 PM | Hide replies
they are communist, that's the problem. being communist they show no emotions and they are like robots
USA & India Vs Pak & China
by Allinone (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:37 PM | Hide replies
Now, the threat is bigger for India bcoz USA has become anti-Pak whereas China is showing extra support to Pak. India is becoming more friendly with the US but considering the border situation, this Pak-China combo is really dangerous for us
Must give a clear signal
by VB S (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:35 PM | Hide replies
India must give China a clear signal on value based policies and stand strong. China understand only a strong language and nothing else. Dilly dolly must be avoided
by Syz (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:18 PM | Hide replies
I don't understand one point. India says that the government doesn't allow Dalai Lama to be involved in political activities on the soil of India. However, the presence of him in India itself is a political event. Why did India give asylum to Dalai Lama? Was that because of religious reason or because India was against the Chinese aggression in Tibet? Why there is double standard from India? In my opinion, India doesn't get anything out of presence of Dalai Lama in India. On the other hand, there is much more to gain from China-India relation. He should be sent back to Tibet or other neutral country like Switzerland.
Re: Dalai Lama
by santosh (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:34 PM
My dear friend never believe chinese they r not worthy. Dalai Lama is a spiritual leader and let him be in India , don't behave like coward .. Be strong it's not 1962 it's 2011 ..
Re: Re: Dalai Lama
by Syz (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:38 PM
My point is what India is gaining from his presence?
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by Brijesh Kalleri (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:48 PM
If china tries to help Pakies too much in Kashmir and other regions we should openly support Tibet and then Dalai Lama's support will be crucial
Re: Re: Re: Re: Dalai Lama
by Syz (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:50 PM
Dalai Lama's support? He doesn't even have a political party. He has nothing to support. He is a burden on India. The truth is truth, however bitter it may sound.
by Ravi (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:29 PM | Hide replies
China has strengthened its millatary bases accross whole Indian boarder whereas India is several years behind in thay manner. India has two big headacs China and Pakies.
by Kirtish chakrabartty (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:20 PM | Hide replies
China already invaded India. Most of the New Power Plant Equipment and machineries are from China. Electronic markets , Toy markets and many other Indian markets are flooded with Chinese junks. Their export to India is billions of US$ . If Govt cannot stop this or cub it with heavy import duty one day ( may be not very far )we will be slaves to Chinese Dragon . So it is not only the border dispute , or stapled Visa for travellers to China or diverting River Brahmaputra , we should save our economy from over run by Chinese.
by Pushkaraj Kelkar (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:15 PM | Hide replies
China is dangerous. This country is not trust worthy. They will start a war to fullfill their ambitions. China has already encircled India and has now got agood foothold in POK.
War will be imminent if we also act tough. The mistake of trusting this neighbour should not be repeated. We should now have our defence policy China centric.
India is smart enough
by somnath pawor (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:10 PM | Hide replies
India is smart enough to tackle chines over smartness.
Re: India is smart enough
by sunil mandal (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:12 PM
Govt. did a good job this time....!!!!
Keep it up. Govt of India.
strong leader ship
by Chitresh Adlekha (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:08 PM | Hide replies
china leaders are strong they are thinking and speking for their country.our national leaders are doning nothing. rahul ji is busy only in up.modi ji is only thinking of gujrat.who is thinking about country.
Re: strong leader ship
by Mr Infinity (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 12:15 PM
One should shut up when don't know about facts. India is not always about politicians. We do have strategists and they are doing good work. So for god's sake stop being cynical, stop wasting your energy in bashing politicians (as it's not going to make any difference until you vote them out.). Try to make your country with more contribution to it, instead.
On Indo-China relations
by jayaram nagarajan (View MyPage) on Nov 28, 2011 11:59 AM | Hide replies
Rather being dramatic, it is school boyish like China giving stapled visas to visitors from J&K and Arunal Pradesh