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印巴等国网友评论:中印若开战,印军或摧毁青藏铁路(1)

2013-10-06 13:49 90个评论 字号:

三泰虎博客10月6日译文,加拿大《汉和防务评论》主编平可夫称,如果中印领土争端升级为全面战争青藏铁路有可能成为印度空军Su-33MKI 战机的目标。报告称,虽然中国军力比印度强大,然而在边境争端中,PLA有几个弱点。中国在该地区只有两个主要空军基地——贡嘎和日喀则——由于它们靠得非常近,印度空军能够轻易在短时间内消灭中国机队。PLA西藏驻军的另一个弱点是过于依赖青藏铁路提供补给。一旦这条铁路被切断,PLA将很难找到另一条新的供应线。

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com
外文标题:Breaking: India could take out Qinghai-Tibet Railway to cripple PLA
外文地址:http://www.defence.pk/forums/chinese-defence/280863-breaking-india-could-take-out-qinghai-tibet-railway-cripple-pla.html

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The Qinghai-Tibet Railway — which runs between Xining in western China’s Qinghai province and Lhasa in Tibet — could become a potential target for the Su-33MKI fighters of the Indian Air Force if a territorial dispute between China and India escalates into a full-scale war, according to the Kanwa Defense Review operated by Pinkov also known as Andrei Chang, a Canada-based journalist specializing in military issues.

加拿大《汉和防务评论》主编、军事问题专家平可夫称,如果中印领土争端升级为全面战争,连接青海西宁和西藏拉萨的青藏铁路有可能成为印度空军Su-33MKI 战机的目标。

Earlier this year, Beijing and New Delhi agreed to withdraw their respective forces from the disputed area of Daulat Beg Oldie in the Ladakh border region between the two countries. However, tensions remain as an official border was never drawn following a conflict in 1962.

今年早些时候,北京和新德里就从存争议的拉达克边境地区北奥特里地撤离各自部队达成了一致,然而,由于1962年中印冲突以来两国从未划定正式边界,紧张局势仍在持续。

Even though China’s military is more powerful than India’s, the People’s Liberation Army has several weaknesses near the contested border, the report said. China only has two main air force bases in the region — Gongga and Shigatse — and since they are very close to each other, the Indian Air Force could easily neutralize the Chinese fleet there in a short period of time. As for the other four air force bases in Tibet, none of them are able to accommodate advanced PLA fighters.

报告称,虽然中国军力比印度强大,然而在边境争端中,PLA有几个弱点。中国在该地区只有两个主要空军基地——贡嘎和日喀则——由于它们靠得非常近,印度空军能够轻易在短时间内消灭中国机队。至于西藏境内的另外4个空军基地,它们中没有一个能够容纳PLA的先进战机。

According to the Kanwa Defense Review, China’s second weakness is that the PLA units in Tibet rely too much on the Qinghai-Tibet Railway for supplies. Once the railway is cut off, it would be extremely difficult for the PLA to find a new supply line. There are 260 bridges and two tunnels within Tibet and India’s Mirage 2000 and Su-33MKI fighters would able to attack most of them with precision guided munitions.

《汉和防务评论》的报告称,PLA西藏驻军的另一个弱点是过于依赖青藏铁路提供补给。一旦这条铁路被切断,PLA将很难找到另一条新的供应线。青藏铁路在西藏境内有260座桥梁和2座隧道,印度的幻影2000和Su-33MKI战机能够用精确制导武器摧毁大多数目标。

以下是巴基斯坦防卫论坛读者的跟帖:

译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/india-could-take-out-railway.html

notorious_eagle(巴基斯坦)
IAF operates SU30MKI, not SU33MKI.

印度空军装备的是SU30MKI,而非SU33MKI

Assault Rifle(印度)
China Media after all.

But Kanwa Defense Review looks credible as even Xinhua the official China Government News agency reports their analyses.

毕竟是中国媒体。

不过《汉和防务评论》看起来可信,就连官方的新华网也报道他们的分析。

wanglaokan(中国)
Those MKI will be shot down before they get there, IAF is outnumbered by PLAAF in quantity and quanlity. This thread is a nonsense crap.

Su-MKI战机还没飞到就会被击落。无论是数量还是质量,印度空军都输给PLA空军。本帖就是在扯谈。

onionkiller(印度)
u should read article again. there is no number game.

