外文标题：India to give up Chumar post for Chinese withdrawal?
NEW DELHI: Although the government maintained on Monday that no concessions were offered to the Chinese to end the face off in east Ladakh, India forces appear to have agreed to the removal of bunkers built by the army in Chumar close to the line of actual control (LAC) to facilitate an agreement.
Sources in the security establishment familiar with the negotiations and the local topography told TOI that the 21-day confrontation on Ladakh’s desolate Depsang plains ended only after the Indian Army agreed to demolish bunkers it had built in the region of Chumar near the LAC.
The bunkers in question are close to what India considers its current border and are part of the proactive measures objected to by the Chinese. It’s said that only after New Delhi agreed to concede the Chinese demand to pull down these “permanent” structures, that allow Indian troops to keep an eye on the Karakoram highway, did the PLA agree to pull back and restore pre-April 15 status.
It has been claimed that India has also adopted “intrusive” tactics to counter aggressive Chinese patrolling and temporarily rolling back some measures is not a large sacrifice. It was also claimed that these bunkers were made only as “retaliation” to the Chinese intrusion. The vacation of the strategically located bunkers or “observation posts” — that keep an eye on troop movements on the Chinese side – could end India’s drill of daily border patrols to the “disputed” area, highly-placed sources said.
Indian troops were patrolling the motorable stretch from the regular Chumar post to the bunkers and manning them through the day. The Chinese troops, which surprised India by setting up a tented post some 19 kms into what India perceives as its side of the LAC, first flagged concerns over the bunkers in Chumar at the second flag meeting on April 21. Since then, this strategic observation post had emerged as a bone of contention.
China, already miffed with India’s re-activation of advanced landing grounds at Daulat Beg Oldie, Fukche and Nyoma and construction of other infrastructure along the LAC over the last four-five years, was uncomfortable with Indians being able to peep at the movement on the highway. The Chinese, in fact, had frequently tried to “immobilize” the surveillance cameras positioned at the Chumar post by cutting wires.
过去四五年，印度重启斗拉特别奥里地(Daulat Beg Oldie)、富克彻(Fukche)、诺玛(Nyoma)等地的先进着陆场地以及在实控线沿线修建其他基础设施的行为已经令中国生气。中国对印度人能够窥视公路上的活动感到不舒服。实际上，中国人经常试图通过切断电线来使安装在楚玛尔哨所的监控摄像机“失灵”。
According to sources in the security establishment, at the April 21 flag meeting, the Chinese demanded the observation post at Chumar – which India insisted was only a resting place for patrolling troops as icy winds are a regular phenomenon – be immediately dismantled.
Even at the time, the Army did not completely rule this out as a measure that could lead to the Chinese troops withdrawing from Raki Nala. But the Chinese refusal to make a firm commitment about pulling their tents in return for demolition of the bunkers was not acceptable to the Indian side.
At the third flag meeting too, the same issue was raised, and the Chinese continued to be evasive. They said only after Indian troops had dismantled the border fortifications in Chumar and pulled back their own troops from the faceoff point at Raki Nala, would it “mull the next step”.
As the standoff entered its twentieth day on Saturday, the Chinese reiterated the demand for demolition of the Indian Army bunkers at a meeting between the local commanders. It was only after this was approved by the highest level on Sunday morning, with the Chinese agreeing to a reciprocal pull back, the Army sealed the “deal” – something which South Block mandarins stoutly denied.
Ahmed Munshi (india )
Anyone who votes for congress next year should be called a traitor and be stoned!!
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Not India but Khangress sold Chumar post for Chinese withdrawal.
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All this happens b’coz One GODMOTHER rules billion G@@NDUS !!!
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So far we have been thinking that PAK & CHINA are real enemies of India.. But the real enemy is within India. Its name is CONGRESS!!
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INDIAN (KHAIRACHATER (KASMAR–BOKARO–JHARKHAND))
TODAY WE GAVE CHUMAR, TOMORROW ARUNACHAL PRADESH TO CHINESE, THEN KASMIR TO PAKISTAN AND ASSAM TO BANGLADESH????? DO WE ELECTED YOU TO DO THESE JOBS? SHAME ON CENTRAL GOVERNMENT AND SHAME ON US THAT WE ELECTED THESE PEOPLE. I AM REALLY HURT.