再看下文章,并没有所谓的数字游戏,数量并不重要。

POPS(印度)
Bull crap article written by a

狗屁文章

OrionHunter(印度)

Firstly, the Indian Air Force does not possess the so called SU-33MKI fighters!

Secondly, this news is as old as the Himalayas.

Thirdly, there is no way any country in the world within geographical limits, that can stop interdiction of their country’s assets.

Fourthly, it is as clear as day that all the infrastructure built by the Chinese in Tibet for movement of their ground forces are legitimate targets and part of the Indian Air Force’s battle plans.

Fifthly, the Indian Air Force is not an exhibition piece to be displayed only during air shows! They have a task to perform during war.

1、印度空军并没有所谓的SU-33MKI战机;

2、新闻和喜马拉雅山一样古老;

4、很明显,中国在西藏境内为地面部队调动而修建的所有基础设施都是印度空军的合法目标和战斗计划的一部分;

5、印度空军并非只是用来在航空展上展示的!他们在战时必须执行作战任务。

walle(中国)
If India decides to bomb the Qinghai Tibet railway, PLA will have a reason to shell New Dehli 24/7 seeing China already having to destroy so much outdated ordnances.

如果印度决定轰炸青藏铁路,PLA就有理由7Χ24小时轰炸新德里,中国正好有许多过时的军火有待销毁。

sovcomflot(印度)
I don’t think there is threat from PLAAF in tibet.The main threat is from Chinese airborne divisions and its conventional ballistic missile force and the ADM network of China

我认为印度并未面临来自PLA空军的威胁。其实,主要威胁来自中国空降师、常规弹道导弹以及防空导弹网络。

Srinivas(印度)
Brahmos can take out the supply lines and railways of Chinese. With the increase of range it can strike deep into the enemy territory. Tibet is difficult to hold in case of invasion for chinese since supply lines has to pass through a tough terrain.

布拉莫斯导弹可以摧毁中国的铁路供给线。随着射程的增加,布拉莫斯可以深入袭击敌人领土。对中国人来说,一旦遭入侵,西藏将难以守住,毕竟他们的补给线必须经过恶劣地形。

Oscar(巴基斯坦)
Restating the Obvious. Unless the IAF is run by novices(which they arent), they will look to attack the infrastructure and logistic lines of the PLA from the get go as part of their war effort. Now if they are going to get through or not depends on the target’s vulnerability in terms of its structure, its defences and approach.

So if the whole line has one Key bridge then chances are that even with a tough SAM and AAA coverage along with interceptors there may one or weapons that get through and take it out. But if there are redundant lines along this particular railway with three or more critical crossings.. then the IAF may succeed in reducing the flow but not stopping it. It may also take prohibitive losses depending upon the defence that the PLA puts up.

除非印度空军由新手指挥(事实并非如此),否则他们不会一开始就袭击PLA的基础设施和后勤补给线。

如果整条铁路线有一座关键的桥梁,那么一枚导弹就能把它摧毁。如果铁路沿线还有其他支线,关键的交叉口不下三个,那么印度空军也许能成功拖延补给速度,但难以切断。此外,取决于PLA的防空是否强大,印度空军也许会遭受不同程度的损失。

Bhai Zakir(印度)
You need to remember IAF will be having air launched super sonic Brahmos missile with 300 kms range.

你必须记住,印度空军将拥有射程300公里的空射超音速布拉莫斯导弹。

GR!FF!N(印度)
actually,we’ll rely more on Jaguars than Su-30 MKI for this kind of ops..remember,Jaguar Deep Penetration Ground Attack jet is exactly built for this kind of missions..

其实,相比Su-30 MKI,我们更依赖美洲虎战机来执行此类任务。

记住,美洲虎深入渗透地面攻击机是专门为执行此类任务而设计的……

third eye(印度)
The silliest thing anyone could do is to employ valuable assets to strike a fixed target – something that missiles can do.

Wonder where the author has picked up his information from.

最愚蠢的事情莫过于动用有价值的资产来袭击固定目标——这种任务可以用导弹代劳。

不知道作者是从哪里获得信息的。

rockstar08(巴基斯坦)
sooner or later , this could happen , but best is to avoid war !

这个迟早会发生的,不过最好避免战争!

GR!FF!N(印度)
actually Qinghai-Tibet Railway isn’t far from Indian border..though IAF needs to perform deep penetration attack for this job and should have to cripple it around Qinghai province.as for @sovcomflot ‘s airborne forces,China lacks that kind of strategic lift capability to quite some extent.they’re making new aircraft Y-20,but it’ll take some time before induction into forces..in the meantime,they’re ordering more and more used Il-76.and for helo airborne operation,helos aren’t quite suitable for that region.PLAAF uses Mi-17,which is quite poor performer in high altitude operations.IAF is itself victim of that.thats why IAF chose Helos which can operate comfortably in high altitude areas,like Siachen..but PLAAF lacks these kind of helos.

其实,青藏铁路离印度边界不远,不过印度空军不得不在青海省周围将其瘫痪,为此必须执行深层渗透袭击。至于中国的空降部队,中国目前尚缺乏战略投送能力。他们在生产新的运-20飞机,不过离服役还有一段时间。期间,他们不断订购越来越多的二手伊尔-76运输机。PLA空军装备有非常适合高原作战的米-17直升机。

印度空军也面临类似问题,所以会选择适合锡亚琴等高原地区作战的直升机。

wakapdf(巴基斯坦)
Stupid Indians! China will beat you into submission before your planes can even take off. You talk about two-front war. How about two-front air war. We have kicked your crap many times. This time we will do it alongside our Chinese brothers. India should learn to behave before we bring the stick!!!

愚蠢的印度人,你们的战机还未起飞,中国就会把你们打趴。你们谈论两线作战,要不然打两线空战怎么样。我们已经多次教训你们了。这次我们将和中国兄弟一起。在我们挥舞大棒之前,印度最好学乖点!

vK_man(印度)
1948 and 1971 were indian victories. 1965 was stalemate. 1962 was defeat . 1967 chola incident was victory but only because china feared ussr.

1948年和1971年的两次印巴战争是印度获胜,1965年那次是僵局,1962年中印战争是失败,Chola事件是获胜,不过唯一获胜的原因是中国害怕苏联。

(三泰虎注:“Chola事件”是1967年发生在锡金的中印小冲突)

GR!FF!N(印度)
nope buddy..thats because we had superior observation post and means to fire arty more accurately..it has nothing to do with USSR..and 1965 is a stale mate???War started by capturing Akhnoor by PA,war ended by IA almost capturing Lahore..

不对,获胜的原因是我们观察哨所位置更好,能够更精准地进行射击,跟苏联没有任何关系。1965年印巴战争是僵局?战争以巴基斯坦军队夺取阿克诺奥尔开始,以印度军队几乎拿下拉合尔结束…….

vK_man(印度)
Believe me ,china could have provoked another war with India ,but it was fear of Russian invasion that kept them off. There were already a lot of tensions due to sino-soviet split which culminated in the 1969 sino-soviet war skirmishes which was crushing defeat for China and nearly led to russian nuclear attack on china had Mao and CCP not backed down. In 1971 USA and China had nearly intervened in India but due to Russia threatening nuclear war both backed down.

There is a good book sword of the empire by maxim kalashnikov which has details about the events of sino-soviet split.

On 1965 ,there are differences of opinions of historians. Thats why I stated 1965 as stalemate.

相信我,要不是出于畏惧苏联干涉,中国也许挑起了另一场对印战争。中苏反目导致局势紧张,并在1969年中苏冲突中达到顶点,中国在这场冲突中遭受惨败。要不是毛让步,苏联差点就要对中国实施核打击。

1971年,美国和中国差点干涉印度,由于苏联威胁核战,两国才让步。

历史学家对1965年的那场战争的看法各异,所以我会称之为僵局。

GR!FF!N(印度)
there was no proof of what you’re saying..fact is that both sides never wanted to escalate to a full blown war.

你说的毫无根据….事实是双方都不想升级为全面战争。

Armstrong(巴基斯坦)
As if China won’t retaliate & that too at a disproportionately larger level ?

说得好像中国不会采取更大规模的报复一样?

SUPARCO(巴基斯坦)
In a territorial war between China and India, would Russia and the United States dare supply armaments to India considering China is far the largest trading partner of Russia and the United States?

考虑到相比印度,中国是俄罗斯和美国体量大得多的贸易伙伴。为此,在中印领土战争中,俄罗斯和美国是否胆敢向印度提供武器?



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