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Bala Srinivasan (s)
If it is true that INDIA gave up its bunkers on its side at CHUMAR to APPEASE CHINA for their withdraw from indian territory then UPAIII is a NON STARTER.This news will go VIRAL all ACROSS INDIA that UPAIII under MMS gave in to CHINESE DEMAND&the younger INDIA will be ASHAMED TO VOTE THE STUPID CONGRESS IN for SURE.
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Jai NARENDRA MODI !!!
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One more lie of this impotent congi and its paralysed foreign policy exposed… They said no agreement or compromise… This buffoon Khurshid still have his face to show to this nation..??
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hahahaha, I knew that. There is no way China will quietly leave just because they are scared of india.. This is called surrender without fighting a war.
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Satluj Singh (Jalandhar)
I want to be confident that my country is ruled by my own strong leaders and not by a reject Italian waitress. There is no shame greater than this for all of us. Please end this shame next year.
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The best way to deal with rogue dragon China is: We should stop doing business with China… Stop buying anything ” MADE in China “.
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Shame on Indians …..Cong has started selling iIndian land to China like it did during Nehru days without mobilizing air force
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one more time we are proving our incompetence to the world. Why not, after all we like to be slaves of outsiders all the time….then British, now Italians, Shame,,,
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Pakistan surrendered in Bangla Desh after a good fight, india surrendered to the Chinese on Laddakh border by downing their pants w/o a fight!
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Its now the Chinese after the Mughals & British that rules India telling what to do & not to do within our territory. What’s the point then posting the Army in the northern borders when we take orders from CHINA and waste billions of rupees……
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Thank God, Chinese demanded pull out from Chumar observations posts and remove bunkers therein. Had they demanded complete withdrawal of Indian forces from entire the Himalayan region, it would have done so. NONE of our neighbors respects us and they see us as a coward nation which can be bullied even by Maldives..
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Parisara Datta (Amsterdam, Netherlands)
India is like a dog…the more you kick it.. the more it loves u.
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Right Wing Nationalist (Sydney)
Congress has lost complete control of the borders of India. They are traitors to the country. Every UPA politician must be executed for treason
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shailendra carpenter (Americas)
We vacate our own land and we call it a victory. How pathetic our government and our army is. I am ashamed of being an Indian today. We must protest Salman Khurshids visit to China and also we must not let the Chinese premier visit India.
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Congress has never had the spine to stand up to China. They are willing to sell the country for a bit of money, as long as they are in power. Shame on you, Congress.
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Wah congress! Wah! You’ve done in 2 weeks what Pakistan couldn’t do in 70 years. You’ve bought india to its knees.
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this is shocking – total abject surrender to chinese – betrayel. to nation – thats all i can say
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Today its chumar post. In a few decades we will see arunachal pradesh assam meghalaya and a huge part of kashmir go to them. Dear god please save my nation.
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when nehru gave indian land to china, he said in parliament not to worry it is just a waste dry land… congress still in that mood and negligence only even after some many years… guys do you want such govt… please dont vote them… it is a shame our politician gave our land, it is also a great shame if we vote them again in 2014…
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brahmin44 THEMAN (U.S.A.)
Have Majority rule the country. NO Minorities in key positions.
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Old politicians do not know how to deal with an assertive Chinese military. They feel the need to appease. India should learn from the Americans. They tend to have a former soldier or military person as Defence Secretary. India needs to do the same….
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saleem (Singapore )
Bloody salmaan khursit Again sold the nation
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Can we really wait till 2014? Or we need a revolt to throw this govt out? With a new scam every week, we can’t afford to have this govt till 2014. Now they are lying even on matters of national security.
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SLD (NEW DELHI)
It may be note that Chumar Post is in Indian territory. Chinese had intruded into 19 Kms into India. To agree them to leave our territory, we had to give up and dismantle fortifications in our territory. This is insulting to India. It seems sooner or later, we have to be prepared for a show down with China to live with dignity peace.
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This is congress rule fooling people one side it is boosting we have solved the problem but secretly surrendered some areas to china this is how Indian people are fooled in all issues by congress
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We The People of a demand one more thing. THE PM MUST RESIGN THE FOREIGN MINISTER MUST RESIGN. THE HOME MINISTER MUST RESIGN THE DEFENCE MINISTER MUST RESIGN. TODAY NOT 2014
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chennai predator (ladakh)
Indian Army should not bow to congress cowards and traitors of India.
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